Muchacho,

Are you saying these dominicans heroes of haitian descent are really spaniards from the catalan region. Hmmm???? Am I the only one seeing a pattern of denial among some posters. Dimwen la veldad tu abuela c'etait une haitiana. Y toi tambien a sangre haitiana. This goes perfect with your articles...there isn't a translator for creoñol...Im sure your knowledable self have learned haitiano panyol... EVen there spaniards were really french influence catalaños...Nice try though...I must admit you are a knowledgable individual, thank god for search engines, but please refrain from using it to tarnish what any illiterate could figure out. According to you lets claim dominicans as spaniards from all the autonomas states of spain and haiti as far as possible. It doesnt make these dominican heroes less dominican...


I see you went to edit your post after doing another search on catalan & occitan...That L.D Sorbonne degree has made you a genious..incroyable, the lengths folks shall go..

Well, muchacho, one of the Imbert's happens to be one of my acquaintances, and what he had told me all over again is that his family came with the Napoleonic expedition that came to subdue Toussaint in 1802. And, as you must be aware of, the majority of those troops were frenchmen, with only a minority of them being polish or italian. I haven't yet heard accounts about some of them being from the Iberian peninsula, yet.

Lautaro,

Chapeau bas!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! As usual you've eloquently brought the past to the present with finesse. Do you know anything about the occupation time. Like details of events "cause & effect" although you explain earlier regarding this briefly. T. L'ouverture was manipulated and use too optmistic regarding having france as an ally on the other hand Dessaline manipulated the mass for his own personal interest,power. Dessaline did not speak french like the article mention by machacho. He did hate the french and massacred them without regret while L'ouverture had a better experience with the french and wanted to form a bond thru mutual respect..Napoleon wasn't willing to negotiate with negros...elaborate please..mesi anpil

Well, mr. jabao, it happens that, contrary to what the elites try to indoctrinate us with all over again, Toussaint was regarded with the same regard that his brethen did, that is, he was regarded by the easterners as a king or deliverer that would rid them from all their ancestral problems. His brief governorship of the island saw an economic revival not only of the battle ravaged western part, both also of the poverty-ridden eastern part as well. Toussaint, wisely, considered that, in order to bring the wished union between both parts of the island, the rulers would have to necessarily accomodate themselves to the wants of the population. In that regard, he would allow the easterners to keep their usual laws, customs and language (excepting slavery, of course), his only imposition would be to force the easterners to put their inmense tracts of land to the cultivation of the more profittable staples on the western market, namely, coffee, cocoa, sugar and indigo. Because the easterners, like their western counterparts, had a penchant for subsistence farming that Toussaint saw as something that needed to be curtailed if not outright discouraged, if the colony wanted to be prosperous, that is. One of his main contributions to the eastern part of the island would be the reparation of the old colonial roads, which were on disuse, and the foundation of the town of Barahona, in order to attract the maroon communities living in the Bahoruco under more direct control.

That is not unliquely...the Catalans were active supporters of Napoleon's invasion of the Iberian peninsula and many supported the independence of the colonies. Cataluña has always dreamed of reestablishing its indepedence which was lost with the union of Castilla and Aragon under Ferdinand and Isabela. To this day, Cataluña continues to agitate for less control from Madrid. The Catalans' ultimate goal is total independence from the Spanish state.

They have historically sided with any power that has opposed the central government in Madrid.

Get your eyes checked jabao. I specifically mentioned TWO families that I am aware of. How on earth do you manage to read conspiracy theories where none exist?

And when I edit I normally do it to correct spelling errors. I don't need to prove anything to you. But you do go to great lenghts to prove quite a few thngs (things...for jabao...just correcting my spelling) to me.

*It is nice to know that you are double-checking my facts jabao. So far, those facts are not denied. You've yet to contradict any of them. Keep double-checking me on Wikipedia. Advise me when I'm wrong. I always welcome a correction.

I most say, that many Spaniards who came to the island where from catalunya and the Canary Islands.

I most say, that many Spaniards who came to the island where from catalunya and the Canary Islands.

Their last names are everywhere in D.R., P.R. and Cuba.

Agrelot, Malaret, Lluch, Espaillat, Imbert, Rossello, Guillot (the Great Olga Guillot is revered in Cataluña even though she is Cuban...but that's where her family's from), Avellanet, Morel, Balaguer, Montaner, etc. The Catalan list (is...another correction) long.

Mr. Lautaro, can you please just call me Jabao. You are a genious genious genious. Man I hope you are teaching this real wisdom that takes time and sacrfice unlike typing into a search engine to come up with this conclusion. Toussaint is my favourite hero from the haitain revolution and if he wasn't betrayed by his OWN people my we would have had better relations among our bethrens. I believe haitian students along with dominican students wanted to comemorate him in Barahona but it turned into a political mayhem and the ceremonies were not held. My philosophy is you can hide the truth distort it but it well come out sooner or later..it my take centuries but it will eventuall prevail.. Dios te bendiga...Cibaeno I think this fellow Lautaro should write a book about the history of the island..you should consider...that's if you haven't already