hopefully they'll get to understand.

Are you interjecting at the skin tones of the pictures of the women I chose to post? Because if that's case you should just say so. I am haitiana but my skin-tone is not so ebony, but it's like Garcelle's (she's one of the last pictures in the first post of the topic with the little boys). Then I guess you think unless I'm the ultimate ebony dark-brown color, then I'm not a real haitiana. Don't try to paint us with one brush and color. Every race has its variations. It's not so hard to understand, unless you just don't want to.


Beautiful video Yumnuk3, thanks for the post

Ooh so that's what it is, oh okay. Now I see where PeRod is coming from.

Yumnuk3, your presentations are wonderful (those are very good videos and pictures) but we are not talking about “beautiful women of Africa” or even about “beautiful black women no matter what skin tone or size”, we are talking about “Haitian women”.
I used JEM237 as an example of the “standard beauty” of a Dominican woman and actually she is a Dominican woman (living in United States) and that is the “standard beauty” you can expect to find when you come to Dominican Republic (that skin “café con leche” is a lethal weapon) .
There are beautiful women in Haiti too “with the standard beauty of a Haitian woman” and it is unfair (if you are not trying to win a contest) to use women from other places or completely out of what can be a standard in Haiti to represent them.

Here's more for ya PeRod













Yeah, we have our beauty pageants also.



www.haitisurf.com/haitiwomen/misshaiti.shtml

Every country likes to celebrate its beauties of all beauties, so do we.

Talia, now we are talking the same language.
Thanks for the pictures (and your patience).

“Then I guess you think unless I'm the ultimate ebony dark-brown color, then I'm not a real haitiana”.
Talia.
You are wrong, sweetheart. I think that you are a real haitiana but I have seen good looking “haitianas” with the ultimate ebony dark-brown color and those women are more “normal” over there than Garcelle and you.

Well, I'm glad we picked up on certain points.

PeRod, quick question, do most dominicanas out here in Estados Unidos, look like those in the present-day DR and what would be the reason in your opinion why haitianas out here don't look so much like haitiana in ayiti and DR?

The reason for that is that, unlike the DR's case, haitian inmigration to the US and Canada has been primarily composed (at least until the last decade) by people belonging to the elites and professional classes, which as you surely must know by now, on their majority tend to be more mulatto-looking than the haitians belonging to the peasantry of the plains (in fact, it's estimated that a 60% of the country's educated classes belongs to the diaspora). On the DR's case, the reason for the diaspora sharing a look with the dominicans on the island is for the fact that the DR belongs to the US inmigrant quota system, a system created to rid latin american societies of "undesirable" elements that could create social and political instability, a.k.a the lower classes, people belonging to displaced elements of the working class proletariat in the cities and landless peasants on the campos. Until 1965, DR's emigration to the US shared the same characteristics of the cuban and haitian ones in the sense of it being an elite one in its outlook, but after 1965, this would drastically change because of the april civil war, when the US decided that to grant entrance to the DR into the inmigration system (created after the reform of that year), this system being one of the reasons explaining why the DR hasn't suffered a major social explosion after the economic upheavals that have shaken the country since 1965 to the present days, (also the one explaining why Central America hasn't seen a resurgence of their civil wars of the 80's). I find it odd that the US hasn't seen fit to include Haiti on that system, seeing as how that country needs that escape valve more than any country on the area.