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UGLY IN MANY EYES, BUT STILL HERE BEAUTIFULLY:
WE ARE UGLY, BUT WE ARE STILL HERE
By Edwidge Danticat
The Caribbean Writer, Volume 10 (1996)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YhMk6X3VBrE

One of the first people murdered on our land was a queen. Her name was Anacaona and she was an Arawak Indian. She was a poet, dancer, and even a painter. She ruled over the western part of an island so lush and green that the Arawaks called it Ayiti land of high. When the Spaniards came from across the sea to look for gold, Anacaona was one of their first victims. She was raped and killed and her village pillaged in a tradition of ongoing cruelty and atrocity. Anacaona's land is now the poorest country in the Western hemisphere, a place of continuous political unrest.

When they were enslaved, our foremothers believed that when they died their spirits would return to Africa, most specifically to a peaceful land we call Guinin, where gods and goddesses live. The women who came before me were women who spoke half of one language and half another. They spoke the French and Spanish of their captors mixed in with their own African language. These women seemed to be speaking in tongue when they prayed to their old gods, the ancient African spirits. Even though they were afraid that their old deities would no longer understand them, they invented a new language our Creole patois with which to describe their new surroundings, a language from which colorful phrases blossomed to fit the desperate circumstances. When these women greeted each other, they found themselves speaking in codes.

How are we today, Sister?
-I am ugly, but I am here.


My grandmother believed that if a life is lost, then another one springs up replanted somewhere else, the next life even stronger than the last. She believed that no one really dies as long as someone remembers, someone who will acknowledge that this person had in spite of everything been here. We are part of an endless circle, the daughters of Anacaona. We have stumbled, but have not fallen. We are ill-favored, but we still endure. Every once in a while, we must scream this as far as the wind can carry our voices: We are ugly, but we are here! And here to stay.

**Definitely read the complete article @ http://www.htfhaiti.org/wereugly.html Edwidge Danticat, from Haiti: She speaks ten languages, published Krik? Krak (1995) and Breath, Eyes, Memory (1995) and "The Farming of Bones" She came to the United States when she was twelve years old. However, her heart and soul remain tied to the country she remembers well, and has often revisited to renew her spirit. In "We're Ugly, but We're Here", Edwidge gives us an intimate look at her people's experience through her own eyes. She won a Pushcart Prize for a story in the Caribbean Writer in 1994 and also was a recipient of the Canute A. Brodhurst Prize for fiction.
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#2 - Posted 27 April 2008, 10:14 PM
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IF THE HYPOCRISY FITS, WEAR THE BLAME TOO.
IF THE HYPOCRISY FITS, WEAR THE BLAME TOO.
By Wilgeens Rosenberg
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Washington, thus the United States, deserves a great share of the blame for Haiti's political crisis. Here is why and how, and it starts with a very basic simple notion. When building a Country's Fundamental, foundations must be first established. Some foundation fundamental processes are visible and some clearly are not. Nevertheless and as expected, the deeper the wounds of a unstable Country the more complex the feasible solution may be and the longer it may require to achieve a respectable level of political integrity in such Country thus in this case Haiti which has not been a Democratically oriented system in decades and perhaps never was.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zZiVYVoy8QA

The U.S in their promotion campaign around the world have always had an hypocritical twist as to where they focus their determination for such Democracy to succeed and most importantly it is rather about who can afford it since to the Unites States it has always been an investment matter than it ever has been a moral one period. Their level of obligations to see democracy succeed anywhere they have intervene exist only when and where there is profitable interests to gain. Once again, in Haiti's case natural resources such as oil, much of gold among other resources is greatly lacking, thus Haiti's dependency on the United states to successfully become democratically prosperous is bound to no eventuality prospects to ever really happen in Haiti especially given Haiti is a black Country which most of the other European descendent Countries hold great resentments toward such a Nations such as Haiti which goes back from their not recognizing Haiti to intentional pledged vows to make sure a black independent black republic such as Haiti sees its demise that it is facing today.

The International bodies undeniably have always been contributing to Haiti's plight for centuries and decades and now more so than ever having always been the imposing divisive and quite influential corruptive particles of Haiti's political management and yes the dignity and integrity of the Haitian politicians are always in question given they have always allowed the manipulation of the of Foreign particles to lure them astray which seems to always geared toward taking Haiti away from its path to ever become a self-sufficient nation. Providing much of all evidence within the Haitian political arena, there have been compelling proof of the U.S involvements at the highest level of the US Government in inciting instability in Haiti from funding, providing and supporting criminal gangs, corrupted police members and rebel groups to uprise against Haitian Governments as well as having done before of always putting many Haitian Governments under many political pressure to make certain decision which never benefit Haiti and its people thus always feeding the International Committee purpose at keeping the Nation of Haiti at a destabilizing status and State.

For a prime example, the US-created and supported political opposition called the Democratic Convergence. When the Convergence formed its own parallel government, Washington rewarded that coalition by treating those law breakers as equal to the Haiti's president, Jean-Bertrand Aristide. While many Haitians may not favor Aristide but Governmental fundamental Foundations could have started with him and believe and accept it or not, he was succeeding at least ideologically and systematically instilling such a prospect, but it was not visible to eyes of many given the level of impatience of the Haitian people, the lack of participation of the Haitian elite and private sectors as well as Haiti's already deteriorating State of corruptive and foreign manipulative based Governance. Can the United States imagine Al Gore forming his own government because he did not like the result of the 2000 presidential election? Take a look at Mc Cain's hypocritical flip flopping stances on these videos with poor Countries and oil having Countries:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BPyKpcivQYQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=palbo-ilalU


Especially the Bush administration's policy on and toward Haiti have surely led Haiti toward this level of Political jeopardy that it is at now and facing today which has been miserably a US failure of Democracy in Haiti because it is based on a fundamental dislike of Mr. Aristide rather than on the interest of stability in the region itself like the US is adamant at seeing a success for in Iraq.

*FIRST VIDEO*:
http://video.on.nytimes.com/?fr_story=5bd3c00d8555ff48ebc2fa32458db597b19feeb4
*SECOND VIDEO:*
http://video.on.nytimes.com/?fr_story=ec06006c606a8c00e1f81168ddf6417e9bf4d003
*THIRD VIDEO:*
http://video.on.nytimes.com/?fr_story=b800e7335082fdc7ea91bfdef47b994f8a8e0e9a

Thus I have left with you all with these clips of videos above to see for yourself the hypocrisy that exist in the plights Haiti is facing today and where much of the blames lie. If the clips are no playing, click on the links themselves.
Edited on 4/27/2008 10:14 PM by HispanolanoYoSoy.
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#3 - Posted 28 April 2008, 6:36 PM
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"The Tales Of The One And Only Compassionate S1ut."
SHOULD THESE IMAGES STRIKE NERVES:
What Says Of Our Conscience, Much More Our Obligations?
By Wilgeens Rosenberg
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The desire to always want to leave a picture and motion to tell a story has always been a dream to many. Yet, greater is known the pain given one's anticipation and urges to talk faster than the brain. Many have ceased to let the brain do most of their talking, in fact, societies are grown conditioned to believe that words have more effect than our thoughts; when the ability to move jaws itself still comes from the brain.

http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=bRVPoxDgbBo

It requires more strength and a lot more use of one's muscle to talk than to think. Yet, it is also known that very less is accomplished with words alone that are thoughtless thus much of what certain societies do. What has ever heard of "The Tales Of The One And Only Compassionate S1ut"? There within, exist a level of premeditation in one's part though ignored, not yet aware or even denied. Unarguably, much can be said about wary and frail still beautiful Haiti today. Never has existed a "s1ut" with such a compassion and heart being the indication of the word pertains to a "whom, which or what." Oh Haiti that sees humanity is the birth of inspiration when time has not yet believed potentials exist or it was lost.

Haiti, when inhumanity was at a peak to prevail, has given to many instead a reach to phenomenon that instill in Nations that freedom itself has the price and circumstances that many may not be willing to face long after the sacrifice or the anticipated unthinkable that her children will soon set sails and to never bid of their returns. She sees it before they thought it thus she knew the voices of their cowardice promises were never true and would not hold. Even then, she worked the nights and pack their bags for them with inconsolable tears that she dries up at their presence to not let them know her hurt and how much her precious children will be missed no matter how hard it was for her own children to bare the thought before their acts should the image of them leaving never actually strike any nerves... ask again what says of the conscience of her children, much less this turn and time, their obligation to know Haiti Cherie has always needed them home. http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=zZiVYVoy8QA The greater her hurt each summers they were not there for her to feed them the tales of the salty or sweet sun baked "KASSAVA" they never even helped cultivate themselves. So she lets the thoughtful images, though depressing, tell her story of the sacrificing nurture she once was and given to them that they have now forgotten and ceased to keep working for which was much of what made this "KASSAVA" that lives and gives the strength of her in her children that is seeing all over the world today.

As her children lived on with her love, she would then be proud to know that her children have not abandoned her, much worse lost respect for her. Her trust in them is to be earned once more when they come home, back to simplicity of her given tradition that had fed them well... http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=1blT1aM702o

PS: I asked a question earlier above where and when I asked who has heard of "The Tales Of The One And Only Compassionate S1ut." No one should have actually said yes since I invented the question to show or strike curiosity in the mind of most of you to encourage you to read in between the lines as to know the analogy of the word "s1ut" is not the negative thought you have presumed it to be which I am sure you all have discovered if you have fully read and watch the story within the story of the words and video of this so assumed article of mine.
Edited on 4/28/2008 6:37 PM by HispanolanoYoSoy.
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#4 - Posted 29 May 2008, 7:16 PM
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RE: "The Tales Of The One And Only Compassionate S1ut."
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SHOULD THESE IMAGES STRIKE NERVES:
What Says Of Our Conscience, Much More Our Obligations?
By Wilgeens Rosenberg
http://www.HispanolanoYoSoy.skyrock.com
The desire to always want to leave a picture and motion to tell a story has always been a dream to many. Yet, greater is known the pain given one's anticipation and urges to talk faster than the brain. Many have ceased to let the brain do most of their talking, in fact, societies are grown conditioned to believe that words have more effect than our thoughts; when the ability to move jaws itself still comes from the brain.

It requires more strength and a lot more use of one's muscle to talk than to think. Yet, it is also known that very less is accomplished with words alone that are thoughtless thus much of what certain societies do. What has ever heard of "The Tales Of The One And Only Compassionate S1ut"? There within, exist a level of premeditation in one's part though ignored, not yet aware or even denied. Unarguably, much can be said about wary and frail still beautiful Haiti today. Never has existed a "s1ut" with such a compassion and heart being the indication of the word pertains to a "whom, which or what." Oh Haiti that sees humanity is the birth of inspiration when time has not yet believed potentials exist or it was lost.

Haiti, when inhumanity was at a peak to prevail, has given to many instead a reach to phenomenon that instill in Nations that freedom itself has the price and circumstances that many may not be willing to face long after the sacrifice or the anticipated unthinkable that her children will soon set sails and to never bid of their returns. She sees it before they thought it thus she knew the voices of their cowardice promises were never true and would not hold. Even then, she worked the nights and pack their bags for them with inconsolable tears that she dries up at their presence to not let them know her hurt and how much her precious children will be missed no matter how hard it was for her own children to bare the thought before their acts should the image of them leaving never actually strike any nerves... ask again what says of the conscience of her children, much less this turn and time, their obligation to know Haiti Cherie has always needed them home.

The greater her hurt each summers they were not there for her to feed them the tales of the salty or sweet sun baked "KASSAVA" they never even helped cultivate themselves. So she lets the thoughtful images, though depressing, tell her story of the sacrificing nurture she once was and given to them that they have now forgotten and ceased to keep working for which was much of what made this "KASSAVA" that lives and gives the strength of her in her children that is seeing all over the world today.

As her children lived on with her love, she would then be proud to know that her children have not abandoned her, much worse lost respect for her. Her trust in them is to be earned once more when they come home, back to simplicity of her given tradition that had fed them well...

PS: I asked a question earlier above where and when I asked who has heard of "The Tales Of The One And Only Compassionate S1ut." No one should have actually said yes since I invented the question to show or strike curiosity in the mind of most of you to encourage you to read in between the lines as to know the analogy of the word "s1ut" is not the negative thought you have presumed it to be which I am sure you all have discovered if you have fully read and watch the story within the story of the words and video of this so assumed article of mine.



Edited on 5/30/2008 6:47 PM by NègMawon.
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#5 - Posted 30 May 2008, 2:09 PM
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RE: UGLY IN MANY EYES, BUT STILL HERE BEAUTIFULLY:

Anacaona was by all accounts a princess when only the kingdom of Spain held sovereignty over the Island of La Espanola. Haiti or the French for that matter, weren't even on the horizon; In fact you guys were almost two hundred years away from this history...

So do me a favor, STOP claiming to a History that doesn't belong to you.
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RE: UGLY IN MANY EYES, BUT STILL HERE BEAUTIFULLY:
Anacoana grew up in what is now Haiti, so that gives Haitian the rightful claim to her history. I think you need some serious help there Carlos, with what you are trying to do.
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#7 - Posted 30 May 2008, 6:43 PM
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Anacaona was by all accounts a princess when only the kingdom of Spain held sovereignty over the Island of La Espanola. Haiti or the French for that matter, weren't even on the horizon; In fact you guys were almost two hundred years away from this history...

So do me a favor, STOP claiming to a History that doesn't belong to you.


Sure Carlos,

Indeed she was a Princess who married a King or Ruler Chief of a Cacique his name was (Caonabo) who died at sea during his arrest by the Spaniards. She ruled the Cacique after him or that of her brother's Bohechio, thus basically in many others eyes but yours that makes her a what_______ , you putz?



ANACAONA:
By Marie-Denise Douyon.

Taino queen - Born in Yaguana (Today the town of Léogâne, Haiti), the flourishing capital of Xaragua, the most prosperous and heavily populated of the indigenous Taino kingdoms at the time of the European invasion. Anacaona - golden flower in the Taino language - was the younger sister of Béhéchio, king of Xaragua.

She was married to the Taino chief, Caonabo, king of Maguana (the Cibao region), who, in 1494, was kidnapped by Christopher Columbus' troops and deported to Spain. (According to legend, Caonabo died en route to Spain when the Taino captives on board deliberately sank the ship in a last attempt to resist Spanish oppression.) To escape death, Anacaona left Maguana and returned to the western region of Xaragua. In Xaragua, she soon asserted her authority over her brother and ruled as a queen famed for the ballads, ballets, poetry, plays and ornaments of her court. Xaragua was the only Taino kingdom on the island that had not succumbed to Spanish conquest when a new Spanish governor, Nicholas Ovando, arrived with some 2500 troops in 1502. He requested a meeting with Anacaona, and, in 1503, the Queen and chieftains of the province prepared a lavish reception for him and his men.

In the middle of the entertainment, Ovando gave a signal, and the Spanish seized the Xaraguayans, tied them to poles and killed them. Eighty Taino leaders were slaughtered. Anacaona was saved but was captured, and in September 1503 she was taken to Santo Domingo where she was hung.


Do yourself a favor, since I detect you might be a Wikipedia scholar, here are some links and read through them:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anacaona
http://thelouvertureproject.org/index.php?title=Anacaona_-_poem_by_Alfred_Tennyson

More links:
http://rincondominicano.com/historia/aborigenes/anacaona.php
Since you think you are the most savvy Historian, read this book starting from page 38 to 43 then call or argue with the Author by writing your own book. The link is
http://books.google.com/books?id=SNQDAAAAQAAJ&pg=PA38&lpg=PA38&dq=Princess+Anacaona&source=web&ots=wNtCVQAWft&sig=speNkENUijzFLTgI99JRNM8SLzc&hl=en#PPA38,M1

Lastly, I see that you make it your goal to follow my each and every posts I post and and tarnish them with your supremacist racism then later you and other suck ups will turn around and say I am the one who is obsessed with Haitian and Dominican affairs right... Well guess what, all I am going to tell you is -- Sure, whatever you say.

Once again you have enlightened us all with the bliss of your ignorance into making us realized that all that is good from the entire World is from the one and only the Dominican Republic Superpower. Dominicans are holy people, tolerant, giving and innocent. Let us not stop there because DR is the safe haven for everyone and DR has never discriminated against people for their color of their skin. I fact, I let us even say that Trujillo never wanted to Whiten the Dominican Country and that the Parsley Massacre of 20 to 30, 000 Haitians along with dark skin Dominicans never really happened.

PS: Happy and satisfied there buddy, have you gotten what you wanted to hear? DR the New Eutopia and Atlantis known to the World. The ideal exemplary role model and benefactor of Human Rights, Civility and Justice for all human beings ideal for hum and grace of Angels. Yes indeed hear ye, hear ye all be praised and glory to DR and Dominicans the chosen land and people for the return of Christ himself!
Edited on 5/30/2008 7:21 PM by NègMawon.
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RE: UGLY IN MANY EYES, BUT STILL HERE BEAUTIFULLY:
Peoples, there is this new topic thread I started called HYPOCRISY OF DEMOCRACY your opinions are needed on it.
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