(the elites have to thank Balaguer for disrupting that).

But especially the US

Don't say that before GC, ciby, because then he'll accuse you of having "yankeephobia" or of "having gone to the Dark Side" or being a "commie stooge". LOL

Haitians need serious psychoanalysis as a nation.They have created the biggest man made disaster area in this hemisphere and yet somehow they feel they have some sort of authority to tell others how to define themselves or what to do with their nation.

If Haitians want anyone to take them even halfway seriously ,they should attempt to fix that disaster called Haiti and keep quiet about any other nations.

If Haitians feel DR mistreats their citizens ,they should not go to DR.

I see a sick and perverted attempt to demonize DR while the main culprit is the Haitian people's lack of culture which unfortunately is their main contribution to Dominican culture through their multiple invasions.Haiti is where it is for a reason and only with the French did that side of the island produce anything,but with the genocidal of the French in Haiti the new republic found itself with people who were not fit to run a candy store running a nation and these racist genocidal maniacs soon set their eyes on DR starting a cycle of animosity that continues to this day.

I have asked the few sickly pro-Haitian Dominicans to name one POSITIVE contribution that Haitians can bring to DR and the silence is deafening ,Haitians mainly bring backwardness,misery and disease to other nations and DR is no exception .We have no reason to want Haitian immigration to DR and the few positive points (it helps the rich and powerful with cheap labour) do not matter to most Dominicans who see an almost primeval people illegally yet "peacefully" invade our nation.

If Haitians truly want peace they should stay on their side of the island and accept the deportations of their nationals without complaint because the alternative is brewing just beneath the surface and the violence could be staggering.

Peace comes from respect and respect is not coming to a Dominican forum to defend Boyer and Dessalines while most of us condemn Trujillo.You always have excuses to justify your sick barbarism and even have statues erected to honour your genocidal racist leaders proving exactly who are the true racists.

Sorry for the political incorrectness but Haiti is like the alcoholic that can't admit he has a drinking problem ....Haitians think that they are some great nation in their minds but the rest of the world sees what Haiti truly is and until Haitians realize the truth they will never be able to correct their problems.We as Dominicans don't have any delusions of greatness which is exemplified by our anthem ,we know we have problems and we know that most of them are our own creation so we are slowly but surely correcting those problems while Haitians beleive they are so great their problems are always someone else's fault (France,US,DR,,,) and never look into the mirror to see the main reason for their failure.

Si esta gente dedicaran la mitad del esfuerzo que usan para criticar a otros y para hablar de la supuesta grandeza de Haiti a trabajar por su patria ,otra cosa seria pero esta gente son aborigenes con aires de Franceses.

Say whatever you want pepe32 but neither Boyer and Dessaline is viewed by the KKK as an inspirational founder of that organization. Secondly, Dessaline may seem as a racial terrorist-monster to Dominicans but all across the world, he was viewed as a freedom fighter and one who helped liberate the world from slavery. That right there is more significant than anything that any Dominican historical figure has or will achieve. The Downfall of slavery is a result of Louverture, Dessaline,Petion,Christophe,Boyer, and all the slaves/freedmen that fought along and under them. Thier legacy lives through the blood of all Haitians and there is nothing you can say to deminish that or take it away from us. If freeing the world from slavery means that Haiti will forever be the blemish of the earth, then it was worth all the poverty, disease, violence, instability, and misery that is Haiti. I am 100% sure that the men that I mentioned will vouch for that. "Pour le pays, Pour la patrie"

Sacrifice is not sacrifice unless you die making it. The worse thing that could happen to sacrifice is having to live through it after you have made it, then it seems as though it was no sacrifice at all.

In other words, had most Haitian liberators not survived the to live after the revolution they would have today been glorified by the rest of the world and Haiti would have perhaps been a center of the world, but because Haiti gets to survive and lived through it it is easy to make a catalyst pariah of Haiti without ever understand nor give credit to the kind of sacrifice and great deeds those men have accomplished for the rest of the world to stem confidence from in believing they too can stand in the face or oppression.

In my opinion, that is a bleeding lie from Taína Mirabal, because, how Duarte can be of any inspiration to a group of men that don't posess one iota of geographical/historical knowledge of the world, and which only know their own due to the fact that it's mandatory? (Surely, you, more than anybody else, having grown up on that society, can attest to the fact of the enormous ignorance of the common gringo about the rest of the world, despite the fact of having an inmense wealth of information at the tip of their hands, so to speak). Please, don't tell me that you'd fallen in the trap of assuming things only for the fact that one crazy and foolish expatriate of ours told you so, because you know what they say about the people who assume. Somehow I find downright laughable the notion that Nathan Bedford Forrest, being the fanatic nativist SOB that he was, would get inspiration to found his group of foolish bloodhounds from a foreigner. It just doesn't add up, considering that we're talking about an era (the 1870's) when the irish, the italians, and the hispanics, despite the fact of being caucassians, were treated and considered no better than trash by the WASP society (in no small part because of the Catholic upbringing of those groups).

With all due respect Lautaro, I did not state that this is a belief of mine and that it is true. I was just using that to elaborate my point to the vicious comment that the nemrod above made about my ancesters. It is just a rumor that has been floating around for some years and which I wanted to him think and use his brain. If you think I have defamed Duarte legacy by using that in my post, I apologize with great humility. It clearly was not my intention.

I also have to apologize if I assumed you believed that slander, mr. souviens. You have shown time and again that you're too smart to fall into the snare of those slanderous groups. Instead of pointing fingers at the inmigrants, what Pepe and others like him should strive for is to denounce the corrupt practice of our politicians and construction businesses, which are the groups that are profitting the most from the inmigrants toilings.

Speaking about history, any historian that seriously studies Dominican history will come to the conclusion that it is an independent country today against all odds. There is absolutely no question about the amount of blood and bravery the ancestors of Dominicans showed under the various Haitian invasions. This is not an attempt to demonize Haitians, it's just that I think alot of Dominicans do not know about the significance of what there forefathers went thru to be free of the Haitian yoke.
The other question I have for you gentelmen, why is there always a question of historical Anti-Haitianismo but I've yet to every read the very real historical Anti-Dominicanismo of Haiti?

How many times did DR invade Haiti? 0
How many time did DR occupy Haiti? 0
Due to having a smaller population and Haitian settlers modren DR is actually smaller than historical DR.

And why is the race card pulled? Haitians experience the same things in Bahamas, Jamaica, Turks & Caicos, Guadaloupe & Martinique, etc. Surprisingly, if you read the excerpts, Haitians also say the same thing (Guadaloupans are wanna be Frenchmen, etc.)

Anti-hatianismo and Anti-dominicanism are on two totally different level. I highly doubt if you took a poll of how Haitians few Dominicans, that the result will be negative. Unlike in DR, Haiti has not had not sponsored anti-dominicanism. When you have president who are clearly racist spewing diatribes against another nationality, it makes it much worse.