| #21 - Posted 26 December 2011, 12:10 PM | |
Location: France, Paris Join date: January 2010 Member #: 4471 Posts: 651 | RE: Killuminati Quote: Guarocuya previously said: Quote: Nehesy previously said: It's a delicate subject. Illuminati = Conspiracy theory or not ? Secret societies exist since the beginning manking history . Egypt being the civilization where secret societies (the priests, including the Pharoah who was the 1st priest of the country) were very important in people’s life : > Religion, Magy, Chemistry (The word Chemistry is derived from the original name of Egypt i.e Kemet), Astronomy, Medecine, Philosophy (Greeks learned from them) , Geometry (Thales studied 22 yrs among the Egyptian priests, like many Greeks)., craftsmen etc > This is why the Freemasons use the Pyramid symbol (still nowadays, no modern science can reproduce the Pyramids of Gizeh i.e. secret of ancient times) and also to refer to the higher knowledge of ancient Egyptians secret societies. Even if their "Prophet" is Hiram the Phoenician - Ancient Egyptians used to say that the founders of their civilization were craftsmen (blacksmiths), the Shemsu Hor - In medieval Europe you had also secret societies (religious, or others like the Templars , Malta order during the crusades, or the Hospitalers). - In Spain you had the Order of Alcantara (to fight the moors, Nicolas Ovando, governor of la Hispaniola, was a knight of this order ) etc. - Ancient and Modern Africa is full of ancient secret societies. In the new world African slaves had their own secret societies (mainly religious, Lydia Cabrera, Fernando Ortiz, Roger Bastide, Alfred Métraux). - In the 21 st centuries you have many secret societies in Europe, and in North America My point is that since the beginning of time, there are secret societies among mankind and they don’t welcome any common people. Each individual belonging to that society l must be “checked” before, then initiated to some rituals, believes, writings, philosophy etc in order to fulfil their projects/goals. Some of them may have contributed to a better life, others only contributed to spread mischief over mankind. 1. Older of Alcantara for instance, was created during the moors occupation of Spain : their purpose kicking out the moors from their Christian country. Which is a good cause you fight for your independence. On the other side Ovando destroyed many Tainos in La Hispaniola 2. The Portuguese governors of Angola who kidnapped African slaves (with their African traitor allies whom they provided powder and guns) in that country (see Hugh Thomas) were most of them from The Order of Malta (Luis Mendes de Vasconcellos, the Grand Master of this order was also a governor of Angola) 3. Ancient Egyptians used what we call nowadays "Gun Powder" (not invented by Chinese as told everywhere) for religious rituals. Others used it to create guns/bullets and conquer other people/continents Nowadays we still have secret societies (at home and international) with selected peoples: * Wealthy * Bankers * CEO of Multinationals * Media Moguls * Politics * Ancient executives of International Organisations like (United Nations, European Central Bank, BIS etc) I have two names in Mind : 1. Bilderberg Group 2. Trilateral Commission 1. Why the 2 secret societies cited above, don’t open the doors to us common people? 2. If they do something correct, beneficial to all mankind, why are we not allowed to know what is discussed and decided? - Bush Jr and Kerry belonged both of them to the Skull and Bones secret society, one being "Republican" the other "Democrat". - In France most of the deputies / politics are freemasons, “fight” each other during the daily assembly, and call each other “My Brother” in their Freemason Temple during their meetings > If we look at the new prime minister of Italy and the new president of Greece : - Both of them worked as high executive bankers for Goldman and Sachs ( a bank who financed the nazis and Hitler...But were not presented at Nuremberg) - Each of them belong to one of the 2 secret societies above Coincidence ? May be , May be Not . Magnifique, Nehesy! Vous connait la verite. Now we must add to your list the Vatican and their militant order Les Jesuites: Jean Le Rond, Voltaire, Diderot, Robespierre, Napoleon I, Compte Alexis De Tocqueville, Les Jacobins; Loge Les Neuf Sœurs, The Club of Rome, ordo templi orientis, Rothschilds, The Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion, Rhodes Scholarships, KKK, Knights of Colombus, Rotary Club, Albert Pike and Guisseppe Massini, The Hell Fire Club, rosicrucians, ... This is just the begining of the rabbit hole that leads to this ancient, yet, very active conspiracy; It's the outer skin of the onion which at its core is a satanic plan to unite the whole world into one tyrannical government ruled by force where - no one can 'survive' unless they are a willing participant of this opressive regime. Maestro, Vous en savez plus que moi c'est sûr. In your list I only knew about Robespierre, Jacobins, Rothchilds; Pike and Massini. In France the freemasons were responsible of the 1789 revolution. And this revolution freed the Jacobins ( know what I mean...). Now I work in a business where if you're not one of them (freemasons, secret societies) , NEVER/ EVER you'll be on the top. 1. I'd say that bankers are the worst cause they finance the wars , provoke economic/financial crisis and "re-shape" countries (WW1, WW2, Eastern Europe in the 90s) 2. Then high skilled lawyers create laws to allow them/ or the ruling class to FU people : the Founding fathers (most of them freemasons and high skilled lawyers) created a constitution not for the common american guy but for their own interests : landowners, wealthy people, bankers, lawyers 3. Multinationals (specially those focused in commodities : Gas, Oil, Diamonds, Coltan, Gold ) are the worst criminals ever - Wars in Africa : in RDC/Congo one of the wealthiest area in Africa - Darfur is not a religious problem (since Darfur is FULL of muslims) but an Oil problem Few people know that the FED has never been "federal" but belong to private bankers : it's well documented.... They're the most dangerous MF down earth if you speak too loud they kill you or cause troubles in your life ( like the rapper DMX...) > One world government project has already started in Europe, under false economic partnership claims : few facts - More than 20 countries in Europe, without borders (if you're European) , and a single common currency : Euro... - Germany still remains the most powerful country in that Area - English never wanted to participate in that mess (give up the pound sterling) - Prices have never been so high in Europe - European union has been created under American lead...Like communism was financed/ created by American Bankers money - One of the European union Founding Fathers was Konrad Adenauer ( who was also a Nazi soldier ) see Bryan Mark Rigg http://www.amazon.com/Hitlers-Jewish-Soldiers-Descent-Military/dp/0700613587/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1324914460&sr=1-1 One of my favorite American historian ( he doesn't speak of Illuminatis or secret societies) but doesnt' beat around the bush : straight to the point , is Pr Howard Zinn http://www.amazon.com/Peoples-History-United-States-1492-Present/dp/0060528370 JFK said : "The very word "'secrecy'" is repugnant in a free and open society; and we are as a people inherently and historically opposed to secret societies, to secret oaths and to secret proceedings. We decided long ago that the dangers of excessive and unwarranted concealment of pertinent facts far outweighed the dangers which are cited to justify it. Even today, there is little value in opposing the threat of a closed society by imitating its arbitrary restrictions. Even today, there is little value in insuring the survival of our nation if our traditions do not survive with it. And there is very grave danger that an announced need for increased security will be seized upon by those anxious to expand its meaning to the very limits of official censorship and concealment. That I do not intend to permit to the extent that it is in my control. And no official of my Administration, whether his rank is high or low, civilian or military, should interpret my words here tonight as an excuse to censor the news, to stifle dissent, to cover up our mistakes or to withhold from the press and the public the facts they deserve to know." - John F. Kennedy, New York City, April 27, 1961 These are words coming from a former president of the United States in position, not a common parano punk looking for conspiration everywhere. Edited on 12/27/2011 6:17 AM by Nehesy. Tatico Henriquez es el mejor !!!! |
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| #22 - Posted 20 January 2012, 1:40 PM | |
Location: United States Join date: January 2012 Member #: 9968 Posts: 152 | RE: Rapper N-bombs poet pal Quote: yumnuk3 previously said: This pretty much sums up my thoughts on the matter yeah. good clip man. as far as common he's just trying to make money and stay true to himself. it's not easy for rappers to stay positive and make money. record companies, radio stations and tv won't give you play. when there's a controversy about it, they'll let two or three videos in until it quiets down then back to "ruin the hood, don't raise it." his latest is his beef with drake. here is an article: Common Explains Where Beef With Drake Stems From The battle between Drake and Common has been the talk of the blogosphere lately and with the latter’s recently released dis track over Rick Ross’ “Stay Schemin,” one has to wonder where the animosity stems from. Last night, Common appeared on Sirius Hip-Hop Nation radio show on which he clarified the battle between he and Drake is not because of Serena Williams, instead, “I got in this because it’s hip-hop,” he explained. “I was speaking up on the song ‘Sweet’ about, over and over we’re hearing a lot of singing,” he continued. “I listen to R&B, I listen to good R&B and soul music, so I’m not opposed to singing. I’ma be frank about that. But I just spoke up for the art of hip-hop and what I feel about it. Once he said something back, that’s when I said, ‘aight, I guess you want to get in a battle with me. And if that’s what you want, then I’ll battle.’” Common also professed that despite the battle, he didn’t intentionally mean to dis Drizzy on “Sweet.” “I was like, ‘well, I wasn’t trying to address you specifically, but if you feel like you are that person and if you’re addressing this to me, then I have to address you back.’” As of press time, Drake has yet to speak on the issue. Common’s The Dreamer, The Believer is available now. —Ralph Bristout http://www.xxlmag.com/news/2012/01/common-explains-where-beef-with-drake-stems-from/ things change too. that's also a part of it. when you were young you're parents and people from their generation said that wasn't music as far as what you were listening to also. can't expect rap to stay in one place any more than anything else. the entire world has changed since common first came out including how we get our music. but positivity is not what record companies want to push. that's for sure. why? i'm sure there are lots of answers and money is right at the top of the list. |
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| #23 - Posted 20 January 2012, 3:44 PM | |
Location: United States, In the place to be Join date: August 2010 Member #: 5620 Posts: 1137 | Quote: grapeape: things change too. that's also a part of it. when you were young you're parents and people from their generation said that wasn't music as far as what you were listening to also. can't expect rap to stay in one place any more than anything else. the entire world has changed since common first came out including how we get our music. but positivity is not what record companies want to push. that's for sure. why? i'm sure there are lots of answers and money is right at the top of the list. Besides the natural occurring changes, which is a fact of existence: You think it's just a case of "money talks and bullsh_t walks." Maybe? Well, since the dawn of time people have done a myriad of things for money. I think that the original article that started this thread was referring to - is that the rapper Common has somehow begun to flash the occult symbols that are so popular now. I guess in contrast to his previous persona or character. It seemed (to the writer of the article) that Common is into what JayZ and Kanye West are into, the secret society new age 'we run the world' mantra. Which if you aren't part of the inner circle you get no air-play; and that is a fact. Just look at all the rappers that fall by the wayside, or that never make it down-town (neighborhood mix-tape pros). Quote: First, on November 13, 2011, Common posted the following message on his Twitter page: ![]() Really, Common? 6-6-6?!?! Quote: The latest thing to trigger intrigue is the cover artwork for Common’s next album set to drop December 2011, The Dreamer/The Believer: ![]() Things naturally change. But, when you start talking about 666 and using occult symbols on your CD Covers you can turn off some of your fans if they aren't into that 'new age force' philosophy. ![]() ![]() |
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