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| #1 - Posted 3 June 2009, 1:22 AM | |
 Location: United States, Seattle, W.A. Join date: April 2009 Member #: 2555 Posts: 3423  | Doctors agree : Abortion is not a good option at all! Expertos afirman que la vida inicia desde la concepción Escrito por: Fior Gil (f.gil@hoy.com.do) Expertos internacionales, incluyendo médicos científicos, declararon hoy que rechazan todo tipo de aborto y declaran que la vida se inicia desde la concepción, tras sostener que no existe el aborto terapéutico, ya que la terapia es para curar y no para interrumpir la vida. Las doctoras Marlene Gillette-Ibern y Mónica López Barahona, el doctor Rafael Cabrera Artola, ginecólogo-obstetra, con especialidad en embarazo de alto riesgo y el teólogo Adolfo Casteñedas, coincidieron en resaltar que el avance de la ciencia médica ha logrado salvar madres e hijos en casos de enfermedades, al tiempo que plantean que solo el caso de los embarazos esópico se puede llevar a cabo “aborto indirecto”, porque ese feto nunca se podrá desarrollar. No están de acuerdo con los sectores que plantean que se legalice el aborto “terapéutico” en mujeres que han quedado embarazadas por incesto, violaciones o de embarazos de alto riesgos tanto para la madre como para el hijo. En tal sentido, señalan que los gobiernos son los responsables de implementar políticas tendentes a garantizar la seguridad para las mujeres. Estos expertos se encuentran en el país para participar en un congreso Científico Internacional sobre el artículo 30 de la reforma constitucional, aprobado por los asambleístas en primera lectura. El congreso es organizado por la Arquidiócesis de Santo Domingo y se realizará ésta tarde. "People who don't like their beliefs being laughed at shouldn't have such funny beliefs" |
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| #2 - Posted 3 June 2009, 8:47 AM | |
Location: Dominican Republic Join date: September 2008 Member #: 1444 Posts: 6778 | RE: Doctors agree : Abortion is not a good option at all! Quote: Belly previously said: Expertos afirman que la vida inicia desde la concepción Escrito por: Fior Gil (f.gil@hoy.com.do) Expertos internacionales, incluyendo médicos científicos, declararon hoy que rechazan todo tipo de aborto y declaran que la vida se inicia desde la concepción, tras sostener que no existe el aborto terapéutico, ya que la terapia es para curar y no para interrumpir la vida. Las doctoras Marlene Gillette-Ibern y Mónica López Barahona, el doctor Rafael Cabrera Artola, ginecólogo-obstetra, con especialidad en embarazo de alto riesgo y el teólogo Adolfo Casteñedas, coincidieron en resaltar que el avance de la ciencia médica ha logrado salvar madres e hijos en casos de enfermedades, al tiempo que plantean que solo el caso de los embarazos esópico se puede llevar a cabo “aborto indirecto”, porque ese feto nunca se podrá desarrollar. No están de acuerdo con los sectores que plantean que se legalice el aborto “terapéutico” en mujeres que han quedado embarazadas por incesto, violaciones o de embarazos de alto riesgos tanto para la madre como para el hijo. En tal sentido, señalan que los gobiernos son los responsables de implementar políticas tendentes a garantizar la seguridad para las mujeres. Estos expertos se encuentran en el país para participar en un congreso Científico Internacional sobre el artículo 30 de la reforma constitucional, aprobado por los asambleístas en primera lectura. El congreso es organizado por la Arquidiócesis de Santo Domingo y se realizará ésta tarde. How can anyone rationalize killing babies. In the recent killing of the mass murderer Doctor in the USA, the press kept referring to "what some would call late term abortions". YOu blathering MEDIA IDIOTS, you biased imbeciles, it IS LATE TERM ABORTION. It is killing totally viable humans. And the total BS about the motherts health, not in a million cases these days is it necessary to kill the baby to save the mom -maybe 50 years ago a few cases, but ZERO such now. When they say it is for the mother "health" they refer to her emotions, not her body. When a country does not protect the unborn babies and allows mass murder, people will take the law into their own hands. Wrongdoers eagerly listen to gossip; liars pay close attention to slander. Proverbs 17:4 |
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| #3 - Posted 3 June 2009, 9:38 AM | |
Location: United States, Seattle, W.A. Join date: April 2009 Member #: 2555 Posts: 3423 | RE: Doctors agree : Abortion is not a good option at all! Here is the English version translate by Google. International experts, including medical science, said today that reject all forms of abortion and declare that life begins from conception, after arguing that there is no therapeutic abortion, since the therapy is to heal and not to disrupt life. Doctors and Marlene Gillette Ibern Mónica López-Barahona, Dr. Rafael Cabrera Artola, obstetrician-gynecologist, specializing in high-risk pregnancy and theologian Adolf Casteñedas, agreed that highlight the progress of medical science has succeeded in saving mothers and children in cases of disease, while only arise if Aesop pregnancies can be carried out "indirect abortion", because that baby may never be developed. Do not agree with the areas that pose the legalization of abortion "therapeutic" in women who have become pregnant by incest, rape or high-risk pregnancy for the mother to the child. In this regard, they note that governments are responsible for implementing policies to ensure security for women. These experts are in the country to participate in an International Scientific Conference on article 30 of constitutional reform, approved by the assembly on first reading. The conference is organized by the Archdiocese of Santo Domingo and will be held this afternoon. "People who don't like their beliefs being laughed at shouldn't have such funny beliefs" |
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| #4 - Posted 9 August 2009, 4:30 PM | |
 Location: United States, New York Join date: October 2008 Member #: 1508 Posts: 382 | RE: Doctors agree : Abortion is not a good option at all! They're claiming there is going to be an attempt to eliminate criminalization of abortion in the 2nd reading of the new constitution. Does anyone know anything about this? |
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| #5 - Posted 9 August 2009, 4:35 PM | |
 Location: United States Join date: June 2009 Member #: 2977 Posts: 2597 | RE: Doctors agree : Abortion is not a good option at all! People's obsession with a fetus is insane. Rename it what you please, if fetus is too "cold" call it a human baby. That doesn't change the fact that it should be a personal issue. If you don't want to have a abortion, don't. If you don't want your loved one to have one, argue it with them. But this hardly affects your quality of life or rights. |
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| #6 - Posted 9 August 2009, 5:14 PM | |
Location: Dominican Republic Join date: September 2008 Member #: 1444 Posts: 6778 | RE: Doctors agree : Abortion is not a good option at all! Quote: ElTorodeCibao previously said: People's obsession with a fetus is insane. Rename it what you please, if fetus is too "cold" call it a human baby. That doesn't change the fact that it should be a personal issue. If you don't want to have a abortion, don't. If you don't want your loved one to have one, argue it with them. But this hardly affects your quality of life or rights. In Canada and USA, mistreat a kitten and the media goes crazy and you go to jail. Kill your own babay and you a re feminazi heroine. No wonder God's judgements are falling on those countries. In the USA 50 MILLION babies killed. We just had a second grandaughter born two days ago. Awesome little human being. But we could legally have had her killed as she was being born, brains sucked out etc. Obama supports that. Do you? Wrongdoers eagerly listen to gossip; liars pay close attention to slander. Proverbs 17:4 |
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| #7 - Posted 9 August 2009, 5:37 PM | |
Location: United States Join date: June 2009 Member #: 2977 Posts: 2597 | RE: Doctors agree : Abortion is not a good option at all! Quote: cabaretewilliam previously said: Quote: ElTorodeCibao previously said: People's obsession with a fetus is insane. Rename it what you please, if fetus is too "cold" call it a human baby. That doesn't change the fact that it should be a personal issue. If you don't want to have a abortion, don't. If you don't want your loved one to have one, argue it with them. But this hardly affects your quality of life or rights. In Canada and USA, mistreat a kitten and the media goes crazy and you go to jail. Kill your own babay and you a re feminazi heroine. No wonder God's judgements are falling on those countries. In the USA 50 MILLION babies killed. We just had a second grandaughter born two days ago. Awesome little human being. But we could legally have had her killed as she was being born, brains sucked out etc. Obama supports that. Do you? Ok, I see where you're coming from now. We won't agree on anything so that's about the end of that. |
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| #8 - Posted 9 August 2009, 5:43 PM | |
Location: Dominican Republic Join date: September 2008 Member #: 1444 Posts: 6778 | RE: Doctors agree : Abortion is not a good option at all! Quote: ElTorodeCibao previously said: Quote: cabaretewilliam previously said: Quote: ElTorodeCibao previously said: People's obsession with a fetus is insane. Rename it what you please, if fetus is too "cold" call it a human baby. That doesn't change the fact that it should be a personal issue. If you don't want to have a abortion, don't. If you don't want your loved one to have one, argue it with them. But this hardly affects your quality of life or rights. In Canada and USA, mistreat a kitten and the media goes crazy and you go to jail. Kill your own babay and you a re feminazi heroine. No wonder God's judgements are falling on those countries. In the USA 50 MILLION babies killed. We just had a second grandaughter born two days ago. Awesome little human being. But we could legally have had her killed as she was being born, brains sucked out etc. Obama supports that. Do you? Ok, I see where you're coming from now. We won't agree on anything so that's about the end of that. Most abortion in NA is birth control for careless people. The number of cases where rape/incest or health of the mother is raised is around 1% of the total. The good news is many people are changing their minds. Support for the pro-life and anti-abotion position is now above 51% in the USA and growing. People are beginning to realise the lies the so-called family planners (destoryers) have been telling for 30 years. The vast majority of women who are coerced (and talked into an abortion by the men in their lives) into abortions live with terrible emotional scars and damage the rest of their lives. Suicide is way higher among women who have killed their babies. Wonder why.....and why those abortionmills doctors never tell the women that while they hold their hands and talk them into it... Wrongdoers eagerly listen to gossip; liars pay close attention to slander. Proverbs 17:4 |
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| #9 - Posted 9 August 2009, 5:52 PM | |
Location: United States Join date: June 2009 Member #: 2977 Posts: 2597 | RE: Doctors agree : Abortion is not a good option at all! Quote: cabaretewilliam previously said: Quote: ElTorodeCibao previously said: Quote: cabaretewilliam previously said: Quote: ElTorodeCibao previously said: People's obsession with a fetus is insane. Rename it what you please, if fetus is too "cold" call it a human baby. That doesn't change the fact that it should be a personal issue. If you don't want to have a abortion, don't. If you don't want your loved one to have one, argue it with them. But this hardly affects your quality of life or rights. In Canada and USA, mistreat a kitten and the media goes crazy and you go to jail. Kill your own babay and you a re feminazi heroine. No wonder God's judgements are falling on those countries. In the USA 50 MILLION babies killed. We just had a second grandaughter born two days ago. Awesome little human being. But we could legally have had her killed as she was being born, brains sucked out etc. Obama supports that. Do you? Ok, I see where you're coming from now. We won't agree on anything so that's about the end of that. Most abortion in NA is birth control for careless people. The number of cases where rape/incest or health of the mother is raised is around 1% of the total. The good news is many people are changing their minds. Support for the pro-life and anti-abotion position is now above 51% in the USA and growing. People are beginning to realise the lies the so-called family planners (destoryers) have been telling for 30 years. The vast majority of women who are coerced (and talked into an abortion by the men in their lives) into abortions live with terrible emotional scars and damage the rest of their lives. Suicide is way higher among women who have killed their babies. Wonder why.....and why those abortionmills doctors never tell the women that while they hold their hands and talk them into it... I never said I support it only in incest/rape. I'm not planned parenthood, I just say it's up to people personally, because I don't care what they choose in this matter since it hardly affects me. Americans have supported a lot of horrible ideas, and I'm not some liberal calling out recent wars. I personally know 2 women who've made this choice. They don't lose sleep over though they don't bury the memory. They made their choice and I respect that as a 3rd party. I'm not anti-abortion or pro-abortion. |
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| #10 - Posted 9 August 2009, 7:24 PM | |
Location: United States, New York Join date: October 2008 Member #: 1508 Posts: 382 | RE: Doctors agree : Abortion is not a good option at all! While I also believe it's a personal issue, it's always been marketed as "women's rights" and the approval of Roe v. Wade marked a milestone in this movement. This generation did not go through that so they see it a little differently. It also didn't help that programs like Planned Parenthood made it so obvious what a big business it was by moving out of poor neighborhoods into middle class ones because they were losing money. The USA and Canada have more than enough resources to afford outlawing abortion. However, I don't think it's the same for the Dominican Republic. With scarce jobs for those without connections and such little child support enforcement, I don't really know how fair it is to penalize abortion to the extent that it's even stated in the Constitution. They should just remove any reference to it in the new constitution. Edited on 8/9/2009 7:25 PM by DominicanChic. |
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