| #101 - Posted 13 May 2009, 10:45 AM | |
Location: United States Join date: January 2009 Member #: 1994 Posts: 1150 | RE: Dominican and Haiti unification: In The proccess already Telemeco I Think unification need to happen, this is the only way we could resolve our diferent,,i like the idea of a economic unification to start the process and later own after the population have being educate in bothe country and maybe 2 or 3 generation have past a process of political unification could take places, but here are some question. to have a real integration as a country, only one language must be spoken, what is going to be French or Spanish? Both Haitian culture and Dominican culture must beging integration now, by Haitian music and florklore being introduce into Dominican television and radio so we can begin to undestand their culture. I think the whole history of our country might need to be re-written to avoid future clash, for example intead the Dominican Republic celebrating our independence from haiti,,why not from Spain, which is really what happened and call the haitian invasion and ocupasion and the 1844 uprising called it a restauration of our spanish speaking side of hispaniola What name would the country be name? Hispaniola or hybrid name DomiHaiti?? Gizmo Ha ha don't make me laugh! you bastards invaded us and brought misery to our country. History has been written and it is very clear Dominicans never wanted to be part of Haiti. Spain never attacked us they were part of the fabric of our society, remember you were a virtual slave colony 500,000 slaves vs. 30,000 to 40,000 whites. And you're country went through a slave revolution, and the result was genocide against the French, Dominicans never participated in such crimes it wasn't our revolution it was the "Haitian Revolution" get it!!!!! The Dominican Republic in the colonial period was majority white composed of Spanish and majority white criollos like the founder of the country Juan Pablo Duarte, many left because of the Haitian incursions, but others remained and they composed many of the generals and enlisted soldiers that fought bravely against you're predator nation. So please don't come with your distorted historical views, i already know how you people like to twist the facts, and you aint pulling that crap on me mister. HELL NO TO UNIFICATION HELL NO!!!!! Edited on 5/13/2009 10:46 AM by Gizmo. READ A BOOK FOR REAL! BECOME A BOOKWORM MISTER BEFORE YOU GET SERVED!!!!! |
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| #102 - Posted 13 May 2009, 11:03 AM | |
Location: Dominican Republic, Santo Domingo Join date: December 2007 Member #: 38 Posts: 5734 | RE: Dominican and Haiti unification: In The proccess already Quote: telemeco previously said: I Think unification need to happen, this is the only way we could resolve our diferent,,i like the idea of a economic unification to start the process and later own after the population have being educate in bothe country and maybe 2 or 3 generation have past a process of political unification could take places, but here are some question. to have a real integration as a country, only one language must be spoken, what is going to be French or Spanish? Both Haitian culture and Dominican culture must beging integration now, by Haitian music and florklore being introduce into Dominican television and radio so we can begin to undestand their culture. I think the whole history of our country might need to be re-written to avoid future clash, for example intead the Dominican Republic celebrating our independence from haiti,,why not from Spain, which is really what happened and call the haitian invasion and ocupasion and the 1844 uprising called it a restauration of our spanish speaking side of hispaniola What name would the country be name? Hispaniola or hybrid name DomiHaiti?? It's so easy to post BS when you're living comfortably on another country. Why don't you come to the island and see with your own eyes how chimerical (if not outright lunatic) your ideas are? Edited on 5/13/2009 11:10 AM by Lautaro. "A man who strives after goodness in all his acts is sure to come to ruin, since there are so many men who are not good." Niccolo Macchiavelli - The Prince |
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| #103 - Posted 13 May 2009, 4:28 PM | |
Location: United States Join date: March 2008 Member #: 522 Posts: 5803 | RE: Dominican and Haiti unification: In The proccess already Quote: Lautaro previously said: Quote: telemeco previously said: I Think unification need to happen, this is the only way we could resolve our diferent,,i like the idea of a economic unification to start the process and later own after the population have being educate in bothe country and maybe 2 or 3 generation have past a process of political unification could take places, but here are some question. to have a real integration as a country, only one language must be spoken, what is going to be French or Spanish? Both Haitian culture and Dominican culture must beging integration now, by Haitian music and florklore being introduce into Dominican television and radio so we can begin to undestand their culture. I think the whole history of our country might need to be re-written to avoid future clash, for example intead the Dominican Republic celebrating our independence from haiti,,why not from Spain, which is really what happened and call the haitian invasion and ocupasion and the 1844 uprising called it a restauration of our spanish speaking side of hispaniola What name would the country be name? Hispaniola or hybrid name DomiHaiti?? It's so easy to post BS when you're living comfortably on another country. Why don't you come to the island and see with your own eyes how chimerical (if not outright lunatic) your ideas are? Like I stated in a previous post, in order for a real unification to occur, a new hybrid-mix of Dominico/Haitiano must evolve in which a fusion of both cultures transforms and becomes something else. It will be a gradual metamophosis of countries with a new language (probably a mix of Spanish, Creol, French and English) and new constitution. It is the the birth of a new nation. However, the way we know hispañiola today and the mentality of it's people, a unification would not at all be possible at this present time or near future. No way would two totally different populations make allowances for an integration. However, if things continue and remain as they are, to allow the constant flow and reproduction of Haitians inside Dominican territory, a transcultural transformation is inevitable. That is why I don't believe it will occur in our lifetime, but rather it will develop in a slow, gradual and subtle fashion that will eventually catch us by surprise. People have bad memories and unless we educate and inculcate the conscious of future Dominican generations, they will forget that the Haitians invaded the DR, was our enemy and wanted to kill, burn, destroy, eliminate everything Spanish and anything Dominican. This would be just only one of the ways to help stop this process to germinate further. Otherwise, we will reach the point of no return. Edited on 5/13/2009 4:42 PM by guillermone. |
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| #104 - Posted 13 May 2009, 4:57 PM | |
Location: Dominican Republic Join date: March 2009 Member #: 2266 Posts: 1533 | RE: Dominican and Haiti unification: In The proccess already Quote: oupala07 previously said: I seriously think that you hateros are sleeping with the gas open. Why don't you forget about us for a while the same way we haven't meddled inside your politics since 1844. What you are looking for, you will finally find it, you and the morons that are emboldened your little cat turned lion brain. We don't need you and we do not want you in our country period. You want to send back to us the hundreds of thousands of our nationals spreading throughout your territory? It's fine with us. Send them back, because they will always have a country to go to. However, you better not forget your present days arrogance, because a lot of us won't forget it. Later on, when as usual you will come crawling to our feet for forgiveness, dont be surprise if you receive our boots instead of our hands. Reunification my **s, B**L S*T. Why don't you start taking care of your own people that as as poor as ours all proportion considered? Most Dominicans do not want unification, in fact you have just increased your reputation by declaring yourself anti-unification... |
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| #105 - Posted 13 May 2009, 5:06 PM | |
Location: Dominican Republic Join date: March 2009 Member #: 2266 Posts: 1533 | RE: Dominican and Haiti unification: In The proccess already Quote: guillermone previously said: Quote: Lautaro previously said: Quote: telemeco previously said: I Think unification need to happen, this is the only way we could resolve our diferent,,i like the idea of a economic unification to start the process and later own after the population have being educate in bothe country and maybe 2 or 3 generation have past a process of political unification could take places, but here are some question. to have a real integration as a country, only one language must be spoken, what is going to be French or Spanish? Both Haitian culture and Dominican culture must beging integration now, by Haitian music and florklore being introduce into Dominican television and radio so we can begin to undestand their culture. I think the whole history of our country might need to be re-written to avoid future clash, for example intead the Dominican Republic celebrating our independence from haiti,,why not from Spain, which is really what happened and call the haitian invasion and ocupasion and the 1844 uprising called it a restauration of our spanish speaking side of hispaniola What name would the country be name? Hispaniola or hybrid name DomiHaiti?? It's so easy to post BS when you're living comfortably on another country. Why don't you come to the island and see with your own eyes how chimerical (if not outright lunatic) your ideas are? People have bad memories and unless we educate and inculcate the conscious of future Dominican generations, they will forget that the Haitians invaded the DR, was our enemy and wanted to kill, burn, destroy, eliminate everything Spanish and anything Dominican. This would be just only one of the ways to help stop this process to germinate further. Otherwise, we will reach the point of no return. Integration has been proven to be a failed experiment in USA specially in California and Detroit. when that happens, Dominicans will want to speak Spanish and Haitians will want to speak Creole and it will be just a mess. Lying to our kids would be dishonest and the strongest reason why Dominicans discriminate Haitians is because they are different and it is natural to do so if we lie to them, there will be a type of hidden dislike like in USA where they smile at each other but they are really thinking something different, open racism is better than that crap. |
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| #106 - Posted 14 May 2009, 3:31 PM | |
Location: Dominican Republic, Monte Plata Join date: March 2009 Member #: 2371 Posts: 792 | RE: Dominican and Haiti unification: In The proccess already telemeco previously said: I Think unification need to happen, this is the only way we could resolve our diferent,,i like the idea of a economic unification to start the process and later own after the population have being educate in bothe country and maybe 2 or 3 generation have past a process of political unification could take places, but here are some question. to have a real integration as a country, only one language must be spoken, what is going to be French or Spanish? Both Haitian culture and Dominican culture must beging integration now, by Haitian music and florklore being introduce into Dominican television and radio so we can begin to undestand their culture. I think the whole history of our country might need to be re-written to avoid future clash, for example intead the Dominican Republic celebrating our independence from haiti,,why not from Spain, which is really what happened and call the haitian invasion and ocupasion and the 1844 uprising called it a restauration of our spanish speaking side of hispaniola What name would the country be name? Hispaniola or hybrid name DomiHaiti?? It's so easy to post BS when you're living comfortably on another country. Why don't you come to the island and see with your own eyes how chimerical (if not outright lunatic) your ideas are? Edited on 5/13/2009 11:10 AM by Lautaro. Peace is a lie, there is only passion. Through passion, I gain strength. Through strength, I gain power. Through power, I gain victory. Through victory, my chains are broken. The Force shall free me. —The Sith Code Lautaro,,,this an observation of what could posible happen,,,you need to be pro-active no inactive, which seen to be your way of doing thing, even the spanish you speak today was a language that came from the latin which was spoken by the undesiable poor people of the Roman empire, i have live in the DR most of my life,,,but having your approach would only require to go to mass killing radical isolation of the problem, ( avetrus) i rather face the problem head and find it solution the benefit my people..it easy to talk about you radical thinking but i dont think you have the cojones to do anything about it. I live in a banana republic, discovered by dozens of thieves and criminals, sacked by the mother country and Uncle Sam and then betrayed by dozens of corrupt and inept local leaders . My country Shouts , Cant endure it any more. |
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| #107 - Posted 14 May 2009, 3:40 PM | |
Location: Dominican Republic, Santo Domingo Join date: December 2007 Member #: 38 Posts: 5734 | RE: Dominican and Haiti unification: In The proccess already Quote: telemeco previously said: telemeco previously said: I Think unification need to happen, this is the only way we could resolve our diferent,,i like the idea of a economic unification to start the process and later own after the population have being educate in bothe country and maybe 2 or 3 generation have past a process of political unification could take places, but here are some question. to have a real integration as a country, only one language must be spoken, what is going to be French or Spanish? Both Haitian culture and Dominican culture must beging integration now, by Haitian music and florklore being introduce into Dominican television and radio so we can begin to undestand their culture. I think the whole history of our country might need to be re-written to avoid future clash, for example intead the Dominican Republic celebrating our independence from haiti,,why not from Spain, which is really what happened and call the haitian invasion and ocupasion and the 1844 uprising called it a restauration of our spanish speaking side of hispaniola What name would the country be name? Hispaniola or hybrid name DomiHaiti?? It's so easy to post BS when you're living comfortably on another country. Why don't you come to the island and see with your own eyes how chimerical (if not outright lunatic) your ideas are? Edited on 5/13/2009 11:10 AM by Lautaro. Peace is a lie, there is only passion. Through passion, I gain strength. Through strength, I gain power. Through power, I gain victory. Through victory, my chains are broken. The Force shall free me. —The Sith Code Lautaro,,,this an observation of what could posible happen,,,you need to be pro-active no inactive, which seen to be your way of doing thing, even the spanish you speak today was a language that came from the latin which was spoken by the undesiable poor people of the Roman empire, i have live in the DR most of my life,,,but having your approach would only require to go to mass killing radical isolation of the problem, ( avetrus) i rather face the problem head and find it solution the benefit my people..it easy to talk about you radical thinking but i dont think you have the cojones to do anything about it. As always, you're ASSuming. And you know what people say about someone that does that. My "radical thinking", sir, is to maintain the current status quo of both nations having their own separate spaces on the island. In other words, to help them as much as we can without losing our independence, sovereignity and culture in the process. Is there anything wrong with that? Again, it's easy to preach BS from an ivory tower in a foreign country, why don't you come down to the island and "propose" to the dominican people to lose what their ancestors gave them just for the sake of your inclination to play Mother Teresa? You'd be surprised by the ways they have in rearranging someone's face, even more so when they find themselves with morons trying to sell them idiotic and plain impossible ideas. Maybe your living in relative comfort on the US have made you forget this, but the DR is a Third World country that have been unable to solve its own problems, how the heck you think it would be capable of tackling such monumental ones like the ones Haiti is currently facing at the moment? And most importantly, if the first "unification" experiment failed when Haiti was in a much better position than it is today, and we were so very few that we could have been absorbed, what makes you think that another experiment like that would succeed now, when conditions are far worse than they were back then? As Einstein would say, only fools and imbeciles would keep trying to do the same failed thing over and over again. Edited on 5/14/2009 4:03 PM by Lautaro. "A man who strives after goodness in all his acts is sure to come to ruin, since there are so many men who are not good." Niccolo Macchiavelli - The Prince |
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| #108 - Posted 14 May 2009, 3:58 PM | |
Location: Canada, Montreal Join date: April 2009 Member #: 2474 Posts: 480 | RE: Dominican and Haiti unification: In The proccess already I dont know for sharing same money like europe but other unification is imposible. |
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| #109 - Posted 8 August 2009, 3:34 PM | |
Location: Dominican Republic Join date: July 2009 Member #: 3248 Posts: 180 | RE: Dominican and Haiti unification: In The proccess already Post was deleted (low rank) |
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| #110 - Posted 8 August 2009, 3:39 PM | |
Location: United States Join date: August 2009 Member #: 3278 Posts: 461 | RE: Dominican and Haiti unification: In The proccess already Unification is probably never going to happen. Tout nèg ki renmen libète pa janm vle wè polis.-kreyòl- |
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