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#61 - Posted 6 February 2009, 2:50 PM
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Doesn't Vince McMahon bring his wrestling carnival into town occasionally? That crowd is not far off from a heavy metal concert Last time looked like he packed out an arena in SD and did not even bring his 'champions'. So maybe not Iron Maiden but once again this may not be as hopeless as some of you are painting it.
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#62 - Posted 6 February 2009, 5:19 PM
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Doesn't Vince McMahon bring his wrestling carnival into town occasionally? That crowd is not far off from a heavy metal concert Last time looked like he packed out an arena in SD and did not even bring his 'champions'. So maybe not Iron Maiden but once again this may not be as hopeless as some of you are painting it.


Bring a hand full of wrestlers is a big difference than bringing a Mid-Level act like Iron Maiden.


Lets say Iron Maiden is having a concert close to the DR. Say Poerto Rico.

Imagine the cost just of transportation and lodging.
Band, Handlers and roadies. Approx 30 people.
Airfare: $9000
limos: No idea how much that cost in the DR
cars: $1000
trucks; $800
Hotel rooms: $2500
food: $6000
Now add in about 3 containers full of equipment: $2000

You are up to $21,300.00 without even:
Paying for the Band.
Renting the Concert Venue
Security
Workers
Marketing
Printing
INSURANCE.

For a band like Iron Maiden to play in the D.R. you are looking at a Minimum investment of about $250,000

So to just break even you would have to sell 5000 tickets at $50 U.S. Dollars each!
Notice i say SELL. Expect about 500 tickets to be given away for perks, bribes and promotions.
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#63 - Posted 6 February 2009, 5:40 PM
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i never thought the day would come when i would agree with anthonyc on anything (except in motorsports). but he has said three, yes three , things i agree with. firstly, dominicanfor whitewomen, how about following anthonyc's to-do list, and bring a few mega stars here. secondly, bachata is repetitive, and very limited in creativity.(unless there is a large body of work with which i am unfamiliar). and yes, there is no parallel with the blues in terms of artistry; there is no quintessential bachata musician to compare to a blues artist such as Robert Cray, for example. oh God; people are going to string me up now..



Sorry Dread , but I'm going to have dissent with you on the no parallels here.....bcs teh parallells are obvious.. I got the blues term comes from amargue... musica de amargue es la definicion de bachata...

Blues is a very simple compostion based or founded on just three basic chords (Ask any musician).. Bachata is very based in simple forms as well...

As for a pure megabachata star, but there are a few who have paid homage to that music very well, amongst these are Juan Luis, Monchy y Alexandra, Victor 2, AVentura , Sonia Silvestr and more...

And nobody is going to string you up.... there are different kinds of music for different kinds of people.... but to dismiss it as simply non artistic is a crime!

PArticularly, I dont have any bachata's in my ipod, but i did have the oppty to spend time with Luis Diaz, that whilst being a crazy guy , knows alot about music and its history.,.. and he spent the better part of an night talking about the importance of bachata .. which while he was talking I coulndt help thinking , thats our own original 'Blues' !!

well, thats my two cents.

by the way, Cray's best was Smokling Gun cd.. he hasnt reached taht plateu again.

Anthony:

Welcome to the Big Boys Club!! I havent earned my stripes yet.. but i'll take dreads and Jemz place in clawing at you from time to time!! hahahh!!

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Anthony:

Welcome to the Big Boys Club!! I havent earned my stripes yet.. but i'll take dreads and Jemz place in clawing at you from time to time!! hahahh!!



huh?
Dready?

He is just a cute little kitten that I enjoy tormenting.
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anthonyC don't forget McMahon has to bring his pyrotechnics, lighting and camera set-up, TV production staff, and also that gigantic Titantron screen, so his shows involve a bit of logistics as well. I know it's not the same and that's why i agreed maybe not Iron Maiden, but you know if some guy has the money and wants to take some chances on building a scene it is possible.
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#66 - Posted 6 February 2009, 7:18 PM
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Glimmertwin, i guess we have to differ, and that is quite ok. if you are going to speak of musical merit, there is no comparison between the blues and the bachata. there might be megastars in terms of bachata, but not in terms of music in general. to my mind, Stan Getz is the ultimate saxophone player (tenor) of all time. some argue, giving the nod to Coltrane, or others like Coleman Hawkins. but these guys are all on the same level of artistry, so it becomes a matter of preference for stylings. there is no bachata artist that you can put on the same level of musicianship as Cray, or others such as Lightnin Hopkins, or Taj Mahal. who could you equate with BB King? firstly, which of them has mastered an instrument? they can create the appropriate lyrics for the culture, but the music form is limited in artistic bandwidth. it is nice to dance to with a few cocktails, but, if you want eye-popping artistry, such as John Lee Hooker moment, it cannot be found in bachata.
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#67 - Posted 6 February 2009, 7:32 PM
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dread to be fair how long has blues been a popular form and how long has bachata been a popular form? At this point blues has not only begotten genres that are its sons but even grandsons (including some might argue ... heavy rock & metal ) ) That's a lot of time for greats to emerge so it's not a fair comparison.
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#68 - Posted 6 February 2009, 7:41 PM
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actually, Manhattanite, that is a very valid explanation of the issue. it however, buttresses, to some degree, my contention that the level of artistry is way different. maybe longevity has a lot to do with it.
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