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| #41 - Posted 1 August 2009, 1:54 PM | |
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| #42 - Posted 1 August 2009, 2:36 PM | |
 Location: United States Join date: July 2009 Member #: 3155 Posts: 26 | RE: Cement Plant in Los Haitises??? Quote: SoldadoQuisqueyano previously said: Quote: dominicanasunited previously said: Quote: brasilenos4ever previously said: However, for the purpose of completeness, I will continue. Cement plants like the one being built in the D.R. brings significant economic growth to a Country where thousands of its citizens are dirt poor and in need of jobs. In addition to the addition of thousands of jobs, the new plant will have a far-reaching spillover effect throughout a variety of sectors. For example, Capital investment of millions of dollars in buildings, equipment, machinery and site preparation will be enjoyed. Annual fiscal impact will also be in the millions of dollars. Some 1,730 to 2,133 new jobs for Dominicans not Haitians. Operations Phase will also see the creation of jobs in the hundreds for current students enrolled in Dominican Universities in fields related to this type of industry. Also as the only major cement manufacturing plant in the Dominican Republic it will redirect revenue currently spent on importing cement from other countries. The Dominican Republic imported millions of tons of cement in 2003-2007. This will obviously double in the next few years without this Plant. Because the D.R. is a rapidly growing country, current suppliers in neighboring countries cannot meet projected cement needs for the Country. This new Plant being bulit will therefore help ensure that the Dominican Republic will continue to meet demands created by its rapidly growing construction industry. I suggest that when advancing a position the people doing so, put forth clear and concise arguments supported by real evidence instead of the flimsy evidence I see here. Evidence similar to all the other issues I have addressed in this Forum, all of which, like the one here have been rebutted. I say build the plant, create the jobs needed to help energize the Dominican economy. I also say Brasilenos4ever!!!!!!!!!  So are you saying that all the protests are a waste of time?  the girl to the right in your avatar has nice tits The girl on the right is me, tats mi prima on the left and thanks. But I also have a nice head on my shoulders too. I hope you know that too.  Edited on 8/1/2009 2:37 PM by dominicanasunited. |
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| #43 - Posted 1 August 2009, 3:08 PM | |
 Location: Dominican Republic Join date: July 2009 Member #: 3248 Posts: 180 | RE: Cement Plant in Los Haitises??? Quote: SoldadoQuisqueyano previously said: Quote: dominicanasunited previously said: Quote: SoldadoQuisqueyano previously said: Quote: dominicanasunited previously said: Quote: brasilenos4ever previously said: However, for the purpose of completeness, I will continue. Cement plants like the one being built in the D.R. brings significant economic growth to a Country where thousands of its citizens are dirt poor and in need of jobs. In addition to the addition of thousands of jobs, the new plant will have a far-reaching spillover effect throughout a variety of sectors. For example, Capital investment of millions of dollars in buildings, equipment, machinery and site preparation will be enjoyed. Annual fiscal impact will also be in the millions of dollars. Some 1,730 to 2,133 new jobs for Dominicans not Haitians. Operations Phase will also see the creation of jobs in the hundreds for current students enrolled in Dominican Universities in fields related to this type of industry. Also as the only major cement manufacturing plant in the Dominican Republic it will redirect revenue currently spent on importing cement from other countries. The Dominican Republic imported millions of tons of cement in 2003-2007. This will obviously double in the next few years without this Plant. Because the D.R. is a rapidly growing country, current suppliers in neighboring countries cannot meet projected cement needs for the Country. This new Plant being bulit will therefore help ensure that the Dominican Republic will continue to meet demands created by its rapidly growing construction industry. I suggest that when advancing a position the people doing so, put forth clear and concise arguments supported by real evidence instead of the flimsy evidence I see here. Evidence similar to all the other issues I have addressed in this Forum, all of which, like the one here have been rebutted. I say build the plant, create the jobs needed to help energize the Dominican economy. I also say Brasilenos4ever!!!!!!!!! So are you saying that all the protests are a waste of time? the girl to the right in your avatar has nice tits The girl on the right is me, tats mi prima on the left and thanks. But I also have a nice head on my shoulders too. I hope you know that too. sorry if I came off as perverted, im going through puberty at the moment Yeah right!!! You're going thru something at the moment, but it ain't puberty. Go take a hike thru hell. |
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| #44 - Posted 2 August 2009, 3:14 AM | |
 Location: United States, ø„¸¨°º¤ø„¸¸„ø¤º°¨¸„ø¤º°¨ Join date: June 2008 Member #: 926 Posts: 2244 | RE: Cement Plant in Los Haitises??? Quote: ElTorodeCibao previously said: Quote: yumnuk3 previously said: Your signature has the number and suggests email, what is their email as well? embassy@us.serex.gov.do ø„¸¨°º¤ø„¸¸„ø¤º°¨¸„ø¤º°¨ ¨°º¤ø„¸INFINITY„ø¤º°¨ „ø¤º°¨FOREVER`°º¤ø |
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| #45 - Posted 2 August 2009, 2:57 PM | |
Location: Dominican Republic Join date: July 2009 Member #: 3248 Posts: 180 | RE: Cement Plant in Los Haitises??? Quote: yumnuk3 previously said: Quote: ElTorodeCibao previously said: Quote: yumnuk3 previously said: Your signature has the number and suggests email, what is their email as well? embassy@us.serex.gov.do Give me a break, why do'nt you just leave it alone. This cement plant is going to be built. All these protests are nothing but a scam designed by the organizers to shake down this company for money in exchange for halting the protests. This is a normal practice by lazy, crooked dominicans who do'nt work, but spend their time and energy searching for projects to mound protests against. You can send a message to God and you still will not stop this plant from going up. Get a life and get a job. |
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| #46 - Posted 2 August 2009, 3:16 PM | |
 Location: Dominican Republic, Parque Colon statue of Anacaona Join date: April 2009 Member #: 2573 Posts: 3334 |  RE: Cement Plant in Los Haitises???If there is a buck to be made from a shakedown we should be seeing Al Sharpton at any moment  My daughter Yaina aka ". Chucky la Nina Diabolica " |
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| #47 - Posted 2 August 2009, 3:20 PM | |
Location: Dominican Republic Join date: July 2009 Member #: 3248 Posts: 180 | RE: Cement Plant in Los Haitises??? Quote: FredCDobbs previously said: If there is a buck to be made from a shakedown we should be seeing Al Sharpton at any moment Lets not forget about Jesse! |
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| #48 - Posted 3 August 2009, 9:21 AM | |
Location: United States, ø„¸¨°º¤ø„¸¸„ø¤º°¨¸„ø¤º°¨ Join date: June 2008 Member #: 926 Posts: 2244 | RE: Cement Plant in Los Haitises??? Geologists and environmentalists have joined the opposition to the factory, pointing out that Jaime David Mirabal's decision violates more than 20 environmental laws. ø„¸¨°º¤ø„¸¸„ø¤º°¨¸„ø¤º°¨ ¨°º¤ø„¸INFINITY„ø¤º°¨ „ø¤º°¨FOREVER`°º¤ø |
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| #49 - Posted 3 August 2009, 7:55 PM | |
 Location: United States, New York Join date: October 2008 Member #: 1508 Posts: 378 | RE: Cement Plant in Los Haitises??? A few things: - Thanks for the link Popon - If so many different groups have opposed it, then there is definitely something wrong with it. Different parties need to get their stories straight. According to Spanish news sources, the reason for the outcry is that it won't even create enough long-term jobs to be worth the environmental damage. Total long-term employment (not short-term while building it) is a meager 123 jobs. You can argue that something is better than nothing, but then again if the health hazards are going to be so great that the money spent on medical care for the residents will by far exceed the money families bring in from working there, is it really worth it? - You can't just look at the short-term prospects for jobs on these projects. The battery recycling center in Haina once provided jobs also but today is one of the most contaminated places on earth.Lack of long-term vision and planning is part of what has contributed to DR's under-development. - Lastly, it was reported (I can't seem to find the article anywhere after reading it), that there is a major religious figure in the country that stands to take a big piece of the cementera's pie. Powerful interests have been behind making the issue disappear from the news and newspapers. The protests have been gaining more momentum as of late and there were people wounded with gunshots. The powerful interests are looking at building apartment complexes now to see if they can "shut the people up" but it looks like it may not work either. |
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| #50 - Posted 4 August 2009, 1:54 AM | |
 Location: United States, La Hermandad Join date: November 2008 Member #: 1609 Posts: 1328 | RE: Cement Plant in Los Haitises??? Quote: yumnuk3 previously said: Quote: poponlaburra previously said: Yumnuk3, these are great videos you posted!!! Thanks. They are really great and touching to see the young population together for this cause. Why can they build this cementera in other place, there is so much land in the border why can they build it there? Why in the Haitises area is my question?? Why this damage? I'll definitely pack my camping gear for my next trip to DR. I'm in camping in los Haitises to support this cause. Congratulations Popon!!!! Way to take a stand by protesting. This is a great way for us to stand up for our beliefs and I'm happy to see that young people are utilizing their voices and standing up for their environment I value our environment and want to discuss ways to best protect it for people and wildlife...The toxin in cement plants can damage the brain and nervous system and is especially dangerous to fetuses and small children. I can't help but feel that us Dominicans are just getting suckered left, right and center by our disgustingly greedy politicians. How dare these selfish greedy bastards put the profits of companies before the lives of people. Our politicians are doing all they can to make life sweeter for themselves all the while sacrificing the lives of the people they have vowed to help. This system has to stop and we must stand up for ourselves, we must take time to right emails & letters, to vote, to peacefully protest and to help each other or they will win and their agenda will come to fruition. We must stop these sick greedy bastards from destroying our beloved island Thanks yumnuk3, Thanks again for the great post. We have so much non-habitated barren land in DR, why can they build this cement plant in these barren lands, why in Los Haitises area? We do not have to be expert on the subject, just common since to know the devastating effect of such contaminants in this paradise of Los Haitises. We do not have to be geologists or ecologist to know that the byproducts of the cement plant especially mercury and sulfur could wipe out the fist animals in the food chain, the insects, in particular the pollinators. What would we do without them? Well the other animals that feed on them will either disappear due to contaminants related illness and low supply of these insects. Then, the devastation will affect the flora. Without the pollinators the plants can not reproduce! There goes Los Haitises!!! Common sense based on actual facts. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/quisqueya_jamas_destruida/ "BLOCK BY BLOCK LET'S BUILD THE BORDER WALL" |
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