| #711 - Posted 13 December 2009, 12:40 AM | |
Location: United States Join date: December 2009 Member #: 4164 Posts: 2 | RE: DOMINICANS AND HAITIANS, WHAT IS THE PROBLEM? [QUOTE=oupala07] "i never heard of a "Miss Haitian" candidate participating in miss universe... Ha ha ha!" The reason why is because you or your parents were still living in a cave outside civilization when our Claudinette Fouchard was crowned Miss Universe in the 40s. I would gladly add her pic on the spot in I was allowed to do so. [/QUOTE] there has been a miss haiti, in 1962 evelyn miot[miss haiti] was the 1st black woman to reach the top five finalist position in the miss universe pageant& she was a semi-finalist |
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| #712 - Posted 13 December 2009, 1:24 PM | |
Location: United States, Orlando,Florida Join date: July 2009 Member #: 3206 Posts: 157 | RE: Dominicans and Haitians, what is the problem? I dont get it obviously the haitian president is a big loser, who doesn't do anything but sit there. But why cant we all just get along. State the problems they have with each other wouldn't that be way easier. And try to solve it all. I mean even Wyclef Jean and Kat Deluna are together tryna get yall together. Whats the big deal. Yeah haiti has some probems but the dominican republic has some problems to. Just get along already. Solve your problems help each other be friendly is that really that hard! Staying away from each others not really gonna do anything there still gonna hate each other on prejudecy. Work it out for god sakes! |
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| #713 - Posted 13 December 2009, 1:35 PM | |
Location: United States Join date: March 2008 Member #: 522 Posts: 1184 | RE: DOMINICANS AND HAITIANS, WHAT IS THE PROBLEM? deleted Edited on 12/13/2009 5:19 PM by guillermone. |
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| #714 - Posted 13 December 2009, 1:35 PM | |
Location: United States Join date: March 2008 Member #: 522 Posts: 1184 | RE: DOMINICANS AND HAITIANS, WHAT IS THE PROBLEM? [QUOTE=dom2001] [QUOTE=oupala07] "i never heard of a "Miss Haitian" candidate participating in miss universe... Ha ha ha!" The reason why is because you or your parents were still living in a cave outside civilization when our Claudinette Fouchard was crowned Miss Universe in the 40s. I would gladly add her pic on the spot in I was allowed to do so. [/QUOTE] there has been a miss haiti, in 1962 evelyn miot[miss haiti] was the 1st black woman to reach the top five finalist position in the miss universe pageant& she was a semi-finalist [/QUOTE] What year was that? 1940 you say? And after that 1962? that is a 22 year difference in time span between both years. but according to you the last time a Haitian candidate participated was almost 48 years ago. Come on now, unless you are being satirical, I would just keep quiet and ignore the post and not even make an attempt for a defense. Nevertheless, the last thing Haiti should worry about right now is the selection of a beauty contestant for a Miss Universe. There are a lot more UGLY things that need attention that is of greater concern at this time like food, clothing, shelter, health care, safety & security and education, Oh and yes, a wish for World Peace. Edited on 12/13/2009 9:45 PM by guillermone. |
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| #715 - Posted 14 December 2009, 10:10 AM | |
Location: Turks and Caicos Islands Join date: March 2009 Member #: 2398 Posts: 58 | RE: DOMINICANS AND HAITIANS, WHAT IS THE PROBLEM? i always thought that you were a racist, your statement about dominican culture been iberian is stupid. i am married to a dominican and have been to DR on to many occassions to mention, damm i even have a villa in constanza. I have gone around DR and is still looking for that iberian culture, your culture is a mixture of spanish and african. check out your foodsand music. my wife who calls her self a white dominican and claims spanish royal blood was ashamed to tell me of her african heritage until i saw some of her grandparents photos. And just to add i have been to argentina and chile these cultures are iberian with no spots of african. sad to say DR culture is similar to brazil gettho |
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| #716 - Posted 14 December 2009, 11:37 AM | |
Location: United States Join date: March 2008 Member #: 522 Posts: 1184 | RE: DOMINICANS AND HAITIANS, WHAT IS THE PROBLEM? Quote: troy310879 previously said: i always thought that you were a racist, your statement about dominican culture been iberian is stupid. i am married to a dominican and have been to DR on to many occassions to mention, damm i even have a villa in constanza. I have gone around DR and is still looking for that iberian culture, your culture is a mixture of spanish and african. check out your foodsand music. my wife who calls her self a white dominican and claims spanish royal blood was ashamed to tell me of her african heritage until i saw some of her grandparents photos. And just to add i have been to argentina and chile these cultures are iberian with no spots of african. sad to say DR culture is similar to brazil gettho Troy I am not sure to whom you are talking or referring when you stated "i always thought that you were a racist" however, for person who appears to have traveled, you seem to lack knowledge and are unable to tell the difference or distinguish particularities among cultures or know how to define the meaning of "Iberian." And it also seems as though you have not been married very long to your very young Dominican spouse and it is likely that you are just recently getting acquainted with the Dominican people. I am sorry but by your comment, you just come across as someone who is not very familiar and simply does not understand our psyche. You are apparently confused and failed to recognize historical ramifications and regional differences among Dominicans. Owning property in the Dominican Rep particularly in a distant and remote area does not qualify you as an expert on Dominican culture. Tell me are you a member of the Centro Español or Casa de España? How about Centro de Recreo? Have you ever been to or participated in any activities a the Gurabito or Santo Domingo Country? Are you familiar with the Cibaeño Culture and if so how and where did it come from and where is it found? Have you ever been in and around the area of La baranquita? I do not deny that there is without a doubt strong African elements in our culture, but because of that are we obligated to dismiss our Spanish/Iberian,Taino ancestry and everything else in the pot? Do you believe in the one drop rule which states that any trace of African ancestry automatically makes you a negro? How about the great number of Dominicans who are of Syrian-Lebanese-Palestian origin? How about and where do you place the thousands of German Jews, Japanese and Chinese migrants who mixed-in and integrated with the Dominican people and became part of our racial mix? Tell me what about the hundreds of Hungarians technicians which came to construct "La Presa de Tavera during the 1950's of which most stay, married Dominicans and never went back? What about the French and Italians who arrived on Dominican shores as refugees to excape the violent gusts of world War II. In addition to Spanish, African and Taino you fail to acknowledge and recognize that we Dominicans are also much more then just a pre-dominate tri-mix of races and depending upon where you are in the DR one of those mixes might take precedence over all the others. |
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| #717 - Posted 14 December 2009, 12:08 PM | |
Location: Dominican Republic Join date: August 2009 Member #: 3410 Posts: 456 | RE: DOMINICANS AND HAITIANS, WHAT IS THE PROBLEM? Quote: guillermone previously said: Quote: troy310879 previously said: i always thought that you were a racist, your statement about dominican culture been iberian is stupid. i am married to a dominican and have been to DR on to many occassions to mention, damm i even have a villa in constanza. I have gone around DR and is still looking for that iberian culture, your culture is a mixture of spanish and african. check out your foodsand music. my wife who calls her self a white dominican and claims spanish royal blood was ashamed to tell me of her african heritage until i saw some of her grandparents photos. And just to add i have been to argentina and chile these cultures are iberian with no spots of african. sad to say DR culture is similar to brazil gettho Troy I am not sure to whom you are talking or referring when you stated "i always thought that you were a racist" however, for person who appears to have traveled, you seem to lack knowledge and are unable to tell the difference or distinguish particularities among cultures or know how to define the meaning of "Iberian." And it also seems as though you have not been married very long to your very young Dominican spouse and it is likely that you are just recently getting acquainted with the Dominican people. I am sorry but by your comment, you just come across as someone who is not very familiar and simply does not understand our psyche. You are apparently confused and failed to recognize historical ramifications and regional differences among Dominicans. Owning property in the Dominican Rep particularly in a distant and remote area does not qualify you as an expert on Dominican culture. Tell me are you a member of the Centro Español or Casa de España? How about Centro de Recreo? Have you ever been to or participated in any activities a the Gurabito or Santo Domingo Country? Are you familiar with the Cibaeño Culture and if so how and where did it come from and where is it found? Have you ever been in and around the area of La baranquita? I do not deny that there is without a doubt strong African elements in our culture, but because of that are we obligated to dismiss our Spanish/Iberian,Taino ancestry and everything else in the pot? Do you believe in the one drop rule which states that any trace of African ancestry automatically makes you a negro? How about the great number of Dominicans who are of Syrian-Lebanese-Palestian origin? How about and where do you place the thousands of German Jews, Japanese and Chinese migrants who mixed-in and integrated with the Dominican people and became part of our racial mix? Tell me what about the hundreds of Hungarians technicians which came to construct "La Presa de Tavera during the 1950's of which most stay, married Dominicans and never went back? What about the French and Italians who arrived on Dominican shores as refugees to excape the violent gusts of world War II. In addition to Spanish, African and Taino you fail to acknowledge and recognize that we Dominicans are also much more then just a pre-dominate tri-mix of races and depending upon where you are in the DR one of those mixes might take precedence over all the others. Very well stated! I have nothing else to add. |
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| #718 - Posted 14 December 2009, 12:13 PM | |
Location: Turks and Caicos Islands Join date: March 2009 Member #: 2398 Posts: 58 | RE: DOMINICANS AND HAITIANS, WHAT IS THE PROBLEM? sorry to make you unhappy i am from trinidad i am a mixture of portuguese, scottish, east indian and african. i dont see myself as african,east indian or white but i will not hide my roots from no one, i am proud of all. furthur more i have been married to my wife for 5 years speaks and also speaks spanish. at times many dominicians in turks and caicos thinks i am dominician. you c i came from a racially mixed country. and knows racisim when i smells it. look up trinidad and tobago its a richer country than yours. |
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| #719 - Posted 14 December 2009, 1:38 PM | |
Location: United States Join date: March 2008 Member #: 522 Posts: 1184 | RE: DOMINICANS AND HAITIANS, WHAT IS THE PROBLEM? Quote: troy310879 previously said: sorry to make you unhappy i am from trinidad i am a mixture of portuguese, scottish, east indian and african. i dont see myself as african,east indian or white but i will not hide my roots from no one, i am proud of all. furthur more i have been married to my wife for 5 years speaks and also speaks spanish. at times many dominicians in turks and caicos thinks i am dominician. you c i came from a racially mixed country. and knows racisim when i smells it. look up trinidad and tobago its a richer country than yours. Just as I suspected, you are new to our culture and apparently have much to learn. Funny that people confuse you with Dominican, but that is the same case with me, even natives from your very own country have often confused me as a Trinidanian. And by the way, I am not unhappy at all, I only smelled ignorance in the air and when something has a bad odor, I simply take it as an unpleasant moment that often times has a remedy. Nevertheless, I do not lose happiness because of it, I just squeeze my nose and use scented spray mist to clear the air. Most times it takes care of the problem, but when the smell won't leave, then we need to do something more drastic. Additionally, I do not need to look up information about T&T I am very familiar with your country, at least theoretically, and I am aware that it is a petroleum rich country. I also know that investors from Trinidad bought a few years back, one of our defunct banks during the not too long ago Dominican banking crisis, but that is besides the point and please understand that money does not give you class. However, be aware that oil is not a bottomless natural resource but has its limitations, once the well drys up your country will be up shits creek. Most world empires have all come and gone and your little country is no different, but rather has greater suseptibility to price fluctuations in the world comododies market. So don't pound your chest quite so hard, nothing last forever. About you stating that "...i will not hide my roots from no one," This is probably what you incorrectly and wrongly believe that Dominicans attempt to do, hide their African ancestry and the reason you say this is because you lack information, otherwise you would never make such a comment. There is a lot that you need to learn, know and understand about us and only after you have achieved true discernment, will you hopefully realize and accept how wrong you are. Edited on 12/14/2009 5:52 PM by guillermone. |
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| #720 - Posted 14 December 2009, 1:48 PM | |
Location: Dominican Republic Join date: August 2009 Member #: 3410 Posts: 456 | RE: DOMINICANS AND HAITIANS, WHAT IS THE PROBLEM? Quote: troy310879 previously said: sorry to make you unhappy i am from trinidad i am a mixture of portuguese, scottish, east indian and african. i dont see myself as african,east indian or white but i will not hide my roots from no one, i am proud of all. furthur more i have been married to my wife for 5 years speaks and also speaks spanish. at times many dominicians in turks and caicos thinks i am dominician. you c i came from a racially mixed country. and knows racisim when i smells it. look up trinidad and tobago its a richer country than yours. First off you come off very arrogant talking about your country is richer than ours, which in all honesty I can care less which is richer and which is poorer. I am Dominican of Italian, African, Spanish and Taino background and never have denied it and am very proud of being a mixed person but most of all of being Dominican. In our country there is one thing that unites us all and that is our nationality. Regardles of whether one is white, black or mixed we are all Dominican and at the end of the day we all party together, we all go to school together, go to the same clinics and hospitals and recognize that we are all Dominican regardless of race. |
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