| #1 - Posted 3 June 2009, 8:52 AM | |
Location: Dominican Republic Join date: September 2008 Member #: 1444 Posts: 2555 | Dr. Tiller: A mass murderer is murdered How can anyone rationalize killing babies. In the recent killing of the mass murderer Doctor in the USA, the press kept referring to "what some would call late term abortions". You blathering MEDIA IDIOTS, you biased imbeciles, it IS LATE TERM ABORTION. It is not “What some would call” IT IS!!!!! It is killing totally viable humans. And the total BS about the mothers health, not in a million cases these days is it necessary to kill the baby to save the mom -maybe 50 years ago a few cases, but ZERO such now. When they say it is for the mother "health" they refer to her emotions, not her body. When a country does not protect the unborn babies and allows mass murder, people will take the law into their own hands. Do not be surprised. Note: I do not condone this, I simply state the obvious. Tiller's Women's Health Care Services clinic is one of just three in the nation where abortions are performed after the 21st week of pregnancy. The clinic was heavily fortified and Tiller often traveled with a bodyguard, but Stolz said there was no indication of security at the church Sunday. Brenda Pratt Shafer, a registered nurse from Dayton, Ohio, assisted Dr. Haskell in a Partial Birth Abortion on a 26-1/2 week (over 6 months) pre-born baby boy. She testified before the Senate Judiciary Committee (on 11/17/95) about what she witnessed. According to nurse Shafer, the baby was alive and moving as the abortionist “delivered the baby’s body and arms - everything but the head. The doctor kept the baby’s head just inside the uterus. The baby’s little fingers were clasping and unclasping, his feet were kicking. Then the doctor stuck the scissors through the back of his head, and the baby’s arms jerked out in a flinch, a startle reaction, like a baby does when he thinks he might fall. The doctor opened up the scissors, stuck a high-powered suction tube into the opening and sucked the baby’s brains out. Now the baby was completely limp.” With forceps, the doctor turns the baby around in the womb to be positioned feet first. The baby’s legs are pulled out into the birth canal. The baby is alive at this point. . The abortionist delivers the baby’s entire body, except for the head, which remains inside the birth canal. The baby’s hands and feet move The abortionist stabs the scissors into the base of the baby’s skull. The scissors are spread to enlarge the opening. The suction catheter is then inserted and the brains are sucked out, causing the skull to collapse. The head slides out easily. ARE THE BABIES ALIVE DURING THE ABORTION? Yes! On July 11, 1995, American Medical News (AMA’s official journal) submitted the transcript of a tape-recorded interview with abortionist Dr. Martin Haskell to the House Judiciary Committee in which he admitted: “...the majority of fetuses aborted this way (partial birth abortion) are alive until the end of the procedure.” IS THIS TYPE OF ABORTION RARE? When this type of procedure first became public knowledge, those defending it said it was only done a few hundred times a year. Then Ron Fitzsimmons, the executive director of the National Coalition of Abortion Providers admitted on ABC’s “Nightline” (11/95) that he had lied when he asserted the procedure was used rarely and only on women whose lives were in danger. The reality is, this gruesome method of killing partially born babies is done many thousands of times a year. Abortionist, Dr. McMahon, admitted in 1995 to performing over 2000 partial birth abortions. ARE THEY PERFORMED ONLY ON SEVERELY DEFORMED BABIES? That is what the abortion industry would like you to believe. But Dr. Haskell said in a tape recorded interview with the AMA’s American Medical News: “...and I’ll be quite frank: most of my abortions are elective (not medically necessary) in that 20-24 week range ... In my particular case, probably 20% are for genetic reasons. And the other 80% are purely elective.” An article in the L.A. Times (8/28/96) listed some of the medical reasons for this type of abortion. They included cleft palates, cystic hygroma, (both easily corrected problems) and cystic fibrosis. The medical conditions present in the mother that warranted this type of abortion were, “depression, chicken pox, diabetes, vomiting ...” In other words, even those partial birth abortions that are done for the “health of the mother” or because of a “defective fetus” are often performed for minor, easily correctable conditions. Dr. C. Everett Coop, former U.S. Surgeon General, stated, “... in no way can I twist my mind to see that the late-term abortion as described is a medical necessity for the mother. It certainly can’t be a necessity for the baby.” IS THIS TYPE OF ABORTION EVER DONE ON THIRD TRIMESTER BABIES? Yes. While most babies are in their 20th to 24th week when aborted in this manner, babies are aborted as late as the ninth month! This was admitted to by abortionist Dr. McMahon who, in 1995, submitted to the House Judiciary Constitution Subcommittee a graph and explanation that showed he aborted healthy babies even in the third trimester! As disturbing as this sounds, these are the facts. In this country medical doctors are partially delivering babies and then killing them. These babies are inches from being born. Many could be born and placed directly in the loving arms of childless couples for adoption. Instead, they are cruelly killed. Some call this abortion. No matter what you call it, you cannot alter the reality - 4 more inches out of the womb and this act would be called murder. http://www.abortionfacts.com/literature/literature_9313pb.asp Read and weep! William Visit: www.caribbeanrealty.ca www.casablancacabarete.com |
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| #2 - Posted 3 June 2009, 9:02 AM | |
Location: United States, New York City Join date: February 2008 Member #: 411 Posts: 3638 | RE: Dr. Tiller: A mass murderer is murdered I'm against abortion myself but surely you can't be condoning this physician's murder? 'The past is never dead. In fact, it's not even past.' - William Faulkner |
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| #3 - Posted 3 June 2009, 9:05 AM | |
Location: Dominican Republic Join date: September 2008 Member #: 1444 Posts: 2555 | RE: Dr. Tiller: A mass murderer is murdered Quote: cibaeño75 previously said: I'm against abortion myself but surely you can't be condoning this physician's murder? When a country does not protect the unborn babies and allows mass murder, people will take the law into their own hands. Do not be surprised. Note: I do not condone this, I simply state the obvious. I agree amigo, if you had read the post you would have seen the above statement... William Visit: www.caribbeanrealty.ca www.casablancacabarete.com |
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| #4 - Posted 3 June 2009, 9:07 AM | |
Location: Dominican Republic, Parque Colon statue of Anacaona Join date: April 2009 Member #: 2573 Posts: 3334 | RE: Dr. Tiller: A mass murderer is murdered Quote: cibaeño75 previously said: I'm against abortion myself but surely you can't be condoning this physician's murder? ciby these were not abortions these were 60000 late term abortions ....he should have had body guards if he wanted to specialize in that little piece of barbarity .....80 % of the American Public are against it My daughter Yaina aka ". Chucky la Nina Diabolica " |
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| #5 - Posted 3 June 2009, 9:25 AM | |
Location: United States Join date: February 2008 Member #: 336 Posts: 1585 | RE: Dr. Tiller: A mass murderer is murdered Vigilante justice even in modern developed USA...take note all those who who made comments of late regarding the same issue in DR. |
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| #6 - Posted 3 June 2009, 11:00 AM | |
Location: Dominican Republic, Santo Domingo Join date: December 2007 Member #: 38 Posts: 4364 | RE: Dr. Tiller: A mass murderer is murdered Quote: Manhattanite previously said: Vigilante justice even in modern developed USA...take note all those who who made comments of late regarding the same issue in DR. I'll always have this on the bottom of the deck whenever the usual provocateurs point fingers at our "barbarism". “Since the two rarely come together, anyone compelled to choose will find greater security in being feared than in being loved.” Niccolo Machiavelli |
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| #7 - Posted 3 June 2009, 11:24 AM | |
Location: United States Join date: June 2008 Member #: 933 Posts: 2645 | RE: Dr. Tiller: A mass murderer is murdered Quote: cibaeño75 previously said: I'm against abortion myself but surely you can't be condoning this physician's murder? With you on that one. |
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| #8 - Posted 3 June 2009, 11:34 AM | |
Location: Dominican Republic Join date: September 2008 Member #: 1444 Posts: 2555 | RE: Dr. Tiller: A mass murderer is murdered Quote: anthonyC previously said: Quote: cibaeño75 previously said: I'm against abortion myself but surely you can't be condoning this physician's murder? With you on that one. Watch enough Law & Order, and you will see that often the worst crimminals and sex offenders get off on technicalities. Then they get shot on the court house steps by a Dad or other person close to the victim. When the gov. does not take care of pedophile murderers, people will. William Visit: www.caribbeanrealty.ca www.casablancacabarete.com |
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| #9 - Posted 3 June 2009, 12:00 PM | |
Location: United States Join date: January 2009 Member #: 1932 Posts: 884 | RE: Dr. Tiller: A mass murderer is murdered Is Law&Order based on true stories? |
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| #10 - Posted 3 June 2009, 12:06 PM | |
Location: Dominican Republic Join date: September 2008 Member #: 1444 Posts: 2555 | RE: Dr. Tiller: A mass murderer is murdered Quote: Glimmertwin previously said: Is Law&Order based on true stories? The original seasons were based on true stories- I remember watching and saying - yup , that was news a year ago. Lately I think a lot is made up. One fact remains - people will shoot a guy if the gov. lets him off. If anyone touched my wife our 2 daughters (or sons) and the gov. gave them a slap on the wrist, I would go for the OT justice, eye for and eye etc. regardless of what they gov. then does to me. William Visit: www.caribbeanrealty.ca www.casablancacabarete.com |
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