PeRod previously said:

"I've been trying real hard to stay out of this type of topic… I think this forum has become obsessed with "The Haitian Issue"… Seriously! Let's talk about better things, we sound like a bunch of Haitian hatin' Nazis… I honestly feel just so tired of all the Haitian-Related topics posted daily on this forum. Let’s talk about something else, anything else for a while.... Let’s give this topic a rest."
DominicanLady.

DominicanLady, you do not understand how dangerous the Haitian problem is for us.
What do your enemies want when you are at war? They want more territory and economic concessions and that is exactly what Haitian want from us. We are at a permanent and silent war. They do not want to sing our national anthem or to salute our flag. They do not want to live with our values and our beliefs. They want to be Haitians in part of our space until it can be “their” space.
They like to say that Pedro Santana was born in Haiti but they do not say that in those times that region was part of our territory (now it is Haitian territory –they take it from us–).
In the most irresponsible way in the universal history they have destroyed their natural resources and now they want our natural resources. It is impossible for them to have in their own country something more than a political stability fastened with pins and they want part of our political system. They already have an important part of our medical services and an important part of our educational system. They already have an important share of our labor market.
I have seen people marching because of the drugs, marching because of the violence against women, marching because of the breakdown of law and order, and marching because of some other reasons, but I have never seen anybody marching against the Haitian invasion. A lot of people think that if we do so we are going to be seen like racists.
What are we going to do? This problem is getting worst on a daily basis. What are we going to do?
We have to talk about this problem over and over. If we even do not talk about this incredible problem it is going to be worst.

talia previously said:


ES verdad, Yo cosign on that PeRod, si, incluso mientras una haitiana. Its beyond race, it's about a progressive infrastructure protecting its people, culture, and existence. This gets into the economy, health care, and most likely education. No, its not racist, its important, and that is always going to be a topic at hand no matter what topic it stemmed from or what previous thinking went on.

DominicanLady previously said:



You said it, not me! I have said it before and I will say it again! I am not saying we do not have a migration problem in our hands, and most definitely there's nothing wrong with marching and protesting a cause! What I have a problem with, is some of the things I've heard people say against Haitians in this website. It's about how things are said that bothers me. And those that protest the matter in a civil way without getting outright nasty and despicable know what I'm talking about. One can make a point without being offensive, so is not what is done, but how is done.....

Lautaro previously said:

Perod,

I think that the questions to ask to the people that are complaining about our "agresiveness" should be: Why should it be a sin for dominicans to defend their soil with whatever methods they seem fit for the deed, specially when everyone else around the globe is basically doing the same bleeding thing? Why is it that foreigners are feeling the need to judge dominicans by a different standard than everyone else? Why this need for singling us out?

PeRod previously said:

What I have a problem with, is some of the things I've heard people say against Haitians in this website. It's about how things are said that bothers me. And those that protest the matter in a civil way without getting outright nasty and despicable know what I'm talking about. One can make a point without being offensive, so is not what is done, but how is done…
DominicanLady

DominicanLady, that is unfair.
I invite you to navigate the posts in different topics and you are going to notice that usually some Haitians are the offenders and, obviously, a lot of Dominicans answer the offenses.
I do not know the reason (I only have suppositions) but some Haitians really like to insult us. What do you expect us to do in that situation?
We do not have any animosity against Haitians (something extraordinary for a person who knows our common history) but in the same way that we do not want to live a common life with Argentina, Chile, Peru, Bolivia and all those country in Latin American we do not want to live a common life with Haiti either. We live in the same island but we must not and we are not going to live together and for them we are the solution to a lot of their problems. We have come to this point alone (with so many obstacles in our way, Haiti included) and we are going to go ahead alone.
Look at this recent post from a Haitian in other topic (this guy is writing in a DOMINICAN forum):

Lautauro, the level of class prejudice illustrated in your statement here is a fundamental element of your ideology toward workers be they Haitian or Dominican born. You are totally disqualified to be part of a debate on Workers' Rights anywhere on this Planet. Until you elevate yourself to think differently, this debate is not for you.
Caonabohayti.

¡Óyeme!, ¿Y qué le responde uno a un carajo así?
Why that answer? What did Lautaro write?

"Is it too much for you to swallow the little big fact that THE DR IS NOT THE BLEEDING USA, that the DR is a third world country that, to put it simply, can't give itself the luxury of maintaining the rejects from another society. As the people over here would say "no hay cama pa' tanta gente".
Lautaro.

That is “our” reality. Lautaro is just saying the truth: "no hay cama pa' tanta gente" but for Haitians we are obligated to make space for them.
DominicanLady, you are right: “one can make a point without being offensive, so is not what is done, but how is done…” but it is very human to answer fire with fire and usually we do not star the fire.

DominicanLady previously said:



Hey, how about this... So you are telling me that you are such an intelligent human being and that you are so freaking smart.
How come you are bringing yourself to those people's level? So you are seriously telling me that we should fight ignorance with ignorance?
Cause the the way I see it, that's going to solve absolutely nothing! Now my dear you can bet this is the last time you hear from me on this topic and or any other topics
related to this issue. This is nothing else but "Una Novela" And feel free to attack and insult me all you like, cause I will not be listening to you.

I will practice this....

Never wrestle a pig because you both get dirty, and the pig likes it!

sophiej previously said:

I am Haitian And I dont know what you're talking about some people who have never been to Haiti dont know what the Rich part look like they show you the poor part to make it seem like that what the whole country look like.. there's different kind of people in Haiti. you'll find the darkess people you'll find the whitest people, you'll people with Short hair and long hair.