Sorry for the double post.
And obama is black, african american. He is the first black president!

Black means of african decent, not 100% african decent. Every black american in america is mixed with something even the blackest darkest ones like whoopie goldberg. No country where slaves were shipped have 100% black people! Obama is not self hating like a lot of u domincans, who swear you guys are not black. Barack calls himself black that it what he is, he looks black, been through what black people have in america and is black!

Africa itself is extremely diverse the african that I see here in NY look different differnt facial features differnt hair textures, different bodies. And a lot of them are beautiful!

Look at all these beautiful black models from AROUND THE WORLD, there's even a models and A LOT of them are african.

Look she's dominican and she was on the cover of the italian vogue ALL BLACK issue




All beautiful!!!!
And please look at these black people are ALL AVERAGE everyday black women!!!!! And look at all the different FEATURES they can have and skin colors, different sizes and ages! all with 2 black parents!!!

sashaisminniemouse previously said:

obama is black, african american. He is the first black president!


Your comments are insulting to his mother. put yourself in his mother's shoes......lets just respectfully agree to disagree.

Sashaisminniemouse, you are the ignorant.
Have all Haitians problems with comprehensive reading?
We are not talking about the black woman or about the African woman, we are talking about the Haitian woman and if we want to see a Haitian woman we only have to open a window. There are more Haitians in the Dominican Republic than in the United States and we are not a large country.
If you were not so ignorant you could see that this is Dominican site and in the Dominican Republic we do not use the one drop rule. Here a “black” person is a person with negroid features. You can see this as you wish but that is the way we handle this topic.
It is incredible how much Haitians women like the Caucasian features. Why do you feel so much shame of your actual women?
Where are you going to find Haitian women like those women in your pictures in Port-au-Prince (you can be sure that they are not in Santo Domingo)?
And as you are so ignorant I must underline that I am not saying that there is not beautiful Haitian women in Haiti or all around the world, I am saying that the “standard” Haitian woman does not look like the ones you are showing.

Why are you paying mind to a child? The poster that you are refferring to identified herself as a 17 year old. Nuff said.

Since when acknowledging our three heritages is a sign of denial? You'll excuse us, sasha, but as Perod has already told you, we don't (and will not ever follow) your stupid, simplistic, and downright idiotic one drop rule. If you don't like us as we are, then you can just leave (and in the process go and stuff your idiotic rule where you know). We will not change our ways just to satisfy your dumb and annoying politically correct sensitivities, cuz' we're tired of tyrannies as it is, and, as the late Charlton Heston would say "political correctness is only tyranny with manners".

Cibaeño75, now if a Haitian is 17 years old he or she can say that we are “ignorant people” and it does not matter?
And that is not the main problem. You perfectly know that some of them really like to insult us. It is an epidemic.
Our men exploit them and our women are prostitutes (and they can pay for them any time they want). They cannot live without our support and there is no insult that they do not use for us.
I do not know how you think but I strongly believe that in any case they will have to respect us even those 17 years old.

Sorry if I offended anyone I was in the heat of the moment.

WHOA! Uh Sasha you can actually downgrade the size of your photos and also edit the repeated post you made by simply deleting or writing the word "bump" or "deleted" Or the moderator might go and delete the posts you've made. Its important that you read the original topic post (first post) and also understand the Dominican perspective as well. I know it may be hard to grasp at first but that perspective is an important part of the standard here.

At the same time I understand where you are coming from and in the first post the significance was to show that one can post a response to a condescending remark without being completely belligerent and insensitive. Yes, I too posted photos but PeRod reminded me that the majority of haitianas in Haiti do not look this way (so westernized). Living in a warm and sunny Caribbean climate our African hues take on an even richer tone and texture and beyond that there is the matter of the socioeconomic status that impacts everything from appearance to survival. But beauty abounds in the minds of all those with dignity (and you can trust that we all have dignity). This led to one of my responses to PeRod:
In one sense I agree that the "black" or "African-American" nomenclature, title or label of a biracial person does partially stem from the historic "one-drop" rule but as you have most likely heard people with biracial identities have to deal with being judged (like most of us on any account) and having to choose what racial label or group to identify with. And unfortunately there is no specific, widely used term for those of recent mixed lineage ( 2 parents of different race or even grandparents for that matter) in the US but "biracial" or "mulatto". The former perhaps is much more politically-correct than the latter. But most people I've known like to ask about the mixture if anything it should elicit some bit of interest and intrigue rather than hate and discrimination especially in today's world.

So the reason why the rule was brought up and became significant in our discussion was because of some of the obvious implications and to make the conceptual distinction between the two countries. On who or what features are deemed black. Sometimes the Dominican perspective makes me think perhaps our classification was done more for a simple unification. But as they say not everything is as simple as ":black and white." (no pun intended, and if its not simple it doesn't mean its bad or that strange either).

Hope this helped you understand that not all us are ignorant but you have to give credit to the majority of a situation or issue and be clear about it. PeRod reminded us about that. Its cool, one time or another most us have been guilty of t.o.i. (typing on impulse) and not looking at all of the previous posts made. Happens all the time.

No sarcasm, its real. And you kinda wish that was the only reason.