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#3,061 - Posted 7 February 2013, 1:16 PM
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I'd also categorize as not much more than 'dressed up' trolling the slew of articles, studies, etc. which patholigizes and caricaturizes Dominican culture, history and our identity.
The apathy of Dominicans (na' de' na attitude aka simply not caring) doesn't help, I just came across a youtube video in which a non-Dominican actually took to time to critique the shoddy biased piece of crap documentary the Afram Prof. Gates did on us.



To tell you the truth, were it not for this forum and the other one that went down, I'd avoid these issues altogether. It gets tiresome and annoying to be correcting some of these mofos time and again only for the explanations to fall into deaf ears.

Exactly. So many more interesting topics to explore which get derailed by repetitive trolling (predictably by a certain crowd ). It was refreshing to see non-Dominicans call out that crowd on their obsessive trolling (and thats all it really is).
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#3,062 - Posted 7 February 2013, 1:34 PM
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I know what you mean Lautaro and the feeling is mutual. I am getting sick and tired of explaining as well. The most interesting part when ever people ask about Dominican race, the ones who seem to better grasp the concept are the white-anglo. If fact I remember one girl of Italian/Irish ancestry who stated out of her own personal interpretation, that she considered many Dominicans as simply darker skin caucasians just as there are lighter skin blacks. I found that to be a quite unusual and different way to look at things. However with regards to US blacks they are the most adamant and insist that anyone of "color" is just as black as natives from the deep jungles of Africa. To each his own.


We've been exposed to it for years, to the point where we can predict what is going to be said next.
It becomes apparent that their obsessiveness is fueled by a combination of 'ugly Americanism" (or more specifically, AfroAmericanism), blatant ethnocentric biases, the exportation of alien idealogies and identity politics, and the projection of their own issues..
It becomes apparent that certain populations, like Brazilians and Dominicans for example, would be targeted, while others (like for example those in Africa) are not.
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#3,063 - Posted 7 February 2013, 1:41 PM
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We've been exposed to it for years, to the point where we can predict what is going to be said next.
It becomes apparent that their obsessiveness is fueled by a combination of 'ugly Americanism" (or more specifically, AfroAmericanism), blatant ethnocentric biases, the exportation of alien idealogies and identity politics, and the projection of their own issues..
It becomes apparent that certain populations, like Brazilians and Dominicans for example, would be targeted, while others (like for example those in Africa) are not.



The most glaring example of this is the poster (from the other forum) "Dominicanboy" (LOL). Even though he would deny this time and again, I could swear to you that guy used to post on this forum under the handle "frenchdominican" (and on this very thread, I think). The ironic thing is that he swore over everything he held dear that this wasn't the case, but as the saying goes: "Por sus frutos lo conoceréis".
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#3,064 - Posted 7 February 2013, 11:25 PM
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Most African American don't seem to care about what we, or other Afro-descendant Latinos are, or choose to identify as. If one observes DR and Aframs relations in real life, one quickly notices that they view most of us as racially and culturally different from them. Unfortunately certain crusaders from this group relentlessly hound us with an unhealthy obsession. Why? I don't know. Maybe it hurts their egos that we choose not to identify as them, and probably feeds on their insecurity on their Blackness, and how they think others view it. It could also just be a mixture of ignorance, arrogance, and ethnocentrism. However, as I said these race baiting crusaders don't make up the mindset of the majority.
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#3,065 - Posted 8 February 2013, 12:15 AM
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Most African American don't seem to care about what we, or other Afro-descendant Latinos are, or choose to identify as. If one observes DR and Aframs relations in real life, one quickly notices that they view most of us as racially and culturally different from them. Unfortunately certain crusaders from this group relentlessly hound us with an unhealthy obsession. Why? I don't know. Maybe it hurts their egos that we choose not to identify as them, and probably feeds on their insecurity on their Blackness, and how they think others view it. It could also just be a mixture of ignorance, arrogance, and ethnocentrism. However, as I said these race baiting crusaders don't make up the mindset of the majority.


Good analysis.........I also agree it is an ego thing and no doubt is has to do with their insecurities. And misery loves company, insecure people like other people to be insecure as well and perhaps also a combination of everything mentioned in varying degrees.
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Most African American don't seem to care about what we, or other Afro-descendant Latinos are, or choose to identify as. If one observes DR and Aframs relations in real life, one quickly notices that they view most of us as racially and culturally different from them. Unfortunately certain crusaders from this group relentlessly hound us with an unhealthy obsession. Why? I don't know. Maybe it hurts their egos that we choose not to identify as them, and probably feeds on their insecurity on their Blackness, and how they think others view it. It could also just be a mixture of ignorance, arrogance, and ethnocentrism. However, as I said these race baiting crusaders don't make up the mindset of the majority.

Good analysis.........I also agree it is an ego thing and no doubt is has to do with their insecurities. And misery loves company, insecure people like other people to be insecure as well and perhaps also a combination of everything mentioned in varying degrees.

People have to break the chains of Mental Slavery, they are still stigmatize by labels and standards impose onto them but even worse they stick to them and feel themselves very proud of

It is a subtle matter, what to do (?) Just refuse to see the light
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#3,067 - Posted 8 February 2013, 10:52 AM
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Most African American don't seem to care about what we, or other Afro-descendant Latinos are, or choose to identify as. If one observes DR and Aframs relations in real life, one quickly notices that they view most of us as racially and culturally different from them. Unfortunately certain crusaders from this group relentlessly hound us with an unhealthy obsession. Why? I don't know. Maybe it hurts their egos that we choose not to identify as them, and probably feeds on their insecurity on their Blackness, and how they think others view it. It could also just be a mixture of ignorance, arrogance, and ethnocentrism. However, as I said these race baiting crusaders don't make up the mindset of the majority.

Good analysis.........I also agree it is an ego thing and no doubt is has to do with their insecurities. And misery loves company, insecure people like other people to be insecure as well and perhaps also a combination of everything mentioned in varying degrees.

People have to break the chains of Mental Slavery, they are still stigmatize by labels and standards impose onto them but even worse they stick to them and feel themselves very proud of

It is a subtle matter, what to do (?) Just refuse to see the light


Ok Bob, point taken.
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#3,068 - Posted 8 February 2013, 10:05 PM
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The whole crews here, lautaro and saru I miss ABF. Good to see USADR too.
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#3,069 - Posted 9 February 2013, 12:04 AM
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Kind of funny how we all seemed to eventually flock here once that forum went down. I heard the forum will be back up by this week or the next from one of the users who are acquainted with the forum's mods and admins. On a side note, I was unaware that there were other ABF members here besides myself, I guess the web really is a small world. However, I do recall seeing Lemba post here a couple of times in some of the older archives.
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#3,070 - Posted 9 February 2013, 1:34 AM
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The whole crews here, lautaro and saru I miss ABF. Good to see USADR too.


Yeah, life isn't the same without all the quarrels we used to have there, eh?
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