I gather you think this cheater deserves to go to the Hall Of Fame?..........even if caught cheating not once but TWICE.

How much you want to bet he will not make if on his first year or eligibility?.

Think Rafael Palmeiro.....who received 11% of the votes needed......out of 75%.

I, for one, hope he never get selected..

He might not make it on his first try, but the thinking behind your position against those players caught using PEDS will not ultimately prevent the truly Great ones from joining the HOF some day. Professional Sports are different and the 100% virginity rule doesn't apply

Manny Ramirez Retires After Testing Positive
By MICHAEL S. SCHMIDT
Published: April 8, 2011


Manny Ramirez, one of the greatest hitters in baseball history, retreated into retirement Friday, opting not to serve a 100-game suspension after he tested positive for a performance-enhancing drug for the third time in his career.


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Manny Ramirez, at Fenway Park in 2008, must serve the 100-game suspension if he wants to return.


The positive test came just two years after he was suspended for 50 games for using a similarly banned substance. That suspension resulted from a positive test in spring training, as did the one that has now led to his retirement.

As a result of the 2009 suspension, Ramirez was subjected to additional testing and a more severe penalty for another drug infraction. But despite the increased risks, Ramirez, who is now 39 and signed a one-year deal in the off-season with the Tampa Bay Rays, was found to have used a banned substance again.

Ramirez’s retirement came on the same day that another famous hitter, Barry Bonds, awaited a verdict in his perjury trial, with a federal jury in San Francisco yet to come to a conclusion as to whether he lied in 2003 when he testified that he never knowingly used steroids.

Bonds and Ramirez were contemporaries, both left fielders destined for the Hall of Fame until they became linked to drugs. While Major League Baseball has made recent strides in cracking down on the use of steroids, the fact that Ramirez and Bonds were both making unwelcome headlines on Friday underscored that the issue of drugs in baseball has hardly faded away.

Under baseball’s drug-testing program, Ramirez will have to serve the 100-game suspension if he changes his mind and decides he wants to play again. But Ramirez’s legendary offensive production has declined markedly ever since the 2009 positive test was disclosed — he was just 1 for 17 at the plate this season and hit just 9 home runs in 2010 — and it would seem unlikely that any team would be interested in luring him back into a uniform.

Ramirez, who was born in the Dominican Republic and attended high school in Manhattan, was selected in the first round of the 1991 draft by the Cleveland Indians. He made his major league debut at 21, quickly establishing himself as a power hitter who could also hit for average.

But he also created an image for himself as a quirky player who could be almost oblivious to what was going on around him — in the clubhouse, for sure, but sometimes it seemed in the field and on the basepaths.

After the 2000 season, he signed a $160 million, eight-year contract with the Boston Red Sox. It was then, in 2003, that he hooked up with the newly signed free agent David Ortiz to form the most fearsome middle of the lineup in baseball.

The Ramirez-Ortiz combination helped propel the Red Sox to a World Series championship in 2004, ending an 86-year drought. Three years later, the two sluggers helped Boston capture another title.

But in 2008, Ramirez began acting out after the Red Sox showed no interest in signing him to a long-term extension. Amid widespread criticism of his behavior, he forced Boston to trade him to the Dodgers in July, where he proceeded to hit .396 for the remainder of the season and led the team to the National League Championship Series.

After that season, the Dodgers rewarded him with a multiyear contract. But the next spring training, a urine sample he produced tested positive, although he was technically suspended for 50 games because of medical documentation that showed he had taken a banned fertility drug linked to steroids.

Two months later, The New York Times reported that he and Ortiz were among the roughly 100 players who tested positive for performance-enhancing drugs during the anonymous testing that baseball conducted in 2003.

On Friday, Ramirez was not around the Rays’ locker room to address the media. But in Boston, Ortiz was forced to address the positive test of his former teammate, one he once went to battle with.

“If you play with Manny Ramirez, I guarantee you’re going to look at a hard-working guy, a guy that tried to get better every day,” Ortiz said. “He got his issues like a lot of people know, but as a player, he did what he was supposed to do.”

The Rays and the Red Sox played each other in spring training, and in those games, Ortiz said, Ramirez “was in the best shape I’ve ever seen.”

But that Ramirez is now gone, along with his 555 home runs, his two rings, his numerous Silver Slugger awards, his 2002 batting championship, his 2004 World Series Most Valuable Player award and his very damaged reputation.

Tyler Kepner contributed reporting from Boston

People don't need to know the "truth behind when, where and what"......the proof is there for all to see.....the loooooooooooser got caught cheating more than once..........what else is there to know?.

People can talk about his accomplishments until their face turn red......but after finishing, they WILL end the conversation with "but he cheated".

What a waste......what an imbecile.

Then again, I always thought he was a dummy.....even before he was caught the first time.

Tupapaupa, i will always give you props for being a straight shooter. it does not matter to you that this guy is your fellow Dominican. you call a spade a spade. right on, brother. keep on being honest

Manny Ramirez, one of the greatest hitters in baseball history, retreated into retirement Friday, opting not to serve a 100-game suspension after he tested positive for a performance-enhancing drug for the third time in his career.

"Instead, the end for Manuel Aristides Ramirez came in a vague, one-paragraph, four-sentence news release, authored by his admirers at Major League Baseball.

That's no way for one of the greatest hitters of all time to take his final bow. But unfortunately for good old Manny Being Manny Ramirez, that bow wasn't all he took."


"Major League Baseball, they're all after those people. They don't play around. They let the players know how tough they're going to be," White Sox manager Ozzie Guillen said. "They say, 'We'll be checking you guys, we'll be monitoring all this stuff.'

"People think Major League Baseball plays around because they have a past," the outspoken Guillen added. "If you get caught, you should be punished, because now we know for the last five or six years they're after this. Any players who do that are taking a risk, a big one, because they even check me. I'm not even playing. I'm glad they're after this."

Still, Guillen acknowledged Ramirez was one of the game's great hitters."



My problem with your stance is that Professional Baseball has never been a Virgin Sport. If so many players and Great ones at that would be out of the HOF

What Baseball will end up doing is calling the Era the Steroid Era and allowing in those players who excelled during that period. Just like the Dead Ball Era or Spit Ball Era and all the other Era's.


ERA ANALYSIS

By Craig Tomarkin

I identified critical changes in scoring patterns over time through baseball history. After I was done, I noticed that these changes strongly corresponded to dates major evolutionary changes in baseball. The numbers have been updated through the 2000 season.

This confirms that the 10 eras of baseball history defined by major rules changes correspond to changes scoring. Other subtle changes in the rules created sub-eras.

Era
Description

Year
Runs/G Change Index

1
National Register

1871


8.0


176

2
Pre Modern Rules - Est. NL

1876


5.6


-29.7%


124

3
Modern Rules

1893


6.0


7.5%


133

4
Dead Ball Era - Est. AL

1901


3.9


-33.3%


86

5
Live Ball Era - Cork

1920


4.8


23.5%


107

6
War Years, Wide K Zone

1942


4.1


-16.0%


90

7
Golden Years - Integration

1947


4.5


9.4%


98

8
Growing Pains

1961


4.0


-10.0%


88

9
Designated Hitter

1973


4.3


6.4%


94

10
Free Movement, Exp II

1993-2000


4.9


14.9%


108
Total

4.5


100

Remarks about the table:

Dread, there's a reason why babosos like vacanos, generoso, laburra, PepeLePuke and other Dominicans here don't like me.......because I say it like it is.

To some of these "people", the DR is perfect and Dominicans can't do no wrong.

God knows how long he has been cheating...........

Therefore, to me, this accomplishments mean NOTHING........

I didn't care for the loser before all this happened because the selfish moron played for himself.....all he cared about was HIS numbers........didn't care for the team or his teammates.........

There's a reason why the jerk, being so good, was traded to so many teams.........you know, you think a guy so good would start and finish his career with only one team, like Jeter.

Not only was the comemierda a problem EVERYWHERE he went, but now we know that most of what he accomplished was with the help of steroid..................

Lets not forget that just because a "thief" got caught "stealing" TODAY, doesn't mean he wasn't "stealing" for YEARS before getting caught.

He was an embarrassment to many when playing, he is a bigger embarrassment NOW.