| #61 - Posted 21 September 2009, 12:35 PM | |
Location: Puerto Rico, Oso Blanco Rio Piedras Join date: September 2009 Member #: 3578 Posts: 672 | abc, Please stay out of this. You know nothing about aquaculture other than what you googled and your experience in business is non-existant. You are entering the Ultra Spin Zone... |
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| #62 - Posted 21 September 2009, 1:07 PM | |
Location: United Kingdom, Dominican Republic Join date: August 2008 Member #: 1307 Posts: 10194 | RE: Aquaculture, aquafarming or fish farming can eliminate hunger in Dominican Republic? Quote: EnricoRizzo previously said: abc, Please stay out of this. You know nothing about aquaculture other than what you googled and your experience in business is non-existant. Not correct - as a child I used to raise eels - catch them - feed them and than jellied eels very good. My friend ran a fish farm for trout. Eels have a huge conversion ratio. The best thing is to have a dung/compost heap with lots of maggots. Then sieve. Eels are very tolerant of bad water quality Eels love tadpoles and small frogs as food - and of course these can be raised on waste biomatter. Once eels were a staple for the poor..... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jellied_eels When I go to London I still look forward to a plate..... But if you catch them and grow them for a few weeks ...... so good. Yes I have bought the Nagua Tapia but must visit. Its so good that these people have the vision for a chain of fish farms to feed the poor. Bishop, charitable group inaugurate fish farm to feed Caribbean poor NAGUA, Dominican Republic (CNS) -- Watching a Catholic bishop, a Taiwanese ambassador and leaders of an American philanthropic organization release fish into a pond was an exciting moment for 14-year-old Yaritza Ramirez. Clad in the pale blue shirt and skirt that made up the teenager's school uniform, Yaritza, a resident of Nagua, clapped with great enthusiasm along with her fellow classmates as the tilapia and carp were released into one of the many ponds inaugurated in her village April 2. "This is going to help us a lot," she told Catholic News Service through an interpreter. "It's going to bring us food that is good for us, and it will bring us industry that will help us have a better life." About 200 people who live in the northern Dominican village attended the inauguration of the fish-farming ponds. Florida-based Food for the Poor, an international relief and development organization, worked with Bishop Julio Corniel Amaro of Puerto Plata to oversee the $372,000 Rio Baqui Tilapia Farm project. It includes 29 ponds, 10 new houses, a new school and a community center. Taiwan's International Cooperation and Development Fund is teaching the local residents how to run the operation. Unlike some US citizens I am interested in local enterprises and attempt to share relevant information.... http://www.catholicnews.com/data/briefs/cns/20090407.htm Eeels - ymm.... http://www.ngadjonji.bigpondhosting.com/History/history7.html Important for many peoples. S. S. Yes idiot fish farming is a government/charity function. Stupid!. S. |
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| #63 - Posted 21 September 2009, 1:10 PM | |
Location: Puerto Rico, Oso Blanco Rio Piedras Join date: September 2009 Member #: 3578 Posts: 672 | abc, Please stay out of this. You know nothing about aquaculture other than what you googled and your experience in business is non-existant. You are entering the Ultra Spin Zone... |
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| #64 - Posted 21 September 2009, 4:57 PM | |
Location: United States, Del primer Santiago de America....y el mejor!!! Join date: March 2008 Member #: 498 Posts: 750 | RE: Aquaculture, aquafarming or fish farming can eliminate hunger in Dominican Republic? It is stupid to utilize good, nutritious fish like Sardines to raise shrimp. I am looking for alternative fish that would eat a more natural and sustainable feed. As a child in Santiago, I remember a family of 13 that had a large fish tank in their back yard. They raised carps and turtles there in large amounts. These weren't poor people, but they took advantage of their resources to the best of their abilities to supplement their diet. This is an idea that more people, institutions and ONG's should look into. We should use threads like this to spread and share ideas to help people empower themselves, not to insult others. Please lets keep it civil. Quote: abc200 previously said: Quote: Sajomero previously said: Does anyone know how we can get the technical plans for the tanks used in Nagua?? Quote: abc200 previously said: Quote: EnricoRizzo previously said: you need to go to a brain farm guppy brain has spoken! One reason that this field is difficult is that the US; a possible main market, subsidises its producers in many ways. http://www.thefishsite.com/fishnews/10803/aquaculture-grants-available-to-hawaii-operators DR possibly does not have the sophisitcation to impose anti-dumping duties etc. Still local farmed talapia is available at 50 peso/lb I think from Nagua where there are commercial and charity fish farms. http://www.foodforthepoor.org/newsroom/news/04012009.html Recent conference in Nagua. S. I do not know how to obtain - however I have served this fish on several occasions fresh and home frozen - much appreciated. One could hope for a network of these Nagua type fish farms throughtout the DR - of course in some way the price needs to be subsidized for poor people. A problems is feed and its price. Also some forms of feed catching are harmful and non-sustainable. But tepia seems to have better conversion ratio than shrimp and could accept poulltry by-products and insect lavae. Certainly it is criminal now that good protein rich sardines that could easily be canned are used in fish farms as meal to produce shrimp when 1/3 of the world is protein deficient. The conversion ratio is very poor. What do you think? http://cat.inist.fr/?aModele=afficheN&cpsidt=19373076 S. |
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| #65 - Posted 23 September 2009, 3:44 PM | |
Location: United Kingdom, Dominican Republic Join date: August 2008 Member #: 1307 Posts: 10194 | RE: Aquaculture, aquafarming or fish farming can eliminate hunger in Dominican Republic? Quote: Sajomero previously said: It is stupid to utilize good, nutritious fish like Sardines to raise shrimp. I am looking for alternative fish that would eat a more natural and sustainable feed. As a child in Santiago, I remember a family of 13 that had a large fish tank in their back yard. They raised carps and turtles there in large amounts. These weren't poor people, but they took advantage of their resources to the best of their abilities to supplement their diet. This is an idea that more people, institutions and ONG's should look into. We should use threads like this to spread and share ideas to help people empower themselves, not to insult others. Please lets keep it civil. Quote: abc200 previously said: Quote: Sajomero previously said: Does anyone know how we can get the technical plans for the tanks used in Nagua?? Quote: abc200 previously said: Quote: EnricoRizzo previously said: you need to go to a brain farm guppy brain has spoken! One reason that this field is difficult is that the US; a possible main market, subsidises its producers in many ways. http://www.thefishsite.com/fishnews/10803/aquaculture-grants-available-to-hawaii-operators DR possibly does not have the sophisitcation to impose anti-dumping duties etc. Still local farmed talapia is available at 50 peso/lb I think from Nagua where there are commercial and charity fish farms. http://www.foodforthepoor.org/newsroom/news/04012009.html Recent conference in Nagua. S. I do not know how to obtain - however I have served this fish on several occasions fresh and home frozen - much appreciated. One could hope for a network of these Nagua type fish farms throughtout the DR - of course in some way the price needs to be subsidized for poor people. A problems is feed and its price. Also some forms of feed catching are harmful and non-sustainable. But tepia seems to have better conversion ratio than shrimp and could accept poulltry by-products and insect lavae. Certainly it is criminal now that good protein rich sardines that could easily be canned are used in fish farms as meal to produce shrimp when 1/3 of the world is protein deficient. The conversion ratio is very poor. What do you think? http://cat.inist.fr/?aModele=afficheN&cpsidt=19373076 S. Yes carp are omnivorous and can stand low protein diets. http://www.newtonangling.com/documents/Are%20we%20killing%20our%20carp2-1.htm This is good! S. |
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| #66 - Posted 24 September 2009, 12:20 AM | |
Location: United States Join date: June 2008 Member #: 933 Posts: 7529 | RE: Aquaculture, aquafarming or fish farming can eliminate hunger in Dominican Republic? [QUOTE=abc200] [/QUOTE] Yes carp are omnivorous and can stand low protein diets. http://www.newtonangling.com/documents/Are%20we%20killing%20our%20carp2-1.htm This is good! S. [/QUOTE] And Carp breed like wildfire, destroy the ecological balance and force out native species. Sure, that is the species you want in the DR. Proof that dreadlocks is a Bigot ....... what did Cubans do to deserve preferential treatment? they did NOTHING! ......and treat Black people in the most racist of ways.......... the Cubans are just a bunch of uberracist savages, whom they try to avoid, at all costs. |
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| #67 - Posted 24 September 2009, 8:51 AM | |
Location: United Kingdom, Dominican Republic Join date: August 2008 Member #: 1307 Posts: 10194 | RE: Aquaculture, aquafarming or fish farming can eliminate hunger in Dominican Republic? [QUOTE=anthonyC] [QUOTE=abc200] [/QUOTE] Yes carp are omnivorous and can stand low protein diets. http://www.newtonangling.com/documents/Are%20we%20killing%20our%20carp2-1.htm This is good! S. [/QUOTE] And Carp breed like wildfire, destroy the ecological balance and force out native species. Sure, that is the species you want in the DR. [/QUOTE] Eels are big business. http://www.niwa.co.nz/our-science/aquaculture-and-biotechnology/aquaculture-species/eel http://www.flickr.com/photos/fotoosvanrobin/2488789805/ There is I believe some history of cultivation in DR in the past - does anyone have information? S. |
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| #68 - Posted 9 November 2009, 8:19 PM | |
Location: United States, New Haven, CT Join date: June 2009 Member #: 2956 Posts: 102 | RE: Aquaculture, aquafarming or fish farming can eliminate hunger in Dominican Republic? It sounds like a good plan, I've also thought why don't we exploit the sea not just for food, but also for minerals, and even pharmaceutical / biomedical research. In the Bayaguana region of the capital some Japonese investors created shrimp farms in order to capitalize on shrimp production, they spent houndreds of thousands of dollars to create "Viveros" and watering and filtering systems, well just to let you know in six months for some reason the shrimp never grew, and the land is still there nice and clean but with nothing growing in it.... Just a heads up. If a venture of this sort is to be undertaken extra care should be given to protect the eco-santictity of the ocean and its inhabitants, but as soon as a greedy politician finds out he can make money on that all rules and regulations will be by passed so they can rake in a some off the books income. "In order to put an end to injustice, we must first put an end to Impunity" |
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| #69 - Posted 24 December 2009, 3:29 PM | |
Location: Dominican Republic, Houston,Texas y San Francisco, DR Join date: April 2009 Member #: 2555 Posts: 3362 | RE: Aquaculture, aquafarming or fish farming can eliminate hunger in Dominican Republic? Quote: generoso previously said: Quote: generoso previously said: As well be another source of income for our farmers and entrepreneurs? We can develop seafood that's affordable, safe and easier on the environment. We've domesticated chickens and cows and pigs, but we're still hunting wild animals in the ocean. To raise a marine species inland, in a cost effective way, presents an opportunity to change the whole way aquaculture is envisioned in the Dominican Republic. Is this a new opportunity that’s been overlooked for the progress and welfare for our nation? I really appreciate the fine comments and threads, I need all the help I can get cause I am very serious about starting the fish farming business in the DR with other partners for many reasons, a few: 1. To start a profitable, environmentally respectful and healthy source of protein for all Dominicans. 2. To develop a long range and scientifically sound business with the latest technological innovations and free of hormones, additives, mercury and chemically free for healthy and safe to eat fish. 3. To provide a model so that our research and savvy can be duplicated by farmers throughout the island to supplement their income like in other countries. 4. To become less dependent on fish importation which is a significant foreign currency drain to the DR. Maybe check out Aeroponics and hydroponics which are very good business to start in DR too. I have been looking into this area for a little bit now and since our family owns lot of land in the north-central area of the cibao(El guineal) but is just not been used for much. I have been thinking of going that route but don't want to rush into anything first i would like to get more info on it and maybe do my own little testing in my backyard here in USA since i got the space before going full force. Just my own 2 cents here since i have been looking into different opportunities of business in DR. I am very open to many different fields of business which goes from Energy savings solutions for business to agriculture to even some technological type of business like digital media and small web/software development. I'm taking some classes about digital media just to keep my brain working all the time. I always feel that i always need to learn something. Edited on 12/24/2009 3:29 PM by Belly. "People who don't like their beliefs being laughed at shouldn't have such funny beliefs" |
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| #70 - Posted 24 December 2009, 3:37 PM | |
Location: Dominican Republic, Houston,Texas y San Francisco, DR Join date: April 2009 Member #: 2555 Posts: 3362 | RE: Aquaculture, aquafarming or fish farming can eliminate hunger in Dominican Republic? I have been thinking combining all of my background knowledge in different fields from HVAC,Software development and energy savings solutions into something that can be use to run a business with top profit by reducing cost. Reducing cost involves trying new ways and bringing different things together to maybe make up something that is not in DR yet. I always felt that in DR there is everything but most business folks just have a problem combining already existing technology to improve their bottom line. Most people want to bringing the newest and latest by fail to use existing technology to it's full potential. Edited on 12/24/2009 3:46 PM by Belly. "People who don't like their beliefs being laughed at shouldn't have such funny beliefs" |
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