#121 - Posted 8 February 2010, 4:04 PM
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Name calling shows a lack of education PEPE. malodorous trap, cochon wow. I understand when a person is cornered they resort to childish behavior.

wealth (my definition of wealth is education, giving the poor and opportunity not necessarely money)
Education and distribution of wealth. Allowing the poor the move up the ladder. Yes everyone can't move up at the same time and I realize that. You have to give people opportunities. Foster creativity, educate the population.

The wealthiest country in this world are rich because of the most inportant resource they have (IT'S PEOPLE).

Why are you flustered? If someone anyone says a lie I will call them out. I was taught right is right and wrong is wrong. You need to stop with the name calling. Be a gentlemen.
Haiti is messed up top to bottom and needs a full effort from All Haitians and the international community to evolve and move forward. Pepe noone country can survive by itself.

You didn't answer my questions because you are a fraud. I tell you some of your comments are right on the money but you show no respect for your fellow human being.
Say what you want but when you lie, play with data to favor your comment and/or agenda I will call you out.

Sorry PEPE my ahem"uncivilized, barbaric" family taught me right is right wrong is wrong. They also taught me name calling makes me look bad (small, uneducated) especially if the other party always take the high road

NO MORE NAME CALLING. DIALOGUE YES. Trashing the govt social structure yes, HAITIAN people especially when they live and work among you in ny no no no.
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#122 - Posted 8 February 2010, 5:44 PM
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Name calling shows a lack of education PEPE. malodorous trap, cochon wow. I understand when a person is cornered they resort to childish behavior.

You have not the level nor the education to corner me,as far as the name given your attitude and idiotic postings I believe I am being very polite for the true definition of your person is something I would not post.

Education and distribution of wealth. Allowing the poor the move up the ladder. Yes everyone can't move up at the same time and I realize that. You have to give people opportunities. Foster creativity, educate the population.

Education is part of the solution ,but part of the whole is culture since it is what is taught at home and is actually even more important to the society


The wealthiest country in this world are rich because of the most inportant resource they have (IT'S PEOPLE).

Finally a grain of truth in so much drivel!! The people and that is what Haiti does not have because a primeval culture holds the people back except for the Elites who have shed those backwards cultural aspects.

Why are you flustered? If someone anyone says a lie I will call them out. I was taught right is right and wrong is wrong. You need to stop with the name calling. Be a gentlemen.
Haiti is messed up top to bottom and needs a full effort from All Haitians and the international community to evolve and move forward. Pepe noone country can survive by itself.

You a like a little girl ,you throw the rock and then hide your hands ...you are not a gentleman nor do you deserve to be treated as such ! You come into a Dominican forum with your sub standard knowledge of English making false assumptions and blaming posters for the writings of other posters.I have told you I will not waste any more time with you and will treat you just like any other troll in this forum(ignore you) for I did give you the benefit of the doubt in the beginning but you have proven that your intentions are neither honest nor serious

Unfortunately the did not educate you well in your family since you do not accept your own misgivings and you lie either out of ignorance or out of deceit so you do note deserve the time

Good luck in your adventures and I will again ask you to refrain from writing to me

You didn't answer my questions because you are a fraud. I tell you some of your comments are right on the money but you show no respect for your fellow human being.
Say what you want but when you lie, play with data to favor your comment and/or agenda I will call you out.
I am done answering to someone of your stature but I probably know more parts of Haiti than you do

Sorry PEPE my ahem"uncivilized, barbaric" family taught me right is right wrong is wrong. They also taught me name calling makes me look bad (small, uneducated) especially if the other party always take the high road

NO MORE NAME CALLING. DIALOGUE YES. Trashing the govt social structure yes, HAITIAN peopl expecially when they live and work among you in ny no no no.

I will not call you what you deserve because I will not respond to you so your great dilemma is solved

Los enemigos de la Patria, por consiguiente nuestros, están todos muy acordes en estas ideas; destruir la nacionalidad aunque para ello sea preciso aniquilar a la Nación entera

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#123 - Posted 8 February 2010, 5:54 PM
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Name calling shows a lack of education PEPE. malodorous trap, cochon wow. I understand when a person is cornered they resort to childish behavior.

Of course this some hypocritical pit posts this on a regular basis "PEPE LE PEW the connoissuer of Haitian history and culture. Have you ever been to Haiti PEPE? Sophie read some of PEPE Le PEW's comments and you get a better sense of his mindset."

Why are Haitians so dysfunctional ??? this moron decries name calling yet he constantly resorts to it ....


Now the more intelligent posters would know that giving pearls to the swine is a biblical quote but someone who doesn't understand English is probably not equipped for these discussions.

Lastly I was educated in the English system and MALODOROUS is the correct spelling ..I suggest you try your infantile spell check before you write your drivel on this forum because you come off as avery ignorant person on all counts ..though with a name ignoranceisbliss you must be one happy fellow!

Anyhow I am finished with you piti



Edited on 2/8/2010 5:59 PM by Pepe32.
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#124 - Posted 8 February 2010, 7:20 PM
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PEPE LE PEW because your comments stink.. Never referred to you as subhuman, savage, barbaric, etc. Those are the names you and your cronies constantly call Haitians.

Someone of my stature LOL. Right.
I commend you on your spelling but you're so filled with hate that you become defensive. LOL.
What part of Haiti have you been to and when? Border doesn't count.

I will try to start a business in Haiti (commercial print shop) and create some better paying jobs. I started to call different org to do just that.
A mans legacy is not measured by material wealth but what kind of a name he leaves behind.

I understand your frustration. I would love to have a cup of coffe with you in the city for kicks. My treat.

I don't have to impress you PEPE my background speaks for itself.

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#125 - Posted 8 February 2010, 8:02 PM
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I've actually made a couple of calls to certain organizations that finance businesses in underdeveloped markets. My background is marketing sales so I would work very hard getting the clients.
Soros was building a large industrial park in PAP and I was looking into that. My father is an acct and he was looking around for me as well and trying to setup some contacts as well.
I wasn't sure If PAP or CapHatien would be better.
Another problem was Electricity. I think with a lot of tenacity it would've happened.

I have to wait and see what's going to happen in haiti.

You need to write well because people are making assumptions about your education level by the way you write.
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#126 - Posted 8 February 2010, 8:07 PM
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This mess will take 2 generations but there has to be strong commitment from haitians and the international community.

Education, Security, Rooting out Corruption. It's a long arduous process. I know they need a plan for the whole country not just PAP. They have to implement this plan for the country as a whole and not just PAP.

The people on here showed alot of compassion when the earthquake hit. I was surprised. Even the ones that make stupid racist comments.
the fear is a swarm of poor illiterate people crossing the border and that I understand. Some people on here also resort to make underhanded comments and that needs to stop.
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#127 - Posted 8 February 2010, 11:42 PM
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When I use to live in Haiti, Most people use to think That i was Domonican and they use to call My mom Dominican and We got offended cause Most Dominican women that we have in Haiti are prostitutes that's what they are known for I am not trying to offend anyone but it's the trurth. Even here, when i say i am Haitian people say to me "oh you dont look Haitian cause you're light skinned and you have long hair" What the Heck is a Haitian person suppose to look like?


They are suppose to look like pure-ebony, unadulterated, negroid black, the racial make-up of 95% of the population, that is what a Haitian is expected to look like in most, if not all cases, with a few rare exceptions and you are one of those few exceptions. It is probable that the circle of friends which you surrounded yourself with, looked like yourself or were lighter then you. In addition, I am almost certain that while you lived in Haiti, hardly ever did you venture out to mingle with the dispossessed masses unless they were hired hand and is unlikely that you had to interact within the chaos of Haitian underdevelopment. You stayed within the safe, secure, and sterile cocoon environment of your secluded enclave, but not far and nearby, you were surrounded by the reality of people in severe misery, infrahuman poverty, the wretched of the earth.

This is what you fail to state and selectively forgot to mentioned, that Haiti is mostly populated by drastically poor, black peasants. These were the people that stared in your face day-by-day, a normal everyday thing, which like you thousands of elite Haitians, could care less, preferred to ignore, look the other way and simply acted like if they were not there.
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#128 - Posted 9 February 2010, 2:24 PM
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This mess will take 2 generations but there has to be strong commitment from haitians and the international community.

Education, Security, Rooting out Corruption. It's a long arduous process. I know they need a plan for the whole country not just PAP. They have to implement this plan for the country as a whole and not just PAP.

The people on here showed alot of compassion when the earthquake hit. I was surprised. Even the ones that make stupid racist comments.
the fear is a swarm of poor illiterate people crossing the border and that I understand. Some people on here also resort to make underhanded comments and that needs to stop.


People should be entitled to make what ever comments they want to make. The last thing the world needs is thought police. Almost anywhere you go on the internet you are going to find offensive comments. The good thing about the internet is that people express their real opinions instead of what is considered popular opinion or politically correct. I don't think Haiti will ever change for the better as long as the same political system and Haitian elite are still exercising power. Haiti needs a reset button as far as that goes. I hope Haiti proves the world wrong but I cannot see that happening without a renaissance.
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#129 - Posted 9 February 2010, 5:35 PM
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I agree with you 1000%. Free speech i believe should be a given in every corner of the globe. It's the name calling (haitians are stupid, savages, barbaric, blah, blah ,blah) I have a problem with. "Yes I know that's what dominicans are taught from a young age.
I'm not saying be PC but be respectful.

PEPE32 was jumping up and down saying haitians should take up Senegal offer and move to Senegal, then french Guinea. Then trashing haitian history even though it's in black and white.

Shows a lack of education (not school but from the home) from some of the people on here.

It's the snide underhanded comments I think is unnecessary. You stated your opinion and that was it. Certain people would make an excellent point and top it off with an ignorant comment about HAitians.

Again, you are right on the money. Corruption is the biggest problem

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#130 - Posted 9 February 2010, 6:41 PM
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I agree with you 1000%. Free speech i believe should be a given in every corner of the globe. It's the name calling (haitians are stupid, savages, barbaric, blah, blah ,blah) I have a problem with. "Yes I know that's what dominicans are taught from a young age.
I'm not saying be PC but be respectful.

PEPE32 was jumping up and down saying haitians should take up Senegal offer and move to Senegal, then french Guinea. Then trashing haitian history even though it's in black and white.

Shows a lack of education (not school but from the home) from some of the people on here.

It's the snide underhanded comments I think is unnecessary. You stated your opinion and that was it. Certain people would make an excellent point and top it off with an ignorant comment about HAitians.

Again, you are right on the money. Corruption is the biggest problem




Name calling is expected. That's just a character flaw. Nationality or education level has no bearing on that and everybody has some sort of character flaw. Personally, I think Haitians should be relocated to French Guyana,partitioned their own Haitian state and here's why.

1. French Guyana has only around 250,000 people.

2. French Guyana has somewhere near 90% jungle cover.

3. French Guyana is three times the size of Haiti

4. French Guyanese speak French creole that is very similar to Kreyol Ayisyen.

5. Culturally French Guyana,Martinique,Guadeloupe and Haitian are similar to each other.

6. Haitians would get a fresh start in a new fertile cultivable land.

I know this would never happen in the real world but it's a good pipe dream none the less.
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