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#141 - Posted 24 April 2008, 5:59 PM
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Hispanophile is a word, frank.

His·pan·o·phile (h-spn-fl)
n.
An admirer of Spain or of Spanish-speaking countries or peoples.



He is right, that is the true definition of the word. I admire most of the Dominican culture because my mother introduce me to it and have taught me to embrace it just as much I admire the Haitian culture because I was born there and have learned and come to appreciate my jewish ancestral culture because of my father and his family who went great length to teach and tell me about it and not because of personal obsession and affinity. My attraction to both Haiti and Dominican Republic or Hispaniola in whole is personal to me because they are part of me and all that I am. To advocate for peace between the two nations is a native obligation of mine.
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#142 - Posted 24 April 2008, 6:05 PM
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Muchacho, you still did not say your take pertaining to UN troops in Haiti. "Comme agents du traffique" Que quieres a decir? No esta claro lo que esta tratando de transmitir... Verdad, no entiendo.


The UN troops are basically qualified to be traffic cops. They aren't qualified to train any military force. The troops in Iraq have been trained by the US military and its still far from being a success.

I think that the UN troops should leave Haiti altogether. Training should be left to the U.S. and the E.U. nations' forces they are better trained, better equipped, and don't need to use U.N. funds which could be better put for humanitarian aid. The U.N. has functioned best in the area of disaster relief and humanitarian aid. In the peacekeeping military arena it has been a historic failure.



I STRONGLY AGREE THERE!!! GREAT POINT!
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#143 - Posted 24 April 2008, 6:09 PM
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I would object to any involvement of the United states in training a potential new Haitian Army. Remember the last time the Americans trained the Haitian Army.....They used it to their advantage to surpress the population by insinuating Army Generals like Raoul Cedras to launch "coupe d'etat" and to kill his own people. I rather have nations that Haiti can trust to help train any new army. For this, I think the Brasilians would be a good candidate. America has to much influence on Haiti....We dont't need them influence any potential new military.


Yeah, you are right except with the hope this time it is not a full blown out occupation and that the Haitian government shall be more involved and the formation and structure of such Army, you dig? I am a U.S Army Soldier (SPC) myself and I have took part in the training of the Iraqis. Now I am going to school and a soon to be Captain. I wish I could be part of some joint US-Haitain military delegation in assisting to achieve such goal for Haiti.
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#144 - Posted 24 April 2008, 6:11 PM
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Is peace your biggest fear and the fear of both Dominicans and Haitians?



Not at all (at least not for me). My dearest wish is for both sides of the island to get developed economically, socially and politically on equal terms. That is, to stop this massive economical imbalance that has historically characterized the economical development on both countries, first one side being the stronger one day, then the other, and never ever the two of them being allowed the chance to be on equal levels. You're right in saying that the political and economical admnistration must be descentralized if Haiti wants to have a chance on development. I have never found the sense in this insane concentration of power on the capital, at least not in a democracy.


I SUPPORT THAT EMOTION!!!
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#145 - Posted 30 April 2008, 5:49 PM
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What's wrong with being proud of our hispanic root's? Hispanolano obviously you have shown your true colors trying to impose your views and ideals on dominicans. In short you want us to disconnect ourselves from our culture and accept, the Hispanolano cultural and racial construct? But more importantly for the latter, i will ignore as far as your formula (construct) i want to ask you a question what is your solution to Haiti's political and social ill's, and please try to condense your answer i dont want to read a short book dont got time for that!
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#146 - Posted 30 April 2008, 8:40 PM
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Maybe you could start a mini campaign against The Turks And Caicos for being racist?
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#147 - Posted 2 May 2008, 1:49 PM
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THE GREATEST VIDEO CILP FOR HAITI AND DR RIGHT HERE:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jcl71BD7fgA

Is DR is the Rhino or the Dog, or Is Haiti the Rhino or the Dog?
Either or whichever way you guys think fits us or can relate best. Point is here is the best video and National Anthem for the Island.
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#148 - Posted 2 May 2008, 6:12 PM
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Now you want to change the anthem too!!!!! I DONT THINK SO.....
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#149 - Posted 2 May 2008, 8:21 PM
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Now you want to change the anthem too!!!!! I DONT THINK SO.....



Hell Yeah, "In The Jungle The Mighty Jungle" baby... great anthem man! Or maybe "Hakuna Matata" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ejEVczA8PLU Perfect lol!!!

Or perhaps http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YRi20cWMYOM
Edited on 5/2/2008 8:26 PM by YoSoyHispanolano.
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#150 - Posted 3 May 2008, 11:35 PM
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Now you want to change the anthem too!!!!! I DONT THINK SO.....


I suggest both Haitians and Dominicans find a way to co-exist even if it means to shut down the border where it would require planes to be able to transport one to either sides of the Island; then of course DR will not blow up that border because why... Oh yeah, they still need Haitians to cross as they are saying at the same time they do not want them to cross and they know Haitians will not stop coming as long as they need money to survive. Here, have a read folks...

http://www.csmonitor.com/2006/0124/p04s01-woam.html

Those two documents are rather about a year or perhaps even two years old. Still, they pertain to today's everyday back and forth discussions, debates and arguments being held in here by both Dominicans and Haitians commonwealths who are still blaming each other regarding the sour relationship between DR and Haiti instead of placing the blames where they truly belong.

http://www.ijdh.org/pdf/RoundupJanuary17-%20232006.pdf

Edited on 5/3/2008 11:36 PM by YoSoyHispanolano.
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