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Shane needs to fight either Mayweather or Cotto. Bypassing either to fight Clottey is not only a cop out, but might end up being a costly mistake for Shane.


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also, after seeing clottey fight Cotto, I would bet on Clottey over Shane,,,,


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"Fight Cotto"......for what?.......Cotto already beat him.

Mayweather would have Shane for dessert.



... sounds like we are all in agreement that all roads lead to defeat for the old vet and welterweight champion Mosley. Anyone care to disagree?

I had a great time watching Mosley demolish the cockroach Margarito, but Mosley is a paper champ waiting to be taken by anyone in the op 5, including Clottey. Cotto has a win over Mosley, he has the best resume in the division, and just edged by the man Shane is rumored to be chasing. And on the sidelines is Mayweather, who Shane already ducked after the Vargas fight by claiming 'his teeth hurt'.

Manny,
This is my problem with boxing, the rules are never ever defined or properly enforced. Margarito and his trainer should be in jail not suspended for a year. They could have caused permanent damage to Cotto's career if not outright killed him. Margarito hit Cotto with real stone hands, what is the difference between this thuggery and the one perpetrated by Luis Resto and Panama Lewis? Resto and Lewis went to jail and so should have Margarito and his trainer.
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Tupapaupa said

Btw, all those Heavyweight you mentioned, in their prime, would've eaten Wladimir for breakast and Vitali for dinner!.

would that have been on the same day?
Without a shadow of a doubt.

Take Riddick Bowe......if we trained properly, wasn't so fucking lazy and came to fight prepared, in my opinion, he could've been much better, yes and I dare say it, much better than Ali.

He would've beaten Wladimir and BEFORE getting out of the ring, could've have beaten Vitali.

That's how talented he was.

The talent was there, but his priorities were all over the place.




Tupap,
I met and spoke to Mr. Bowe at a PAL event after he had become a World Champion. He told me that the hardest thing in the world was to get up at 5 a.m. to do road work with 10 million dollars in the bank. I found that to be a most poignant statement indeed.

Well, Bowe didn't need to tell me that for me to know that after he won the title his priorities went down the toilet.

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#83 - Posted 21 June 2009, 3:49 PM
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Tupapaupa said

Btw, all those Heavyweight you mentioned, in their prime, would've eaten Wladimir for breakast and Vitali for dinner!.

would that have been on the same day?
Without a shadow of a doubt.

Take Riddick Bowe......if we trained properly, wasn't so fucking lazy and came to fight prepared, in my opinion, he could've been much better, yes and I dare say it, much better than Ali.

He would've beaten Wladimir and BEFORE getting out of the ring, could've have beaten Vitali.

That's how talented he was.

The talent was there, but his priorities were all over the place.




Tupap,
I met and spoke to Mr. Bowe at a PAL event after he had become a World Champion. He told me that the hardest thing in the world was to get up at 5 a.m. to do road work with 10 million dollars in the bank. I found that to be a most poignant statement indeed.

Well, Bowe didn't need to tell me that for me to know that after he won the title his priorities went down the toilet.

He is the Carl Pavano of boxing. JAJAJA.


Well Tupap, Mr. Pavano is undergoing a resurgence in his career and sadly Mr. Bowe is looking to make a comeback although his slurs his speech terribly and no state will sanction him. Very sad.
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Margarito hit Cotto with real stone hands, what is the difference between this thuggery and the one perpetrated by Luis Resto and Panama Lewis? Resto and Lewis went to jail and so should have Margarito and his trainer.

Let me tell you what the difference, in my opinion, is:

Those 2 criminals, Resto and Lewis should've gone to prison for 50 years instead of the 2 years and some months they served.....for manslaughter.

They both committed a much bigger crime than Margarito.....granted, Margarito and his trainer should go to prison but their crime was far less "criminal" than the other 2 cowards, Resto and Lewis.

This is what happened to Billy Collins after that fight, on which Panana Lewis, with Resto's acknowledge, not only took most of the gloves padding out, but also put plaster on Resto's "wrap"......Billy Collins:

1- Wasn't able to fight again because of blurred vision,
2- Became an alcoholic,
3- Became a drug user,
4- Couldn't hold a job because boxing was all he knew how to do,
5- Killed hinself 9 months after the fight, when still in his early 20's.!!!.

That's the difference.


Billy Collins after his fight with Resto.



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Margarito hit Cotto with real stone hands, what is the difference between this thuggery and the one perpetrated by Luis Resto and Panama Lewis? Resto and Lewis went to jail and so should have Margarito and his trainer.

[/QUOTE]Let me tell you what the difference, in my opinion, is:

Those 2 criminals, Resto and Lewis should've gone to prison for 50 years instead of the 2 years and some months they served.....for manslaughter.

They both committed a much bigger crime than Margarito.....granted, Margarito and his trainer should go to prison but their crime was far less "criminal" than the other 2 cowards, Resto and Lewis.

This is what happened to Billy Collins after that fight, on which Panana Lewis, with Resto's acknowledge, not only took most of the gloves padding, but also put plaster on Resto's "wrap".

1-Wasn't able to fight again because of blurred vision,
2- Became an alcoholic,
3- Became a drug user,
4- Couldn't hold a job because boxing was all he knew how to do,
5- Killed hinself 9 months after the fight.!!!.

That's the difference.

[IMG]http://i40.tinypic.com/vyxhy8.jpg[/IMG]
Billy Collins after his fight with Resto.



Obviously Billy Collins suffered a much more horrible fate but respectfully I disagree in that the final results do not dismiss the intent of the villainy. The intent was to inflict as much damage as possible as to win the fight without regard to the physical well being of the opponent. That one opponent happened to suffer far more than the other was due more to their fighting styles than any consideration by the perpetrators.
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Glass jaw is true in its own right but let me throw out some names. marvin hagler, wilfredo benitez, iran barkley, juan roldan, sugar ray leonard among many. hearns quality of opposition was among the best of all time.


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You forgot to mention Pepino Cuevas, Virgil Hill, James Kinchen, Randy Shields and Andrew Maynard.


Most of the fighters mentioned could rule The boxing game today

yea pipino cuevas lost the title to hearns and he was recognized as the jaw breaker. virgil hill was around for a long time. i dont take hearns carrera at light heavyweight very seriously though
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8 time world champ in 7 different weight classes.



If Hearns didn't have a glass jaw...we'd be talking about him as one of the top three boxers of All Time, regardless of weight classification.

glass jaw is true in its own right but let me throw out some names. marvin hagler, wilfredo benitez, iran barkley, juan roldan, sugar ray leonard among many. hearns quality of opposition was among the best of all time.

You forgot to mention Pepino Cuevas, Virgil Hill, James Kinchen, Randy Shields and Andrew Maynard.

andrew maynard was the biggest waste of talent to come out of d.c. big crack head
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#88 - Posted 21 June 2009, 5:21 PM
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If Hearns didn't have a glass jaw...we'd be talking about him as one of the top three boxers of All Time, regardless of weight classification.
Let me tell you my opinion about Hearns.

If he weren't so fricking "in a hurry", wanting to knock everybody out in the first round, with his height, reach and talent, he could've been, BY FAAAAAAAAAAAR, the best boxer that ever lived!.

That's my opinion about The Cobra.

What he did to Duran, holly shit, was AMAZING.

5 minutes after getting off the canvas, Duran was still asking "what happened, is the fight over already?".





papa let me quiz you who did he beat to win the middlweight title? yumnuk you are welcome to answer also

Please, don't insult my intelligence.

He won it from the man who beat Tommy Hearns not once but twice, I B.


never intended 2
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If Hearns didn't have a glass jaw...we'd be talking about him as one of the top three boxers of All Time, regardless of weight classification.
Let me tell you my opinion about Hearns.

If he weren't so fricking "in a hurry", wanting to knock everybody out in the first round, with his height, reach and talent, he could've been, BY FAAAAAAAAAAAR, the best boxer that ever lived!.

That's my opinion about The Cobra.

What he did to Duran, holly shit, was AMAZING.

5 minutes after getting off the canvas, Duran was still asking "what happened, is the fight over already?".





papa let me quiz you who did he beat to win the middlweight title? yumnuk you are welcome to answer also

Please, don't insult my intelligence.

He won it from the man who beat Tommy Hearns not once but twice, I B.


never intended 2

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Margarito hit Cotto with real stone hands, what is the difference between this thuggery and the one perpetrated by Luis Resto and Panama Lewis? Resto and Lewis went to jail and so should have Margarito and his trainer.

[/QUOTE]Let me tell you what the difference, in my opinion, is:

Those 2 criminals, Resto and Lewis should've gone to prison for 50 years instead of the 2 years and some months they served.....for manslaughter.

They both committed a much bigger crime than Margarito.....granted, Margarito and his trainer should go to prison but their crime was far less "criminal" than the other 2 cowards, Resto and Lewis.

This is what happened to Billy Collins after that fight, on which Panana Lewis, with Resto's acknowledge, not only took most of the gloves padding, but also put plaster on Resto's "wrap".

1-Wasn't able to fight again because of blurred vision,
2- Became an alcoholic,
3- Became a drug user,
4- Couldn't hold a job because boxing was all he knew how to do,
5- Killed hinself 9 months after the fight.!!!.

That's the difference.

[IMG]http://i40.tinypic.com/vyxhy8.jpg[/IMG]
Billy Collins after his fight with Resto.



Obviously Billy Collins suffered a much more horrible fate but respectfully I disagree in that the final results do not dismiss the intent of the villainy. The intent was to inflict as much damage as possible as to win the fight without regard to the physical well being of the opponent. That one opponent happened to suffer far more than the other was due more to their fighting styles than any consideration by the perpetrators.

[/QUOTE]You are correct......they both did it because they wanted to have an advantage and didn't think about the consequences.
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