| #1 - Posted 1 November 2011, 11:42 AM | |
Location: Dominican Republic Join date: November 2010 Member #: 6273 Posts: 75 | Luis Vargas o Antony Santos??? Let me start off by saying I'm a fan of both Luis Vargas and Antony Santos. (1) But I want to know.... what exactly happened between the two that caused them to be bitter rivals? comments on youtube say that it was something about Antony taking Luis's wife, but since youtube is full of trolls I don't rely too much on it. So if anyone has any details on what exactly occured. (2) BTW, who do you guys think is a better bachatero, with regards to skill and NOT record sales? (3) Also, are you guys aware of any Luis Vargas recordings from the early 80's that may or may not be available online. (I'm referring to songs from before "el tomate", "sin hueso", etc.) **I'm just curious about his life before he became famous.** |
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| #2 - Posted 1 November 2011, 1:48 PM | |
Location: United States, ø„¸¨°º¤ø„¸¸„ø¤º°¨¸„ø¤º°¨ Join date: June 2008 Member #: 926 Posts: 3390 | RE: Luis Vargas o Antony Santos??? The story is very long because Luis dedicate time to teach the art to Anthony, and Santos went on become famous, unreasonable, illogical, and self centered.... And responded by backstabbing, gossip, etc. Anthony is good, but you have to tell the truth ... Luis Vargas "El Rey Supremo" |
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| #3 - Posted 2 November 2011, 8:13 PM | |
Location: United States, OMNIPRESENT. El Cantinero de Jarabacoa. "Aguilucho desde Chiquitito" Join date: March 2009 Member #: 2380 Posts: 5015 | RE: Luis Vargas o Antony Santos??? Quote: yumnuk3 previously said: The story is very long because Luis dedicate time to teach the art to Anthony, and Santos went on become famous, unreasonable, illogical, and self centered.... And responded by backstabbing, gossip, etc. Anthony is good, but you have to tell the truth ... Luis Vargas "El Rey Supremo" Luis Vargas all day!!!!!!!!! Humility triumphs pride! Conocer al cojo sentao! Las Aguilas son Las Aguilas!!!!!!!! |
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| #4 - Posted 2 November 2011, 11:59 PM | |
Location: United States, OMNIPRESENT. El Cantinero de Jarabacoa. "Aguilucho desde Chiquitito" Join date: March 2009 Member #: 2380 Posts: 5015 | RE: Luis Vargas o Antony Santos??? Known for his double-entendres within the lyrics of his songs usually sexually charged, and macho driven content, Luis vargas is one of the most known artists in the genre of bachata in the Dominican Republic. When he first started, Anthony Santos (now known as the top bachatero of the country) was part of his band, and together were among the first artists in the Bachata genre to use the electric guitar, something that changed the sound of bachata in the late 80's. Started by Blas Duran in 1987, (who is credited by introducing multi-track recordings and electric guitar use in the music) the style that was developed and from then on followed by artists in the Northern Dominican frontier, gave new life to the bachata music that was at the point considered the poor mans music due to its simplicity. In 1990 Anthony Santos left the band of Luis Vargas to go on to make his own. The two developed a feud that was on and off, and spoken about both on stage by the artists, and later on the internet by the fans. Luis Vargas used this as a way to call attention to his music not unlike some of todays artists in the rap genre do, even making songs to make fun of his rival such as “El envidioso”, a song that became a major hit for Vargas. Antony Santos, would only take little jabs in his songs at Vargas, but in general was not known for fueling the problems between them. In the documentary “Dominican Blues” (a film about the starts of Bachata), Luis is shown in a festival where he was crowned as the symbolic King, a moniker that he uses until this day “El Rey Supremo” (The supreme King). In this Documentary they also speak on the rumors of Luis Vargas demise, the response and love he got from the fans touched Luis so much he wrote a song about it, he speaks of what happened the night he had a car accident and that while the rumors of his death were wrong, he appreciated the love that his country gave him. Luis Vargas From what it is known, Luis Vargas had been recording Bachata as early as 1982, but not until he started using the new style of doing music in the late 1980s did his talent become widespread. In Dominican Blues, he says to his switch of style that bachata is bachata, and it does not matter what you add to it, take away, how you mix it up, the music bachata can’t be changed from what it is. However, once his style switched, tracks like “El machetazo” and “El tomate” were seen as pilars to the changing sound of the genre. In 1989 the single “La traicionera” helped Vargas accomplish his first large-scale commercial hit with his album “La maravilla” (The wonder). As the years went on, his rival Antony Santos, and by then Raulin Rodriguez as well as others had started to switch their styles, from sexually charged lyrics to more romantic toned music. This switch in focus was getting them success, as well as helped bachata transition from what was then known as “poor peoples music” or music for the lower class into music that everyone could be heard enjoying without fear of being judged. While Luis Vargas has kept some of his raunchy content in some of his songs since, he also trended towards the more romantic side of the genre and with this came his greatest commercial success to date, the semi-romantic tune “Loco de amor”, a bachata released in 1992. Luis Vargas, while not as sought after now as he once was, is still considered one of the great bachata artists of Dominican Republic and continues to make new music and perform. His last CD (as of 2011) entitled “Urbano” was released in 2007. One of his sons (Luisito Vargas) also aspires to become a great Bachata singer and beloved by his country by following his fathers footsteps, will the torch will be passed on? Only time will tell. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Conocer al cojo sentao! Las Aguilas son Las Aguilas!!!!!!!! |
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| #5 - Posted 4 November 2011, 12:07 PM | |
Location: United States, El cuarto bate Join date: March 2009 Member #: 2300 Posts: 10466 | RE: Luis Vargas o Antony Santos??? Only one of them is still selling out every night to the point that it is very tight to dance. No one has had a run like he has. |
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| #6 - Posted 6 November 2011, 1:13 PM | |
Location: Dominican Republic Join date: November 2010 Member #: 6273 Posts: 75 | RE: Luis Vargas o Antony Santos??? Quote: mirabal4ever previously said: Quote: yumnuk3 previously said: The story is very long because Luis dedicate time to teach the art to Anthony, and Santos went on become famous, unreasonable, illogical, and self centered.... And responded by backstabbing, gossip, etc. Anthony is good, but you have to tell the truth ... Luis Vargas "El Rey Supremo" Luis Vargas all day!!!!!!!!! Humility triumphs pride! I have to agree with you on that, Yumnuk and Mirabal. Antony is good, but for me personally, Luis Vargas is better in terms of lyrics. Luis Vargas is more characteristic of what amargue songs are supposed to be (not to take anything away from Antony). I mean songs like "La Traicionera" and others are what I consider real bachata. Here's the follow-up, Recojí La Traicionera: Porque: Mi Morena: Estóy Condenado: Venceré: I also seriously recommend "Que Venga" and "Mala Mujer" from his 1991 album, El Maiz. Also, "Mujer Maliciosa" from his 1989 album, Sin Hueso. Like you said, humility triumphs pride! Edited on 11/6/2011 1:14 PM by Edwin514. |
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| #7 - Posted 8 November 2011, 2:25 AM | |
Location: United States, OMNIPRESENT. El Cantinero de Jarabacoa. "Aguilucho desde Chiquitito" Join date: March 2009 Member #: 2380 Posts: 5015 | RE: Luis Vargas o Antony Santos??? Quote: xwill7 previously said: Only one of them is still selling out every night to the point that it is very tight to dance. No one has had a run like he has. Yes but those same people that are selling out Mayimbe concerts are grooving to the crap of Omega and Sujeto! Edited on 11/8/2011 7:45 AM by mirabal4ever. Conocer al cojo sentao! Las Aguilas son Las Aguilas!!!!!!!! |
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