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#411 - Posted 6 July 2008, 9:19 PM
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yeah who??
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#412 - Posted 6 July 2008, 9:19 PM
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By the way, who do you think sponsor most of those world censuses?



The US Department of State?



Thank you, and who do you think the foot agents are?

You still have to tell me what is 6% minus from a clean cut 9, 000, 000 people = ?
Then 6% minus from 9,365,818 people = ?
Then 6% minus from 9, 500, 000 people = ?

What is the result for each, Lautaro?
when you get the answer pass it on to ARC and CARLOS.

Haitians make up 6% of the Dominican population in DR that is of both legal and illegal ones without even mentioning the ones who are toursits with Visas from other US states. So it is absurd to say all those "supposedly 2 Millions" are illegals, then even then there is a lie in the number because that would mean those that are legals were not included in that number or that there is anorher populace number for the legal ones. So what is that number? Thus in tan case one would say DR has bigger problems than they have been avoiding form happening that DR is already then Haitianisex (lol)!
Edited on 7/6/2008 9:29 PM by Consuello.
#413 - Posted 6 July 2008, 9:21 PM
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yeah who??


THE US DEPARTMENT OF STATES
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Thank you!!! As it says here, valid or not and wiki or not and let us say we are going to give even a 6 % room margin for plus and minus posisble error. It says there in 2007 it was 9, 365, 819 or even if it was 9, 500, 000 and Haitians are a 6% of that population Lautaro, you do the math. What is 6% of a clean cut 9, 000, 000 population?



Well, my friend, wiki or no wiki, I guess we'll just have to agree to disagree, because, until proven the contrary with a new census, I'll stick with the 2,000,000 est., given as how the food and employment situations in Haiti haven't stabilized themselves yet and how the employment of inmigrants in the DR have only increased with the construction boom (without mentioning the increase in beggarcy and in the number of people selling calling cards, fruits and other types of things on the main avenues of Santo Domingo and the highways to the interior).
Edited on 7/6/2008 9:26 PM by Lautaro.
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By the way, who do you think sponsor most of those world censuses?



The US Department of State?


and why ? what is the US ultimate goal for gathering that information ?
#416 - Posted 6 July 2008, 9:24 PM
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Are you doubting its accuracy ?
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By the way, who do you think sponsor most of those world censuses?



The US Department of State?


and why ? what is the US ultimate goal for gathering that information ?


Their ultimate goal is to have a database of the entire world, that way, they'd avoid the embarrasssment of being in the dark if the necessity of intervening on a given country suddenly arise. Even more with the current "War on Terror" and all other related bs.
Edited on 7/6/2008 9:32 PM by Lautaro.
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#418 - Posted 6 July 2008, 9:33 PM
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By the way, who do you think sponsor most of those world censuses?



The US Department of State?


and why ? what is the US ultimate goal for gathering that information ?


Their ultimate goal is to have the database of the entire world, that way, they'd avoid the embarrasssment of being in the dark if the necessity of intervening on a given country suddenly arise.


Exactly and also to know accordingly how much per capita they must give or must be given in terms of AIDES assistance. Much like in simple terms that in order for you to give your money to someone you want to know exactly how many occupants in the house there are so budget wise the amount you will give has everyone in that household covered.
Edited on 7/6/2008 9:45 PM by Consuello.
#419 - Posted 6 July 2008, 9:44 PM
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Thank you!!! As it says here, valid or not and wiki or not and let us say we are going to give even a 6 % room margin for plus and minus posisble error. It says there in 2007 it was 9, 365, 819 or even if it was 9, 500, 000 and Haitians are a 6% of that population Lautaro, you do the math. What is 6% of a clean cut 9, 000, 000 population?



Well, my friend, wiki or no wiki, I guess we'll just have to agree to disagree, because, until proven the contrary with a new census, I'll stick with the 2,000,000 est., given as how the food and employment situations in Haiti haven't stabilized themselves yet and how the employment of inmigrants in the DR have only increased with the construction boom (without mentioning the increase in beggarcy and in the number of people selling calling cards, fruits and other types of things on the main avenues of Santo Domingo and the highways to the interior).


The census is general which means supposedly all of those you have named above are included in it. Do not try to sculpture this in any other way to which is why and what makes or leave it with such room for descrepancy and inaccuracy this census, Laut...

Anyhow and still, even if you want to stick to your number which you have every right and entitled to, but give me the result for the figures I have asked you an answer for without patiality and I k now you are a lot more smart and liberal than that as to why and how you and I always can discuss things like we do respectfully as I always give you praises for your educated constructive arguments.

What is 6% minus your number you have given which you said was 9, 500, 000 people?

What is 6% minus AntonioJ's number he has given which he said was 9, 365, 819 people?

What is 6% minus a clean cut minimum round number population of 9, 000, 000 people?
Edited on 7/6/2008 9:44 PM by Consuello.
#420 - Posted 6 July 2008, 9:51 PM
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Are you doubting its accuracy ?


Yes, it is not accurate as no censors are ever accurate while taking into consideration many racial discriminatory campaigns and human right violations that take place in DR of those migrants which even those migrants would not have been stupid to allow or divulge to Government officials of their actual status knowing they would be exposing themselves as illegals immigrants who wish to stay in DR to work and survive, thus to get that number it would in all sense and scenarios be estimated which leaves too much room for inaccuracy as I have stated over and over in the previous reply to this matter.