| #1 - Posted 23 April 2008, 4:50 PM | |
Location: United States, New York City Join date: February 2008 Member #: 336 Posts: 612 | Dominican fighters Any boxing fans on here? Why so few star fighters out of DR? The boxer Joan Guzman is the only truly world class fighter we have out there. The welterweight Delvin Rodriguez is another boxer I have seen, however I don't think he will crack the top ranks of his talent rich division. Haiti has some fighters of note in boxing and martial arts (Berto brothers) . Puerto Rico turns out an elite fighter on a regular basis, Cuba has amateur champions ... I wonder why the lack of interest in DR Personal blog: http://harlequinlocke.livejournal.com News & Opinion feed: http://www.google.com/reader/shared/03443266769684001616 |
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| #2 - Posted 23 April 2008, 9:44 PM | |
Location: United States, New York, NY Join date: December 2007 Member #: 16 Posts: 586 | RE: Dominican fighters I think the DR is starting to cultivate fighters who are working towards world recognition and some like Joan Guzman who has attain the status. Giovanni Lorenzo is also another up and coming boxer. By the way, Manny Paquiao is scared to fight Joan Guzman. That's the one fight were Joan would be under the prime time spot light but Pac-Man's team is scared of Joan lighting quickness. Pac-Man is changing his division to avoid Guzman. Que pendejo!! |
| #3 - Posted 23 April 2008, 10:40 PM | |
Location: United States, New York City Join date: February 2008 Member #: 336 Posts: 612 | RE: Dominican fighters Well considering his last opponent I don't think Pacquiao is scared. Guzman is world-class but so is Juan Manuel Marquez If Guzman fights either of them it would be an instant classic. Personal blog: http://harlequinlocke.livejournal.com News & Opinion feed: http://www.google.com/reader/shared/03443266769684001616 |
| #4 - Posted 24 April 2008, 11:57 AM | |
Location: United States Join date: December 2007 Member #: 4 Posts: 4339 | RE: Dominican fighters maybe one of the reasons for the paucity of world class Dominican boxers is because of the emphasis that the youth place on baseball. if you look at the islands, you will notice that on a per capita basis, the DR produces more world class baseball players than just about every where else. Puerto Rico produces boxers, and Jamaica produces olympic sprinters. i think it is a matter of tradition and focus, but the sociologists should weigh in here. |
| #5 - Posted 24 April 2008, 12:07 PM | |
Location: United States, New York City Join date: April 2008 Member #: 654 Posts: 225 | RE: Dominican fighters Quote: dreadlocks previously said: maybe one of the reasons for the paucity of world class Dominican boxers is because of the emphasis that the youth place on baseball. if you look at the islands, you will notice that on a per capita basis, the DR produces more world class baseball players than just about every where else. Puerto Rico produces boxers, and Jamaica produces olympic sprinters. i think it is a matter of tradition and focus, but the sociologists should weigh in here. It's also a matter of money. Ethnic groups tend to follow where one of their own has made money. That's why in sociology class they gave us the example of the Vietnamese guy who went to L.A. and opened up a doughnut shop. He went back home looking and behaving like a millionnaire. Successive waves of Vietnamese immigrants decided to follow his example. The result? Most doughnut shops in L.A. are run by Vietnamese. |
| #6 - Posted 24 April 2008, 1:10 PM | |
Location: Haiti Join date: January 2008 Member #: 272 Posts: 351 | RE: Dominican fighters I'm a boxing fan and as all of you said the only prime Dominican boxer I've heard of is Joan Guzman whom I've actually seen a few highlights of and he is good. Haiti has produced and been represented by some good boxers such as the American born Berto brothers (notably the undefeated Andre Berto who is considered by most as one of the best and the top welterweight prospect in all of boxing) along with a few others such as Haitian native Joachim Alcine etc. Puerto Rico has dominated and continued to dominate the boxing world in regards to the Caribbean region. I have to admit the DR is world-class in baseball and outshines all other countries in that sport. Hmm..seems as if the DR has such a passion and high regard for baseball that all other sports are generally seen as second-class. Hence the weakness in other sports such as football (soccer). Edited on 4/24/2008 1:15 PM by HAYkickyouintheSHIN. |
| #7 - Posted 24 April 2008, 2:09 PM | |
Location: United States, New York City Join date: February 2008 Member #: 336 Posts: 612 | RE: Dominican fighters We've definitely made our mark in baseball. Hopefully Guzman finishes his career with a few superfights to inspire others. At his weight he can go after Pacquiao, JM Marquez... a few pounds up maybe even Hatton. Mayweather isn't too farfetched either, the pretty boy is a very small welter. In the meantime I guess I'll have to keep rooting for Cotto @ MSG alongside his rabid Rican following! Personal blog: http://harlequinlocke.livejournal.com News & Opinion feed: http://www.google.com/reader/shared/03443266769684001616 |
| #8 - Posted 25 April 2008, 1:41 PM | |
Location: United States Join date: December 2007 Member #: 4 Posts: 4339 | RE: Dominican fighters actually, kickyouintheshin, puerto rico dominates in the lower weight classes in the boxing of the region. i guess that they puerto rican male body is generally smaller than, say, the african american.so while we have seen marvels like wilfredo benitez, felix trinidad, miguel cotto, and a list of others too long to mention, the only heavyweight that readily comes to mind is the lumbering, colorless guy who manages to bore the audience to death in all his fights...i forgot his name. cuba and jamaica produce the heavier weight classes...it would have been great to have see teofilo stevenson fight professionally. jamaica produces the heavier guys, such as lennox lewis, razor ruddock, the late trevor berbick, and the guy who not so long ago kicked roy jones ass. virgin islands has also given us some good stuff, such as emile griffith. all said, the caribbean region rules sport!! |
| #9 - Posted 25 April 2008, 1:50 PM | |
Location: United Kingdom Join date: December 2007 Member #: 8 Posts: 379 | RE: Dominican fighters Quote: dreadlocks previously said: actually, kickyouintheshin, puerto rico dominates in the lower weight classes in the boxing of the region. i guess that they puerto rican male body is generally smaller than, say, the african american.so while we have seen marvels like wilfredo benitez, felix trinidad, miguel cotto, and a list of others too long to mention, the only heavyweight that readily comes to mind is the lumbering, colorless guy who manages to bore the audience to death in all his fights...i forgot his name. cuba and jamaica produce the heavier weight classes...it would have been great to have see teofilo stevenson fight professionally. jamaica produces the heavier guys, such as lennox lewis, razor ruddock, the late trevor berbick, and the guy who not so long ago kicked roy jones ass. virgin islands has also given us some good stuff, such as emile griffith. all said, the caribbean region rules sport!! don't tell a mexican that.....lol whats up mike glad your back Intelligence organizes the world by organizing itself, Jean Piaget |
| #10 - Posted 25 April 2008, 2:02 PM | |
Location: United States, New York City Join date: February 2008 Member #: 336 Posts: 612 | RE: Dominican fighters The good PR fighters seem to be around the welter region, while Mexico and Thailand are lords below 135bs. African-Americans do well across the board, but I'm astonished how they have vanished from the title ranks of the lower weights (though Nate Campbell is a champ at LW, a nice exception). Europe does well 168-175, and unfortunately at HW for now and for the foreseeable future. I look forward to when the Caribbean makes a mark in MMA. Mexican-Americans are doing well in that sport. It is a bit tough as I don't think the expertise exists on the islands, and in the US cities where we have communities the training is expensive. Edited on 4/25/2008 2:04 PM by Manhattanite. Personal blog: http://harlequinlocke.livejournal.com News & Opinion feed: http://www.google.com/reader/shared/03443266769684001616 |