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#51 - Posted 2 September 2009, 6:02 PM
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and beside why change a name 2 century after..
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#52 - Posted 2 September 2009, 7:09 PM
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and beside why change a name 2 century after..


better late than never!!!
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We're not talking about changing names here. We're talking about giving a name to a nation that is only known by her denomination of state, that is, the style of goverment. The reason of naming the new independent and sovereign state Dominican Republic, was because the idea of the Trinitarians headed by Duarte wanted to change the name of the island back to that of Santo Domingo, so our newly independent nation would'nt be a "Haitian Republic". Does this make sense? Yes. The name of the Island is Santo Domingo, we are both (Haitian and Quisqueyan nationas) Dominicans regionally. Do you see the difference? National identity and reginal identity is not the same. Many nations can share the same region, be it a continent, an island, a group of island, sea, ocean, even a penninsula, but the name of a nation is unique in the World. Your national identity corresponds to the land where people sharing the same culture, habits and abide under the same laws and principles stated in one document called the constitution. What we are claiming is that our national name is not in our constitution yet. Thanks God there is a National Anthem that have survived to prove what that name is: Quisqueya.
Edited on 9/3/2009 11:58 AM by CONSTITUCION.
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Haitians arent " Dominican"

In the Haitians constitution have the same name for the entire Island since 1804.

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Tigueraso, los únicos que se benefician manteniendo la confusión de que Haití continúe llamando a la isla, Isla de Haití y nosotros la llamemos Isla de Santo Domingo, son los haitianos, si nosotros no nos ponemos las pilas y primero legalizamos que nuestra identidad nacional es la quisqueyana y que Quisqueya es el nombre de nuestra Patria, para hacerles cambier el nombre de la isla en su constitución, porque por esa razón es que los haitianos se creen dueño de toda la isla. El que admitan que la isla se llama Santo Domingo, es el primer paso para tener relaciones de nación a nación.
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Tigueraso, los únicos que se benefician manteniendo la confusión de que Haití continúe llamando a la isla, Isla de Haití y nosotros la llamemos Isla de Santo Domingo, son los haitianos, si nosotros no nos ponemos las pilas y primero legalizamos que nuestra identidad nacional es la quisqueyana y que Quisqueya es el nombre de nuestra Patria, para hacerles cambier el nombre de la isla en su constitución, porque por esa razón es que los haitianos se creen dueño de toda la isla. El que admitan que la isla se llama Santo Domingo, es el primer paso para tener relaciones de nación a nación.


I don't see how changing the name of the country will suddenly make the haitians think they are in a different country... Santo Dominigo, Quisqueya, La Espanola, Haiti, Bohio, are also name for the whole island... so your argument will fail in achieving the object of clarifying to Haitians that they are in a different country, which i thought they knew....


BOSCHLANDIA no connection to Haiti whatsoever

In honor to Juan Bosch, democratically elected president of our beloved land, and source or our genuine democracy...
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Constitucion I think ' Dominican Republic of Quisqueya' would be a fantastic official name. Unfortunately not sure many will be willing to put energy into such a campaign with so much else going on.



The "Quisqueya" name pertains to the whole island as a whole, not the Dominican Republic side alone regardless of which side uses it more than the other is irrelevant much like the we have accepted to adopt the name "Hispaniola" given to us by European foreign invaders name which refers to the whole island and does not constitute to belong to any of the specific sides alone.
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Constitucion I think ' Dominican Republic of Quisqueya' would be a fantastic official name. Unfortunately not sure many will be willing to put energy into such a campaign with so much else going on.



The "Quisqueya" name pertains to the whole island as a whole, not the Dominican Republic side alone regardless of which side uses it more than the other is irrelevant much like the we have accepted to adopt the name "Hispaniola" given to us by European foreign invaders name which refers to the whole island and does not constitute to belong to any of the specific sides alone.



And so then you would said Haiti's name is illegitimate in the same sense?

Either way, Dominicans proudly call themselves Quisqueyanos regularly, do Haitians?
http://englishquisqueya.ning.com

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Constitucion I think ' Dominican Republic of Quisqueya' would be a fantastic official name. Unfortunately not sure many will be willing to put energy into such a campaign with so much else going on.



The "Quisqueya" name pertains to the whole island as a whole, not the Dominican Republic side alone regardless of which side uses it more than the other is irrelevant much like the we have accepted to adopt the name "Hispaniola" given to us by European foreign invaders name which refers to the whole island and does not constitute to belong to any of the specific sides alone.



And so then you would said Haiti's name is illegitimate in the same sense?

Either way, Dominicans proudly call themselves Quisqueyanos regularly, do Haitians?



Accept and believe it or not,

As facts will tell you that Haiti is originally the indigenous name for the entire Island along with Quisqueya or Bohio. The indigenous natives did not have "Hispaniola" in their vocabulary. Yes, Haitians call themselves "Kiskeya" is what many seem to never be able to bare to phantom or co mprehend that Haitians do as well in the meaning of the sense of the word knowing that Quisqueya or Kiskeya is the name for the entire Island.

Haiti: means in the Taino native tongues "Country of High Mountain."
Quisqueya: means in the Taino native tongues "Fruitful, Prosperous & Rich Land."
Bohio: means in the Taino native tongue "Home or hut" thus "Homeland."
Hispaniola: means in the Spaniard tongue "Little Spain." Hmm, show me an abnormally of something that does not fit in the picture between these names (lol)?

Saint Domingue, Santo Domingo or Dominicana: Are they not European imperialist invaders names given the the Island or not, by say oh both Spain and France? Oh yeah they are! Thus as habitants of the Quisqueya Island that they (Haitians and Dominicans) are on the Island, they too, call themselves that as well regardless of what arguments some may have regarding the matter of who are deemed per marginalized perceptions to be Quisqueyans or not.

So no Haiti is not in the same sense an illegitimate name. If anything, it is more preserving thus giving a sense of honorary favors to the actual indigenous natives given it was, has been the name they had for the island.

P.S: Allow me if I must say this and I hope many of you are mature enough to comprehend in what sense I am saying this to not make a totally whole emotionally resentful argument over this that... Dominicana is in no sense in any native tongue syntax of any relevance to the island in terminology and I did not say that in any way for anyone to start illogical emotional backlashes.
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#60 - Posted 21 September 2009, 8:57 PM
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Well haitians use all the names...

Quiskeya is written Kiskeya...
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