| #1 - Posted 1 May 2009, 3:56 PM | |
Location: Dominican Republic, San Francisco and Houston,Texas Join date: April 2009 Member #: 2555 Posts: 1243 | Dominican and Haiti unification: In The proccess already Here are the facts: In November 15, 1821, several frontier towns near the border with Santo Domingo with large Haitian presence raised the Haitian flag as a show of independence. Dominicans opposing unification with Haiti declared independence from Spain on November 30, 1821.[3] The new nation was known as El Haití Español (Spanish Haiti).[2] On December 1, 1821, the leaders of the new nation resolved to unite Spanish Haiti with Gran Colombia. Monday august 21 1972 Newspaper "El Nacional" After the 1965 revolution DR was facing hard times and in 1972 Haiti proposed top-level negtiations with the Dominican Republic to integrate the 2 countries. The offer was made by Haitian minister Lucker Cambronne when he visited the country the year before. Balaguer offered to review the propossal and get back to them with a desition which later offered and commercial integration but still keep the countries separated. two weeks before this Haiti applied for military assitance from USA sayng the felt threatened by Dominican Republic. USA denied and then the Haitian embassy came out and said that the thread was not real and they are still friends with DR. 2009: Dominican republic constitution now will cover education of every kid even if parent are ilegall immigrants which also applies to adults that go to school at night. This means if the parent is getting deported there is to option he will be separated from the child or he will remain in the country ilegally until a solution is found to the problem. So after this event my thinking is that the DR and Haiti Unification process has started but people forgot what this could cause in the country where Juan Pablo Duarte in one way or other has shown up in different bodies which what Huchi Lora has said before. Whats do you think will happen? Is there going to be a civil war and would Leonel use the Dominican army agaisnt both countries if this would to happen which i think there is a big possibility now after this change to the constitution or would there just be another 1965 case. Edited on 5/1/2009 3:58 PM by Belly. Success is a journey of your life not a stage of your life! by Belly |
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| #2 - Posted 1 May 2009, 4:10 PM | |
Location: United States, Boston, MA Join date: October 2008 Member #: 1466 Posts: 621 | RE: Dominican and Haiti unification: In The proccess already I agree with the education system. It is similar to what the US does with illegal children. But what I do not agree with is unification of both islands as one country. This has nothing to do with Haiti being the other country, but it has to do with the fact that all the hard work and sacrifice that Juan Pablo Duarte and others went through will be put into vain and that is not fair for our ancestors and our respect towards them. Edited on 5/1/2009 4:11 PM by Eriliza. DOMINICAN DOMINICAN DOMINICAN |
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| #3 - Posted 1 May 2009, 4:18 PM | |
Location: Dominican Republic, San Francisco and Houston,Texas Join date: April 2009 Member #: 2555 Posts: 1243 | To clear up some confuse people that keep calling me an old man. I'm only 28 and will be 29 tomorrow sat may 2 so please stop calling me like i'm in the 50s i just happen to read a lot and understand and went to school. Success is a journey of your life not a stage of your life! by Belly |
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| #4 - Posted 1 May 2009, 4:42 PM | |
Location: United States Join date: February 2008 Member #: 336 Posts: 1585 | RE: Dominican and Haiti unification: In The proccess already Quote: "Dominicans and foreigners residing legally in the country have a right to, quality education, on equal conditions and opportunities, without further limitations than those derived from their skills, vocation and aspirations." Belly this says education is guaranteed to legal foreigners, not to everyone. This is from the article on the front page of the site today. |
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| #5 - Posted 1 May 2009, 4:46 PM | |
Location: Dominican Republic, Santo Domingo Join date: December 2007 Member #: 38 Posts: 4364 | RE: Dominican and Haiti unification: In The proccess already Quote: Manhattanite previously said: Quote: "Dominicans and foreigners residing legally in the country have a right to, quality education, on equal conditions and opportunities, without further limitations than those derived from their skills, vocation and aspirations." Belly this says education is guaranteed to legal foreigners, not to everyone. This is from the article on the front page of the site today. The following article says otherwise, Mannie: http://www.clavedigital.com/App_Pages/Portada/Titulares.aspx?id_Articulo=17994 This will be a new source of headaches for the DR, mark my words. Edited on 5/1/2009 4:47 PM by Lautaro. “Since the two rarely come together, anyone compelled to choose will find greater security in being feared than in being loved.” Niccolo Machiavelli |
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| #6 - Posted 1 May 2009, 4:48 PM | |
Location: Dominican Republic, San Francisco and Houston,Texas Join date: April 2009 Member #: 2555 Posts: 1243 | RE: Dominican and Haiti unification: In The proccess already Quote: Manhattanite previously said: Quote: "Dominicans and foreigners residing legally in the country have a right to, quality education, on equal conditions and opportunities, without further limitations than those derived from their skills, vocation and aspirations." Belly this says education is guaranteed to legal foreigners, not to everyone. This is from the article on the front page of the site today. you missed the first part of the article here it goes Santo Domingo .- The Constitution Revisory Assembly last night approved an amendment guaranteeing all children’s right to education, including those of illegal immigrants, a right stipulated in the Universal Declaration of Human Rights. Success is a journey of your life not a stage of your life! by Belly |
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| #7 - Posted 1 May 2009, 5:01 PM | |
Location: Canada, home safe Join date: January 2008 Member #: 268 Posts: 2578 | RE: Dominican and Haiti unification: In The proccess already Quote: Belly previously said: To clear up some confuse people that keep calling me an old man. I'm only 28 and will be 29 tomorrow sat may 2 so please stop calling me like i'm in the 50s i just happen to read a lot and understand and went to school. Belly can you clarify for me how does that compromise DR sovereignty, I thought education is a win win situation, We must accept finite disappointment, but never lose infinite hope. |
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| #8 - Posted 1 May 2009, 5:06 PM | |
Location: Dominican Republic, Santo Domingo Join date: December 2007 Member #: 38 Posts: 4364 | RE: Dominican and Haiti unification: In The proccess already Quote: antonioj previously said: Quote: Belly previously said: To clear up some confuse people that keep calling me an old man. I'm only 28 and will be 29 tomorrow sat may 2 so please stop calling me like i'm in the 50s i just happen to read a lot and understand and went to school. Belly can you clarify for me how does that compromise DR sovereignty, I thought education is a win win situation, Easily, because this could be used as a new pretext to halt any deportation that the state might be planning at the moment, cuz' "you can't separate a child going to school from his/her parents". Worse, the country is ill-equipped in infraestructure to deal with the avalanche that is sure to come when the word gets out "let's come to the DR, where free education will be afforded to our children". Edited on 5/1/2009 5:42 PM by Lautaro. “Since the two rarely come together, anyone compelled to choose will find greater security in being feared than in being loved.” Niccolo Machiavelli |
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| #9 - Posted 1 May 2009, 5:09 PM | |
Location: Dominican Republic, Santo Domingo Join date: December 2007 Member #: 38 Posts: 4364 | RE: Dominican and Haiti unification: In The proccess already Even worse yet, the state will have to use the army to impose the article in some places, cuz' there's no way that private schools and institutions will accept this article without raising a murmur or deep objections. From my point of view, this have all the possibility of becoming a source of civil strife to come. Edited on 5/1/2009 5:10 PM by Lautaro. “Since the two rarely come together, anyone compelled to choose will find greater security in being feared than in being loved.” Niccolo Machiavelli |
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| #10 - Posted 1 May 2009, 5:09 PM | |
Location: United States Join date: February 2008 Member #: 336 Posts: 1585 | RE: Dominican and Haiti unification: In The proccess already Hmmm...well either there is another hatchet job in the articles' translation OR even these legislators don't know what they have proposed Edited on 5/1/2009 5:10 PM by Manhattanite. |
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