| #21 - Posted 13 June 2009, 8:22 PM | |
Location: United States, The Greatest City Join date: March 2008 Member #: 469 Posts: 1156 | RE: Airbus, American Airlines flight 587, and other observations. Mr. Lembert, I am a little confused by what you are trying to convey and ask you to pardon my ignorance in advance. The N.T.S.B. had concluded that the tragedy incured in AA flight 587 was caused by pilot error as the First Officer tried to use the rear stabilizer of the airplane too vigorously when trying to right the jet after it was caught in the turbulence created by the take off of a bigger jet in it's flight path. The First Officer was instructed to use this type of maneuver during pilot training at AA (since this tragedy all AA pilots certified to fly this craft have been re-trained.) This over-use of the rear stabilizer caused the plane to lose it's tail section causing the craft to lose all aerodynamic principles and crash below without the hopes of any survivability. The US Airways flight 1549 was felled by a cataclysmic double engine bird strike that would have had the same effect on any similar sized jet plane regardless of the aero or engine manufacture. These two incidents do not lend any doubt to the excellent track record of the Airbus A300 series airplanes. A point insisted on by my neighbor who is certified on this aircraft and has been an AA pilot for over 22 years. Is it your contention that the US and other world governments as well as the federal agencies that govern air travel are unlawfully and immorally promoting Airbus at the expense of safety and human life. Are the pilots in on this and are they being forced to fly the planes against their better judgement for some unexplained reasons. Do you have anything other than your observances that you may commit to quantify these allegations? Edited on 6/13/2009 8:23 PM by devin11. |
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| #22 - Posted 13 June 2009, 9:20 PM | |
Location: United Kingdom, Dominican Republic Join date: August 2008 Member #: 1307 Posts: 10351 | RE: Airbus, American Airlines flight 587, and other observations. Quote: devin11 previously said: Mr. Lembert, I am a little confused by what you are trying to convey and ask you to pardon my ignorance in advance. The N.T.S.B. had concluded that the tragedy incured in AA flight 587 was caused by pilot error as the First Officer tried to use the rear stabilizer of the airplane too vigorously when trying to right the jet after it was caught in the turbulence created by the take off of a bigger jet in it's flight path. The First Officer was instructed to use this type of maneuver during pilot training at AA (since this tragedy all AA pilots certified to fly this craft have been re-trained.) This over-use of the rear stabilizer caused the plane to lose it's tail section causing the craft to lose all aerodynamic principles and crash below without the hopes of any survivability. The US Airways flight 1549 was felled by a cataclysmic double engine bird strike that would have had the same effect on any similar sized jet plane regardless of the aero or engine manufacture. These two incidents do not lend any doubt to the excellent track record of the Airbus A300 series airplanes. A point insisted on by my neighbor who is certified on this aircraft and has been an AA pilot for over 22 years. Is it your contention that the US and other world governments as well as the federal agencies that govern air travel are unlawfully and immorally promoting Airbus at the expense of safety and human life. Are the pilots in on this and are they being forced to fly the planes against their better judgement for some unexplained reasons. Do you have anything other than your observances that you may commit to quantify these allegations? There are thousands and thousands of Airbus aircraft flying. http://www.airbus.com/en/presscentre/pressreleases/pressreleases_items/07_10_11_grupo_marsans.html The A380 will bring a new era in air travel. S. |
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| #23 - Posted 13 June 2009, 9:53 PM | |
Location: Spain, Ibiza, Minorca, Mallorca Join date: May 2008 Member #: 827 Posts: 1811 | Quote: Is it your contention that the US and other world governments as well as the federal agencies that govern air travel are unlawfully and immorally promoting Airbus at the expense of safety and human life. Are the pilots in on this and are they being forced to fly the planes against their better judgement for some unexplained reasons. Do you have anything other than your observances that you may commit to quantify these allegations? Devin11: Yo lo que digo es que "deben" investigar mas! Eso es todo. There's more to truth than just FAA findings, 911 Commissions findings, and even, yes I'll bring in the argument.... Warren Commission into the analogy to illustrate that the findings produced for mass consumption are not neccessarily the factual truth. It's that simple! ![]() I am not suspicious of governments, manufacturer's of planes, the EU, or CIA. What I am concerned about are people who live their lives with blinders like the horses on the carriges at Central Park. They swallow the "party line". Folks you can't continue to believe all the "news that's fit to print". Some of that news is actually a "noose" to enslave your minds and bodies into believing fallacies. In the middle ages the Kingdoms and "the protector of the world" (status quo) the catholic Church kept the whole world believing myths such as that the world was flat. It persecuted and even killed those scientists that through their experiments and knowledge had discovered the "real"truth"; Such men were Copernicus and Galileo. Need we continue to 'believe' those that will have us believe that the world is flat? As they kept the whole world in submission through their 'bulls" and "edicts". No one knows what the truth is, except what they tell you is the truth? Just because they said so? This is the case: Inquiring minds want to know. No more, Yes sir can I have another! I don't claim to have the last word on the subject, or to be suspicious of the entities you and I have mentioned. But, por favor, don't believe all the propaganda they put out to be gospel truth. That's all this was Devin11. This is just an observation of facts with dates and model numbers. Those that read into it can judge for themselves if their is an actual trend or tendency. That's all! The Holy Inquisiton is almost here, again. This time by "popular demand". They want the truth! By any means necessary.....The end justifies the means....Jesuit mottos. Edited on 6/13/2009 10:00 PM by ArsenioALembertJr. Cyberanonymity, the usual M.O. of the trolls and trollops. ![]() Dios, Patria y Libertad. Maranatha, The King is coming. |
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| #24 - Posted 13 June 2009, 10:28 PM | |
Location: Canada, home safe Join date: January 2008 Member #: 268 Posts: 2788 | RE: Airbus, American Airlines flight 587, and other observations. Interesting some people are 'fond' of conspiracy theories. As far as I am concerned most conspiracies are human natural defense mechanism that take comfort in explainnng the unexplainable. Conspiracies rule the world thoughout history there are several example out there ect... I do not pretend to have the answer, however one should seek the information instead of being passively informed. We must accept finite disappointment, but never lose infinite hope. |
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| #25 - Posted 18 June 2009, 3:32 PM | |
Location: United Kingdom, Dominican Republic Join date: August 2008 Member #: 1307 Posts: 10351 | RE: Airbus, American Airlines flight 587, and other observations. Quote: antonioj previously said: Interesting some people are 'fond' of conspiracy theories. As far as I am concerned most conspiracies are human natural defense mechanism that take comfort in explainnng the unexplainable. Conspiracies rule the world thoughout history there are several example out there ect... I do not pretend to have the answer, however one should seek the information instead of being passively informed. There you go Amerikan pilots are dropping like flies! http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/us_pilot_dies;_ylt=Ao8lVeVFPluNZoOqXSXXPlGMwfIE;_ylu=X3oDMTI4MmV0cDE0BGFzc2V0Ay9hcC91c19waWxvdF9kaWVzBGNwb3MDMwRwb3MDMwRzZWMDeW5fdG9wX3N0b3JpZXMEc2xrA3BpbG90ZGllc21pZA-- S. |
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| #26 - Posted 30 June 2009, 1:35 AM | |
Location: Spain, Ibiza, Minorca, Mallorca Join date: May 2008 Member #: 827 Posts: 1811 | Yemeni Airliner with 150 People Crashes in Comoros By VOA News 30 June 2009 Yemeni and Comoran officials say an airplane belonging to Yemen's national carrier, Yemenia Air, has crashed in the Indian Ocean archipelago with 150 people on board. Officials say the accident occurred early Tuesday. The location of the crash is not known, and it is also not clear if there are any survivors. The Associated Press repots a Yemeni airport official saying that most of the passengers onboard the airplane, reported to be an Airbus 310, were Comoros residents returning from Paris. Reuters News reports a Comoran police source saying the island chain has no sea rescue capabilities. The Comoros is made up of three islands about 300 kilometers northwest of Madagascar, in the Mozambique channel. Some information for this report was provided by AFP, AP and Reuters. Source: http://www.voanews.com/english/2009-06-30-voa2.cfm Cyberanonymity, the usual M.O. of the trolls and trollops. ![]() Dios, Patria y Libertad. Maranatha, The King is coming. |
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The Associated Press repots a Yemeni airport official saying that most of the passengers onboard the airplane, reported to be an Airbus 310, were Comoros residents returning from Paris.