| #391 - Posted 10 June 2008, 11:07 AM | |
Location: Haiti Join date: December 2007 Member #: 160 Posts: 711 | RE: How is living in Haiti? Hispanolo Great damn post body..Damn, I dont think you left me with anything more to add but the class issue when dealing with creole. As I said I never use tanpri because it sounds like one is begging and although it is use as "please" I dont think you'll here middle class haitians and up using tanpri for please. Creole is a beautiful language and as I said the mother tongue of all haitians from any class or colour. Now the problem I have is the way you write creole which is the perfect and officially the correct way but I refuse to write like that because I don't speak like that. I guess these are some of the issues due to the nuns beating my behind for speaking creole in school and made it seem almost that our language was incorrect. Thus, I've grown up speaking a french style creole "kreyol francisé" where I actually throw french words in the mix which isn't done on purpose. I agree that kreyol would be implemented in one sentence structure but I doubt it will happen due to class diference. Besides, I am all for creole but to say it as the only official language..I am against it since I consider french my mother tongue too. Again this will never happen in haiti although I see your just but it isn't going to fly with francophone haitians. I think it is fine the way it is..Two official languages in haiti "kreyol & french". I am for a campaign of teaching french in schools in haiti along with kreyol but getting rid of french ain't happening well at least not in my household. These are many problems we face socially in haiti that we need to find a middle point. Looking forward to your opinion..monsieur.. |
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| #392 - Posted 10 June 2008, 1:25 PM | |
Location: Dominican Republic Join date: June 2008 Member #: 873 Posts: 54 | RE: How is living in Haiti? Quote: ny4life previously said: This for all the Haiti posters on the Dominican Today site. Please describe condiitons for us in Haiti. How is it day to day. As many Dominicans have never been to Haiti and don't consider Haiti a preferential place to visit due to all the negative publicity. I ask our Haitian brothers to bring us some insight to the Haitian culture that most Dominicans are not aware of. How is living in Haiti? Culture? Traditions? People? Historical monuments? Picture? Enlighten us. Ok! I think I can answer this question, from what I have seen living in Haiti is just like living in the DR just much more expensive. |
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| #393 - Posted 10 June 2008, 4:53 PM | |
Location: Haiti Join date: January 2008 Member #: 272 Posts: 365 | RE: How is living in Haiti? Quote: PeRod previously said: HAYkickyouintheSHIN, just a little class of Dominican geography: Bani is in the South, not in the North, where the Cibao region is. You are not going to find a cibaeño that was born in Bani. Oops! But I still meant that the women of the Cibao are hot if I am granted the right to say so! Thnx for the correction anyway PeRod. |
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| #394 - Posted 10 June 2008, 4:56 PM | |
Location: Haiti Join date: January 2008 Member #: 272 Posts: 365 | RE: How is living in Haiti? The problem with language is Haiti is the fact that a small percentage actually read, write, and speak French. If everyone or at least the great majority knew French as well as creole then trust me I don't think there'd be a lingo problem at all or class problem for that matter. One would simply speak in whatever lingo he/she preferred. |
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| #395 - Posted 10 June 2008, 11:19 PM | |
Location: United States, Smyrna, GA Join date: February 2008 Member #: 374 Posts: 522 | RE: How is living in Haiti? Quote: cibaeño75 previously said: "Kalawo is when they are upset at you in a way is "Damn it" " Sounds to me like Kalawo=carajo First post of yours that I truly enjoyed reading hispalano... Lol ha hah thanks... Look most of my posts (although not all) as you have uncovered are meant to incite conversations good or bad even from guys like Arcatype and Franco because I know by talking about most of the things we have deem to be controversial are still a form of communication and off the chest words that are suppose to come out, because when all the hatred is exposed and out, what do you have... just us. Wilgeens Rosenberg "That Dominican-Haitian-Jewish Kid" HispanolanoYoSoy Wilgeens.Rosenberg@gmail.com |
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| #396 - Posted 10 June 2008, 11:19 PM | |
Location: United States, Smyrna, GA Join date: February 2008 Member #: 374 Posts: 522 | RE: How is living in Haiti? Quote: HAYkickyouintheSHIN previously said: The problem with language is Haiti is the fact that a small percentage actually read, write, and speak French. If everyone or at least the great majority knew French as well as creole then trust me I don't think there'd be a lingo problem at all or class problem for that matter. One would simply speak in whatever lingo he/she preferred. I second that emotion. Wilgeens Rosenberg "That Dominican-Haitian-Jewish Kid" HispanolanoYoSoy Wilgeens.Rosenberg@gmail.com |
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| #397 - Posted 10 June 2008, 11:27 PM | |
Location: United States, Smyrna, GA Join date: February 2008 Member #: 374 Posts: 522 | RE: How is living in Haiti? Quote: JabaoHaitian previously said: Hispanolo Great damn post body..Damn, I dont think you left me with anything more to add but the class issue when dealing with creole. As I said I never use tanpri because it sounds like one is begging and although it is use as "please" I dont think you'll here middle class haitians and up using tanpri for please. Creole is a beautiful language and as I said the mother tongue of all haitians from any class or colour. Now the problem I have is the way you write creole which is the perfect and officially the correct way but I refuse to write like that because I don't speak like that. I guess these are some of the issues due to the nuns beating my behind for speaking creole in school and made it seem almost that our language was incorrect. Thus, I've grown up speaking a french style creole "kreyol francisé" where I actually throw french words in the mix which isn't done on purpose. I agree that kreyol would be implemented in one sentence structure but I doubt it will happen due to class diference. Besides, I am all for creole but to say it as the only official language..I am against it since I consider french my mother tongue too. Again this will never happen in haiti although I see your just but it isn't going to fly with francophone haitians. I think it is fine the way it is..Two official languages in haiti "kreyol & french". I am for a campaign of teaching french in schools in haiti along with kreyol but getting rid of french ain't happening well at least not in my household. These are many problems we face socially in haiti that we need to find a middle point. Looking forward to your opinion..monsieur.. Well I went to two schools in Haiti called Petite Seminaire College St Martial and College Bird before I came to the USA when I was 8 years old, and I understand exactly all too well what you are talking about since as much as they try to get us to be all formal into talking French, we were adamant at insisting on Speaking Creole and I mean the hard core slanged Kreyol with betiz in it. I was born left hanged and from being left hanged to having been able to use both hands now only I am right handed simply because the priest s and the teachers I had forbid any kid to write with the left hand stating that it was a devilish thing to do so. I mean, I am not saying they should banish French, but it should be the other way around where they have French being the first and Creole second, when it should be Creole first then French second as it would empower the Country as a whole socially. Wilgeens Rosenberg "That Dominican-Haitian-Jewish Kid" HispanolanoYoSoy Wilgeens.Rosenberg@gmail.com |
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| #398 - Posted 11 June 2008, 9:46 AM | |
Location: Haiti Join date: December 2007 Member #: 160 Posts: 711 | RE: How is living in Haiti? Jesus aka Hispaniola, The schools in haiti are what's keeping haitians divided linguistically and socially. Those days are still vivid in my mind and I sweat when I see nuns..lol.. Dude, that is one thing they couldn't get out of me..I was destined to be left handed.so you can imagine how many yuppings I got. Hey in the USA that is called "child abuse". Anyway, it is obvious creole is the dominant language of haiti and we need to embrace it and also teach those that can't speak creole french not for showing face but as another form of communication. We have alot of issues that I won't get into here but if we or the government provided qualified teachers and up to date materials in the school system it would help. Going to private school in haiti is like living in another world from the one that your breath and live in everyday. |
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| #399 - Posted 11 June 2008, 10:58 AM | |
Location: United States, New York, NY Join date: December 2007 Member #: 16 Posts: 860 | RE: How is living in Haiti? Quote: JabaoHaitian previously said: Jesus aka Hispaniola, The schools in haiti are what's keeping haitians divided linguistically and socially. Those days are still vivid in my mind and I sweat when I see nuns..lol.. Dude, that is one thing they couldn't get out of me..I was destined to be left handed.so you can imagine how many yuppings I got. Hey in the USA that is called "child abuse". Anyway, it is obvious creole is the dominant language of haiti and we need to embrace it and also teach those that can't speak creole french not for showing face but as another form of communication. We have alot of issues that I won't get into here but if we or the government provided qualified teachers and up to date materials in the school system it would help. Going to private school in haiti is like living in another world from the one that your breath and live in everyday. Basically Haitian society is more fragmented than Dominican society, thus, the conditions of Haiti today. Those issues that you described above are typical "developing", "poor" or "third world" syndromes. Edited on 6/11/2008 11:09 AM by ny4life. |
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| #400 - Posted 11 June 2008, 11:06 AM | |
Location: Dominican Republic, Santo Domingo Join date: December 2007 Member #: 38 Posts: 5613 | RE: How is living in Haiti? Quote: JabaoHaitian previously said: Jesus aka Hispaniola, The schools in haiti are what's keeping haitians divided linguistically and socially. Those days are still vivid in my mind and I sweat when I see nuns..lol.. Dude, that is one thing they couldn't get out of me..I was destined to be left handed.so you can imagine how many yuppings I got. Hey in the USA that is called "child abuse". Anyway, it is obvious creole is the dominant language of haiti and we need to embrace it and also teach those that can't speak creole french not for showing face but as another form of communication. We have alot of issues that I won't get into here but if we or the government provided qualified teachers and up to date materials in the school system it would help. Going to private school in haiti is like living in another world from the one that your breath and live in everyday. The same thing is happening here with the bilingual schools (English-Spanish) to which the people belonging to the middle and upper classes are sending their children to. You'd be amazed (and mightily annoyed) by the elitism practiced by these stupid brats. "A man who strives after goodness in all his acts is sure to come to ruin, since there are so many men who are not good." Niccolo Macchiavelli - The Prince |
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