| #401 - Posted 11 June 2008, 11:33 AM | |
Location: United States, Smyrna, GA Join date: February 2008 Member #: 374 Posts: 522 | RE: How is living in Haiti? Quote: ny4life previously said: Quote: JabaoHaitian previously said: Jesus aka Hispaniola, The schools in haiti are what's keeping haitians divided linguistically and socially. Those days are still vivid in my mind and I sweat when I see nuns..lol.. Dude, that is one thing they couldn't get out of me..I was destined to be left handed.so you can imagine how many yuppings I got. Hey in the USA that is called "child abuse". Anyway, it is obvious creole is the dominant language of haiti and we need to embrace it and also teach those that can't speak creole french not for showing face but as another form of communication. We have alot of issues that I won't get into here but if we or the government provided qualified teachers and up to date materials in the school system it would help. Going to private school in haiti is like living in another world from the one that your breath and live in everyday. Basically Haitian society is more fragmented than Dominican society, thus, the conditions of Haiti today. Those issues that you described above are typical "developing", "poor" or "third world" syndromes. No, he is saying that the Elite or elitist system have managed to have a grasping hold on our Education system that the Government is rendered powerless to even control the public schools in Haiti and guess what... NY4LIFE, the same thing is happening in DR with the upper class and when you put it that way in that context as you have above you are providing leeway for guys like Arcatype and Franco to tarnish the calmness flow of this new discussion, but nonetheless, yeah... This is the plight for most under-developing third world poor countries not just Haiti. Wilgeens Rosenberg "That Dominican-Haitian-Jewish Kid" HispanolanoYoSoy Wilgeens.Rosenberg@gmail.com |
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| #402 - Posted 11 June 2008, 11:44 AM | |
Location: United States, Smyrna, GA Join date: February 2008 Member #: 374 Posts: 522 | RE: How is living in Haiti? Quote: JabaoHaitian previously said: Jesus aka Hispaniola, The schools in haiti are what's keeping haitians divided linguistically and socially. Those days are still vivid in my mind and I sweat when I see nuns..lol.. Dude, that is one thing they couldn't get out of me..I was destined to be left handed.so you can imagine how many yuppings I got. Hey in the USA that is called "child abuse". Anyway, it is obvious creole is the dominant language of haiti and we need to embrace it and also teach those that can't speak creole french not for showing face but as another form of communication. We have alot of issues that I won't get into here but if we or the government provided qualified teachers and up to date materials in the school system it would help. Going to private school in haiti is like living in another world from the one that your breath and live in everyday. Yes, I have always said that the school system in Haiti is keeping Haitians divided... as well as it instill in the kids the early signs of classicism that many tend to perceive as racism. As I keep on stressing to many people on here that Haitians are more classists then they are or will ever be racists because in Haiti even the poorest person in an argument with another poor like to downgrade the other by calling him or her "Ti Malere or Malerez" meaning "Little Poor" Yes, the priest were strict and very conservative in nature. Yes, they turned me into a right handed person now and the only thing I got in return for that was a nice hand writing that people think is a written shine from some medieval time (lol). Wilgeens Rosenberg "That Dominican-Haitian-Jewish Kid" HispanolanoYoSoy Wilgeens.Rosenberg@gmail.com |
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| #403 - Posted 11 June 2008, 12:53 PM | |
Location: Haiti Join date: December 2007 Member #: 160 Posts: 711 | RE: How is living in Haiti? Yes, they turned me into a right handed person now and the only thing I got in return for that was a nice hand writing that people think is a written shine from some medieval time (lol) Jesus hahahha..you too. dude my hand writing is flawless even though I am a left handed that was suppose to do everything backwards. Dude, haitian school system(especially the private schools) have messed up are heads big time. We learnt more about the french history and everything français even more than kids in France. That's why it is laughable when people rant that we haitians have some agenda. Dude, in Haiti we are mostly taught to despise everything that is natif natal. NY4life, I am not saying that we are more fragmented than the Dominican society. I dont know if you've done your schooling in DR at all but it ain't sweet especially if your not from the "mami y papi" crowd. Only if you guys knew that Haiti and DR share same attitudes in regards to classism. I know dominicans who feel merengue and bachata are for low lives and only listen to rock en espanol or music in english. I remember when going to NY and visited washington hgts with some dominican friends that live in DR. They were embarassed and the comments made about their compatriots living out Neuva Yol was not nice at all. So I think this classism comes on both sides without saying or knowing for sure which society is more fragmented than the other. I think that private school and privileged kids will always be better. Unfortunately we are create equal but not received in the same fashion due to economical backgrounds. I would like to see Haiti (government) give the public schools more resources and at least bring them updated without the materialistic elements which you find in private schools. There are many things that needs to be fixed. Also I know alot of haitians that went to public school have gone to excel more so than kids from private school that do have the silver spoon. Do you know how many idiots I know that graduated to just take over family business? |
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| #404 - Posted 11 June 2008, 3:09 PM | |
Location: United States, Smyrna, GA Join date: February 2008 Member #: 374 Posts: 522 | RE: How is living in Haiti? Quote: JabaoHaitian previously said: Yes, they turned me into a right handed person now and the only thing I got in return for that was a nice hand writing that people think is a written shine from some medieval time (lol) Jesus hahahha..you too. dude my hand writing is flawless even though I am a left handed that was suppose to do everything backwards. Dude, haitian school system(especially the private schools) have messed up are heads big time. We learnt more about the french history and everything français even more than kids in France. That's why it is laughable when people rant that we haitians have some agenda. Dude, in Haiti we are mostly taught to despise everything that is natif natal. NY4life, I am not saying that we are more fragmented than the Dominican society. I dont know if you've done your schooling in DR at all but it ain't sweet especially if your not from the "mami y papi" crowd. Only if you guys knew that Haiti and DR share same attitudes in regards to classism. I know dominicans who feel merengue and bachata are for low lives and only listen to rock en espanol or music in english. I remember when going to NY and visited washington hgts with some dominican friends that live in DR. They were embarassed and the comments made about their compatriots living out Neuva Yol was not nice at all. So I think this classism comes on both sides without saying or knowing for sure which society is more fragmented than the other. I think that private school and privileged kids will always be better. Unfortunately we are create equal but not received in the same fashion due to economical backgrounds. I would like to see Haiti (government) give the public schools more resources and at least bring them updated without the materialistic elements which you find in private schools. There are many things that needs to be fixed. Also I know alot of haitians that went to public school have gone to excel more so than kids from private school that do have the silver spoon. Do you know how many idiots I know that graduated to just take over family business? My points exactly, In Haiti, that is why the classicism exist and transcended to the notion of given skin color its importance by what is grown accustomed in the mind of the populace majority poor Haitians why that most Haitian people believe that mostly of light skin colors, mulattoes are rich in the Country and due to impoverished resentments. You will find the mass poor tend to have slight animosity toward people of light skin complexion in the sense that is, the lighter or close you are to looking like a white person in Haiti, the stronger the resentment, but only due to a belief that the mass poor Haitian believe that you either well Governmentally connected, part of the Elite rich or a descendent of former white masters so the skin color is a trigger attribute that could constitute to be anything from all sort of range of resentment and indeed deep rooted anger. However or nevertheless, not in any strong racist ways to say that the mass want to kill them, but only because they blame their whole source of poverty on that minority group whom they feel hold all of the Country's money and power to themselves as the mass also believe they have been oppressed by for far too long. In fact, most typical Haitians have grown to give light skin color a sense of superiority in the Country as most other societies do around the World as is highly practiced in DR given their affinity with Spain and White Foreigners which is the sense of inferiority that is called today Mental Slavery. Be it in Haiti or DR, because and since the minority group of mulattoes or verse versa however it may be in terms of dominant factors in which Country, the Elite rich has always in all definition seemingly to have had the means to afford schooling, but it is a schooling and education that those privilege kids often take for granted why simply some of them only go to school to showboat their wealth because they know in the end they will own "Daddy & Mommy's" Businesses. P.S: Now you have on both sides Dominican and Haitian average citizens who are fueling past resentments and hatred they truly know nothing about only because of what they have inherited through the vial practices of the negative education given to them by those who have always had the means to afford to see differences prevail and because they know the poor mass will undoubtedly be the receptacle to accept their divisive agendas and campaigns because of their ignorance and uneducated naivete. Wilgeens Rosenberg "That Dominican-Haitian-Jewish Kid" HispanolanoYoSoy Wilgeens.Rosenberg@gmail.com |
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| #405 - Posted 11 June 2008, 3:09 PM | |
Location: United States, Smyrna, GA Join date: February 2008 Member #: 374 Posts: 522 | RE: How is living in Haiti? Quote: JabaoHaitian previously said: Yes, they turned me into a right handed person now and the only thing I got in return for that was a nice hand writing that people think is a written shine from some medieval time (lol) Jesus hahahha..you too. dude my hand writing is flawless even though I am a left handed that was suppose to do everything backwards. Dude, haitian school system(especially the private schools) have messed up are heads big time. We learnt more about the french history and everything français even more than kids in France. That's why it is laughable when people rant that we haitians have some agenda. Dude, in Haiti we are mostly taught to despise everything that is natif natal. NY4life, I am not saying that we are more fragmented than the Dominican society. I dont know if you've done your schooling in DR at all but it ain't sweet especially if your not from the "mami y papi" crowd. Only if you guys knew that Haiti and DR share same attitudes in regards to classism. I know dominicans who feel merengue and bachata are for low lives and only listen to rock en espanol or music in english. I remember when going to NY and visited washington hgts with some dominican friends that live in DR. They were embarassed and the comments made about their compatriots living out Neuva Yol was not nice at all. So I think this classism comes on both sides without saying or knowing for sure which society is more fragmented than the other. I think that private school and privileged kids will always be better. Unfortunately we are create equal but not received in the same fashion due to economical backgrounds. I would like to see Haiti (government) give the public schools more resources and at least bring them updated without the materialistic elements which you find in private schools. There are many things that needs to be fixed. Also I know alot of haitians that went to public school have gone to excel more so than kids from private school that do have the silver spoon. Do you know how many idiots I know that graduated to just take over family business? My points exactly, In Haiti, that is why the classicism exist and transcended to the notion of given skin color its importance by what is grown accustomed in the mind of the populace majority poor Haitians why that most Haitian people believe that mostly of light skin colors, mulattoes are rich in the Country and due to impoverished resentments. You will find the mass poor tend to have slight animosity toward people of light skin complexion in the sense that is, the lighter or close you are to looking like a white person in Haiti, the stronger the resentment, but only due to a belief that the mass poor Haitian believe that you either well Governmentally connected, part of the Elite rich or a descendent of former white masters so the skin color is a trigger attribute that could constitute to be anything from all sort of range of resentment and indeed deep rooted anger. However or nevertheless, not in any strong racist ways to say that the mass want to kill them, but only because they blame their whole source of poverty on that minority group whom they feel hold all of the Country's money and power to themselves as the mass also believe they have been oppressed by for far too long. In fact, most typical Haitians have grown to give light skin color a sense of superiority in the Country as most other societies do around the World as is highly practiced in DR given their affinity with Spain and White Foreigners which is the sense of inferiority that is called today Mental Slavery. Be it in Haiti or DR, because and since the minority group of mulattoes or verse versa however it may be in terms of dominant factors in which Country, the Elite rich has always in all definition seemingly to have had the means to afford schooling, but it is a schooling and education that those privilege kids often take for granted why simply some of them only go to school to showboat their wealth because they know in the end they will own "Daddy & Mommy's" Businesses. P.S: Now you have on both sides Dominican and Haitian average citizens who are fueling past resentments and hatred they truly know nothing about only because of what they have inherited through the vial practices of the negative education given to them by those who have always had the means to afford to see differences prevail and because they know the poor mass will undoubtedly be the receptacle to accept their divisive agendas and campaigns because of their ignorance and uneducated naivete. Wilgeens Rosenberg "That Dominican-Haitian-Jewish Kid" HispanolanoYoSoy Wilgeens.Rosenberg@gmail.com |
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| #406 - Posted 21 October 2008, 9:15 PM | |
Location: Dominican Republic Join date: October 2008 Member #: 1550 Posts: 1 | RE: How is living in Haiti? dice un amigo mio que ya en haiti no hay nada que ver........sera sierto? |
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| #407 - Posted 21 October 2008, 9:29 PM | |
Location: Dominican Republic, La Union Join date: July 2008 Member #: 1028 Posts: 1284 | RE: How is living in Haiti? THE HAITI TODAY: Haiti may be one of the poorest countries in western hemisphere, but it's also home to some very wealthy communities. It's a situation that's creating a significant divide between the haves and the have-nots. Al Jazeera's Teresa Bo reports from the capital Port-Au-Prince on the huge disparity between rich and poor. Haiti today is still enduring the oppression of Imperial forces and because of the lack of social services Haiti is on the brink of yet another national disaster. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
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| #408 - Posted 22 October 2008, 2:38 PM | |
Location: Dominican Republic Join date: July 2008 Member #: 1104 Posts: 659 | Dont teach these people spanish, teach them congolese or french but not spanish. We dont want them crossing the border. You are the light of truth ARKATYPE |
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| #409 - Posted 29 October 2008, 2:38 AM | |
Location: Dominican Republic, La Union Join date: July 2008 Member #: 1028 Posts: 1284 | RE: How is living in Haiti? Quote: arkatype previously said: Dont teach these people spanish, teach them congolese or french but not spanish. We dont want them crossing the border. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
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| #410 - Posted 29 October 2008, 5:44 PM | |
Location: United States, Brooklyn Join date: December 2007 Member #: 40 Posts: 2707 | RE: How is living in Haiti? Quote: arkatype previously said: Dont teach these people spanish, teach them congolese or french but not spanish. We dont want them crossing the border. You are so right ARKA... If more haitians learn spanish... We'll have more haitians like AfroLatino telling real dominicans that they are in fact the real hispanionla and with rights to own land... This is dangerous... Then they'll just cross over and forget haity and then my grandsons will have to hear it from AfroLatino's grandson on how much dominican he is that him... It's a dark future that must be prevented. jJAJASJAJAJAJjajAJAj Its funny but is true |
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