hey, the same crap that happens in Haiti ..happens in the DR....yes...even worse in haiti

however, with WORSE CORRUPTION, POVERTY, UNEMPLOYMENT, EVERYTHING, ETC., THAN THE D.R.....THEY STILL MANAGE TO HAVE A REPRESENTATIVE CURRENCY WORTH THE SAME AS THE DR PESO....

YOU WOULD THINK IT WOULD BE WAY LESS...LIKE A 1PESO rd =1000,000gourde

so stop your babbling....about corruption

rock bottom haiti vs the DR present day....level playing field as seen by the world wide marker...currency

now..if haiti had all that the DR has....would it do better than the DR? Hell yes....

I think you've been in the jungle way too long

My thoughts exactly, Carlos. Specially when he ignores that the only thing that makes the gourde level with the peso is the fact that their inmigrant workers over here are sending them US$350 million annually by concept of remittances. Without that oxygen valve, Haiti would have reached rock bottom a long time ago. As much as it cost them to admit it, the DR is the only thing between them and utter extinction.

Jungle Monkey-At one point Haiti was greater than the Dominican Republic but they crumbled. I fear it wouldn't be any different in present times.

CARLOSFRANCO: Who cares what u THINK...this fantasy question is bad enough as it is but at least use some facts to support any debate on this topic. AND YOU'RE RIGHT IVE BEEN HERE IN THE DOMINICAN JUNGLE TOOOOO LONG!

LAUTARO: at least u used some fact...if you can provide the link where it saw that 350million figure id like to read it.....nevertheless that amount of money is NOTHING annually to account for the haitian currency to be on par with that of the DR.....its even embarrasing to say so....

one can even argue that dominicans in the US. send 2.3$BILLION US dollars from Jan-Sept..in 2008 and YES THAT DOES EFFECT DR ECONOMY AND CURRENCY...you know if you live here these values are always observed closely and any drop is front page headlines because of the national effects.

ANYWAY IM NOT TALKING ABOUT SPECIFICS...IM JUST SAYING...WHATEVER IS GOING ON...NOW....WHATEVER THOSE HAITIANS ARE DOING...NOW....COMPARED TO WHAT THE DR IS DOING...NOW....THE HAITIANS ARE ON PAR WITH THE DR (AT LEAST WITH ONE ECONOMIC INDICATOR).

MIISIICAMP0S: I agree with you 100%...i think its only time before they flush themselves down the drain...unless drastic measures are taken....but as this thread was started on a 'what if...' type discussion....we're talking about some weird alternative future....cuz in present times they're screwed.

Here's the source, jm: http://www.bancentral.gov.do/otras_noticias.asp?a=listindiario2008-01-28-1

As for the parity between the currencies being equal, that indicator mean nothing, specially when you take into account that the common dominican citizen can buy more goods on his/her country than the haitian can do on his/her, and the difference of GDP per capita for both countries being as abysmal as it is (the DR having a per capita of US$8,559 while Haiti's is US$1,291) which means that more than half of Haiti's population is actually living their life without eating a single meal for days. At most, this parity that you're so astonished for can only mean one thing: that in Haiti the concentration of income is such that only a few families are living in the most astounding luxury while the majority lives in the most abject of miseries.

Is the 21st Century for goodness sake! DR doesn't have the better half of the island and neither haitians "envy" DR's "prosperity" . Our realities are more similar than different. As a Dominican I ask you what prosperity? I have always found it interesting that Dominicans are taught in school that we became independent from Haiti, even though, we were a colony of Spain since 1492.
Re-think your history acomplejados!

Perhaps you should ask "what prosperity"? to the haitians that come here escaping the plight of their country. You should ask them: why are you coming here if we're the same sh*t? I assure you that the best that you would get will be the middle finger, and outright agression if you so much as suggest them to return to their homeland as it is right now.

LaCimarrona, here you are the acomplejada, maldita loca. There are a lot of differences between the two parts of our island and the first one is our labor as a nation. Our people have done a good part of our homework. We do not have in front of us an empty notebook as is the case in Haiti. We have a long, long way ahead but we have a long, long way back too. Yes, this is the 21st Century but in 1804 Haiti did not have a Board of Donors. In the 21st Century they are asking 3 billions dollars (3 billons) for the near future. They need that money urgently and they are asking that money without any blush. Do you know who ask money in that way? Those are the beggars.
Look at the numbers of the two countries, look at the numbers and you will see what you can find at every side of the border. For example, what about the unemployment? It is 17% in our side and it is 70% in the other side.
Are we “the poorest nation in the Western Hemisphere” too? 95% of our national wealth is in the hands of 1% of our population? Have we destroyed almost completely our natural resources? No, no and no. And we are not the same.
Many Haitians actually "envy" DR's "prosperity” and you can find people who is really suffering with that reality. And even more, some of them want to take some part of that “prosperity” at any cost.
You are the one who have to re-think absolutely everything, but first take a moment and get some information, you need it desperately.

Mi gente, yo siempre he pensado en que la prosperidad de una nación depende totalmente en la genética de la población. Seria por eso que países que son comunistas como Rusia o muchos en el Este de Europa tienen mayores estandares de vivir que países democráticos como Haití o paises en el centro u oeste de África. si ustedes se fijan no hay naciones de gente con origenes europeos que sean tercermundistas, todo lo contrario. Si se fijan, no hay ninguna nación de gente de origen puramente Africano que sean prosperas.

En fin, RD está vastamente poblada de mulatos u otra mezcla(como yo, Leo. Fernández, Josecito Hazim y seguramente tu ), hay unos pocos que son negroides puros(Johnny Ventura, David Ortíz, etc.) y otros pocos Europoides puros(Hipólito Mejía, Andrés Garcia, etc.) y esta es una razón fuerte que explica nuestra relativa prosperidad con Haití, la cual tiene 95% de negroides puros y el otro 5% de mulatos como nosotros. Y las demas naciones negras nunca tienden a prosperar. Cuando Haiti era rica habian muchos Franceses Europeos, despues de la revolucion que los negros se revelaran, eliminaran a los que no fueran negros(blancos y mulatos) que se declararon la "Republica Negra" se fué hiendo por el sanitario. Este caso lo tambien podemos verlo con Zimbabwe desde que Mugabe subió al poder y Surafrica desde que Mandela subio al poder, esas dos naciones eran grandiosas hasta esos puntos.

Todas las naciones negras que entran en una depresión nunca se salen de ese hoyo por mas tiempo que les des, Haití tiene mas de 2 siglos de ser libre y mira, solo van de mal en peor. Sin embargo, a mediados de los 1900s China, Japón, Alemania, EUA habian caído en una depresión y mira a Alemania y EUA(EUA está cayendo ahora mismo por los cuartos que los Judio$ estan haciendo a EUA gastar en esa guerra que no le conviene para nada a EUA. Aun asi, mira como estaba hace un par de anios) como se subieron, mira a Japón hoy en dia y China que se va se bien en mejor.


Si los negros en Haití, hace tiempo, se hubiesen integrado, ligado, mestizado, amulatado o como le quieras llamar, con los Franceses (como lo hicimos nosotros entre Espanioles, negros e indios) en lugar de simplemente asesinarlos, violarlos y humillarlos, esta situación en Haití no existiera hoy en dia.

Tan solo miren la frontera RD/Haiti por el amor de Dios :

http://svs.gsfc.nasa.gov/vis/a000000/a002600/a002640/haiti_still_web.jpg


Saludos.