| #41 - Posted 29 May 2009, 8:37 AM | |
Location: Canada, Montreal Join date: April 2009 Member #: 2474 Posts: 480 | RE: Haiti: A victim of a 21st century genocide Quote: NegMorne previously said: Quote: Belly previously said: Quote: TN1804 previously said: Beside, Nicaragua is poorer than Haiti now, Why UN (I dont want a nicaragua invasion ) dont go there ? No, go to Haiti,Rape girl, go to Cité Soleil . Beside, when I see people of Sri lanka i'm wtf ? Sri lanka helping Haiti ???? i want Haiti to be what it use to be and stop pointing fingers whos is pooerer or who is up or down. belly , you see, the problem is that when Ayiti wasnt the poorest country in the Hemisphere, the media never spoke about WHO was the poorest country in the hemishphere. When Ayiti reached that point, it has to be amplified to the world that it is the poorest country in the Hemisphere. its almost as if the media needed this to be something accomplished. (that is my point of view) even though its no longer the poorest country in the Hemisphere, the media STILL calls it the poorest country in the Hemisphere. When we are not, they say we are pointing our fingers about other country,,, |
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| #42 - Posted 22 October 2009, 2:57 PM | |
Location: Dominican Republic Join date: February 2008 Member #: 360 Posts: 635 | RE: Haiti: A victim of a 21st century genocide -before 1804. there was the french colony of Saint Domingue. the govenor general of the colony of saint domingue back then was a black man. His name was Toussaint L'ouverture. Under the reign of L'ouverture, Saint Domingue was STILL producing lots of money for France. You see, the French had a moment when they felt like abolishing slavery everywhere. France had abolished it in Gouadeloupe and Martinique and all her other colonies. Things were pretty good, and Toussaint was loyal to France. He actually believed that France was good because it abolished slavery and he dedicated himsefl to fight for it. He kicked the british out of Saint Domingue for France. However, unfortunately, France had a new leader called napoleon who wanted to reestablished slavery, so french army came took him away so that he could die in cold prison in switzerland. Some french colonists betrayed Toussaint because they helped him become overthrowned. that is why that when Dessalines won the independence war in 1804, he came up with the conclusion that no french ( not white )can be trusted. so that is why he ordered the slaughter of the french( not white ) people. and comparing that slaughter of french people to the treatment the slaves have endured for many years, i am so sorry to say that i dont see how people may call him a monster. before he ordered that slaughter, many french people had already fled to new orleans, so he slaughtered the remaining ones that were dumb enough to stay. there were many black people living in saint domingue before independence that went to school in france. so there were literate ppl in the new born Ayiti. (being white does not equal being litterate) in case you didnt know, in the years of 1806 to 1816, the northern part of Ayiti alone produced 75% of what it use to WITHOUT slavery. Castles forts were built in the region. Schools and roads were also built. in its early years, the southern part of Ayiti helped Gran Colombia ( thats the country that you wanted to join) achieve its independence as well. in case you didnt know, the flag of Gran colombia was sowned in Jacmel, Ayiti. to conclude Ayitians do have a right to be proud. They do have a History, and if it wasnt for that illegal debt that the stupid boyer agreed to pay, maybe Ayiti wouldnt have been as bad as it is today. Haiti was producing until you ancestors killed all the french or made them flee and that is a fact ! ***I don't blame your ancestors for rising up against the French for their brutality was unmatched but when your ancestors went to the east and continued your blood thirst against people who had not harmed you and who did not deserve your attacks your people created the basis for the mistrust and in some the hatred which still poisons our relations. Ever since you "got rid of" the French Haiti went down hill fast because you cannot take someone from a primeval society and have them run a nation ,worst of all Haiti even killed many mulattoes who were the few educated members of a society and even to the current date the difference between these elites and the general population is immense . I know the fairy tales you are taught in history (the few that can read) and will not go into their fallacies because it is irrelevant to the challenges Haiti faces today. si vis pacem para bellum |
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| #43 - Posted 22 October 2009, 3:02 PM | |
Location: Dominican Republic Join date: February 2008 Member #: 360 Posts: 635 | RE: Haiti: A victim of a 21st century genocide belly , you see, the problem is that when Ayiti wasnt the poorest country in the Hemisphere, the media never spoke about WHO was the poorest country in the hemishphere. When Ayiti reached that point, it has to be amplified to the world that it is the poorest country in the Hemisphere. its almost as if the media needed this to be something accomplished. (that is my point of view) even though its no longer the poorest country in the Hemisphere, the media STILL calls it the poorest country in the Hemisphere. ***If it were not for billions in foreign aid and assistance from NGO's Haiti would not even be standing and even with all the assistance your people are eating mud cakes and that does not happen anywhere else in this hemisphere but you have your head up your arse dreaming of fairy tale glories while real Haitians eat dirt (literally) and millions flood my country .Haiti has gone from a third world nation to a fifth world nation yet Haitians don't accept their current reality and those who are blind to reality can never correct their problems. Edited on 10/22/2009 3:03 PM by Pepe32. si vis pacem para bellum |
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| #44 - Posted 22 October 2009, 10:03 PM | |
Location: Canada, Montreal Join date: June 2009 Member #: 3003 Posts: 454 | RE: Haiti: A victim of a 21st century genocide Quote: Pepe32 previously said: -before 1804. there was the french colony of Saint Domingue. the govenor general of the colony of saint domingue back then was a black man. His name was Toussaint L'ouverture. Under the reign of L'ouverture, Saint Domingue was STILL producing lots of money for France. You see, the French had a moment when they felt like abolishing slavery everywhere. France had abolished it in Gouadeloupe and Martinique and all her other colonies. Things were pretty good, and Toussaint was loyal to France. He actually believed that France was good because it abolished slavery and he dedicated himsefl to fight for it. He kicked the british out of Saint Domingue for France. However, unfortunately, France had a new leader called napoleon who wanted to reestablished slavery, so french army came took him away so that he could die in cold prison in switzerland. Some french colonists betrayed Toussaint because they helped him become overthrowned. that is why that when Dessalines won the independence war in 1804, he came up with the conclusion that no french ( not white )can be trusted. so that is why he ordered the slaughter of the french( not white ) people. and comparing that slaughter of french people to the treatment the slaves have endured for many years, i am so sorry to say that i dont see how people may call him a monster. before he ordered that slaughter, many french people had already fled to new orleans, so he slaughtered the remaining ones that were dumb enough to stay. there were many black people living in saint domingue before independence that went to school in france. so there were literate ppl in the new born Ayiti. (being white does not equal being litterate) in case you didnt know, in the years of 1806 to 1816, the northern part of Ayiti alone produced 75% of what it use to WITHOUT slavery. Castles forts were built in the region. Schools and roads were also built. in its early years, the southern part of Ayiti helped Gran Colombia ( thats the country that you wanted to join) achieve its independence as well. in case you didnt know, the flag of Gran colombia was sowned in Jacmel, Ayiti. to conclude Ayitians do have a right to be proud. They do have a History, and if it wasnt for that illegal debt that the stupid boyer agreed to pay, maybe Ayiti wouldnt have been as bad as it is today. Haiti was producing until you ancestors killed all the french or made them flee and that is a fact ! ***I don't blame your ancestors for rising up against the French for their brutality was unmatched but when your ancestors went to the east and continued your blood thirst against people who had not harmed you and who did not deserve your attacks your people created the basis for the mistrust and in some the hatred which still poisons our relations. Ever since you "got rid of" the French Haiti went down hill fast because you cannot take someone from a primeval society and have them run a nation ,worst of all Haiti even killed many mulattoes who were the few educated members of a society and even to the current date the difference between these elites and the general population is immense . I know the fairy tales you are taught in history (the few that can read) and will not go into their fallacies because it is irrelevant to the challenges Haiti faces today. Slavery was never abolished in Martinique.They voluntary gave England possesion of the island at condition that slavery was not abolished. When slavery was black in france, they became again French territory. cf. Whitehall traite TN1804 |
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| #45 - Posted 24 October 2009, 10:29 AM | |
Location: Dominican Republic, San Francisco and Houston,Texas Join date: April 2009 Member #: 2555 Posts: 1243 | RE: Haiti: A victim of a 21st century genocide Quote: Pepe32 previously said: belly , you see, the problem is that when Ayiti wasnt the poorest country in the Hemisphere, the media never spoke about WHO was the poorest country in the hemishphere. When Ayiti reached that point, it has to be amplified to the world that it is the poorest country in the Hemisphere. its almost as if the media needed this to be something accomplished. (that is my point of view) even though its no longer the poorest country in the Hemisphere, the media STILL calls it the poorest country in the Hemisphere. ***If it were not for billions in foreign aid and assistance from NGO's Haiti would not even be standing and even with all the assistance your people are eating mud cakes and that does not happen anywhere else in this hemisphere but you have your head up your arse dreaming of fairy tale glories while real Haitians eat dirt (literally) and millions flood my country .Haiti has gone from a third world nation to a fifth world nation yet Haitians don't accept their current reality and those who are blind to reality can never correct their problems. the solution in Haiti now comes down to policies from the bigger countries Success is a journey of your life not a stage of your life! by Belly |
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