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| #51 - Posted 1 June 2009, 12:09 PM | |
 Location: Dominican Republic, Santo Domingo Join date: December 2007 Member #: 38 Posts: 5613  | RE: Why Haiti is better than DR Quote: Manhattanite previously said: British also somewhat redeemed themselves by driving abolition, though this was not all for altruistic reasons. You're right on this one. Their main drive with abolition was to bankrupt the french, american and brazilian plantation economies. The philosophy of "if it can't be mine, it will be no one else" at its finest. "A man who strives after goodness in all his acts is sure to come to ruin, since there are so many men who are not good." Niccolo Macchiavelli - The Prince |
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| #52 - Posted 1 June 2009, 12:38 PM | |
 Location: United States Join date: February 2008 Member #: 336 Posts: 1984 | RE: Why Haiti is better than DR Quote: Lautaro previously said: Quote: Manhattanite previously said: British also somewhat redeemed themselves by driving abolition, though this was not all for altruistic reasons. You're right on this one. Their main drive with abolition was to bankrupt the french, american and brazilian plantation economies. The philosophy of "if it can't be mine, it will be no one else" at its finest. Indeed. I still give them a little bit of credit though, I know there were some genuine abolitionists movements. I'll have to pick up a history on UK and industrial revolution before I make a credible judgment. |
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| #53 - Posted 1 June 2009, 1:24 PM | |
Location: Dominican Republic, Santo Domingo Join date: December 2007 Member #: 38 Posts: 5613 | RE: Why Haiti is better than DR Quote: Manhattanite previously said: let's not only pick on the snooty Frenchmen! British attitude in the Caribbean was similar to the French. Many English colonies are just as Laut described the French, little more than traces of plantations left behind in terms of structures. Note that Jamaica within a few years after Haitian Revolution exceeded the output of Haiti at it's peak. Brits were also the champions in transporting slaves to the New World. However, perhaps because they were the main slave traders dealing with Africans, they had a better understanding of 'divide and conquer' and they never made the massive, greedy errors of France that led to the Haitian revolution. Nonetheless it is hard to read the French as anything but vicious bastards ... for another example both Brit and French islands made use of labor from India in mid-1800s, but on the French islands these peoples were driven into the (burial) ground and hence left much less of a mark than in Brit territories. British also somewhat redeemed themselves by driving abolition, though this was not all for altruistic reasons. The only reason explaining why the brits haven't been as picked on and maligned as the french, is because they have been successful in almost all of their imperialistic endeavours. Had they fared differently, humanity would be singing quite a different tune about them. MacArthur was right on his saying that in war (and one could say that in economic matters, too) there's no substitute for victory, cuz' if this were not so, there would be more hype about Napoleon's military exploits than what is common today, notwithstanding the fact of his being ignominiously defeated by the allied powers of the time. Likewise, if Haiti would have been sucessful on economic matters, this thread would not be alive. Edited on 6/1/2009 1:29 PM by Lautaro. "A man who strives after goodness in all his acts is sure to come to ruin, since there are so many men who are not good." Niccolo Macchiavelli - The Prince |
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| #54 - Posted 1 June 2009, 1:32 PM | |
Location: United States Join date: February 2008 Member #: 336 Posts: 1984 | RE: Why Haiti is better than DR Quote: Lautaro previously said: The only reason explaining why the brits haven't been as picked on and maligned as the french, is because they have been successful in almost all of their imperial endeavours. Had they fared differently, humanity would be singing quite a different tune about them. MacArthur was right on the fact that there's no substitute for victory, cuz' if this were not so, there would be more hype about Napoleon's military exploits than what is common today, notwithstanding the fact of his being ignominiously defeated by the allied powers of the time. True Laut this is one adage no one should forget ... the winners write history! Our young friend c.dragon should take note of this. Only reason I brought up the Brits was it gives additional context to perlurdom's information ... and helps point in the direction that overall Spanish Antilles colonial history is a different beast, though connected and related. |
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| #55 - Posted 12 June 2009, 8:43 PM | |
Location: United States, AC Fluke Testo Knipex Makita Join date: June 2009 Member #: 2901 Posts: 1 | RE: Why Haiti is better than DR Quote: Pepe32 previously said: Today when I took a dump ,three Haitians came out and try to take over my house .. LOL |
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| #56 - Posted 12 June 2009, 8:47 PM | |
 Location: United States, OMNIPRESENT. El Cantinero de Jarabacoa. "Aguilucho desde Chiquitito" Join date: March 2009 Member #: 2380 Posts: 5004 | RE: Why Haiti is better than DR they tried to take over your house beacuse like most normal homes you actually have a sewage system! lolololol Conocer al cojo sentao! Las Aguilas son Las Aguilas!!!!!!!! |
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| #57 - Posted 13 June 2009, 3:17 AM | |
Location: United States Join date: June 2009 Member #: 2903 Posts: 32 | RE: Why Haiti is better than DR You don't let your emotion lead you to distraction., you'll find out that Haitian are right on point. If you ever comes to your senses. |
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