not me I was never fooled by the Obamanable snow job

im glad somebody saw humor in my question. lololol

naw its kool fred i know you have a good sense of humor.

Obama on stimulus: It’s worked great!

What did we expect him to say, “We misread the economy?” That’s for losers and Vice Presidents … but I repeat myself. In his weekly radio address, Barack Obama insisted that we should stop listening to the critics — and the man he put in charge of the stimulus package — and revel in the fabulous success that is Porkulus:

In a little over one hundred days, this Recovery Act has worked as intended. It has already extended unemployment insurance and health insurance to those who have lost their jobs in this recession. It has delivered $43 billion in tax relief to American working families and businesses. Without the help the Recovery Act has provided to struggling states, its estimated that state deficits would be nearly twice as large as they are now, resulting in tens of thousands of additional layoffs – layoffs that would affect police officers, teachers, and firefighters.

The Recovery Act has allowed small businesses and clean energy companies to hire new workers or scrap their plans for eliminating current jobs. And it’s led to new jobs building roads, bridges and other infrastructure projects, thousands of which are only beginning now. In the months to come, thousands more projects will begin, leading to additional jobs.

When Obama pushed for Porkulus and Congress passed it, do you recall when they argued that it would help states close their deficits? In fact, they argued that the money would go directly to “shovel-ready projects” and create new jobs, not get states off the hook for their own tough decisions on fiscal policy. Had Democrats stood up and said, “What we really need to do is conduct bailouts for all 50 states,” the voters would have abandoned Porkulus in droves. And yet that’s exactly what Obama brags he’s done here.

Obama then offers this rather standard dishonest argument — that those who oppose Porkulus wanted to do nothing at all:

Now, I realize that when we passed this Recovery Act, there were those who felt that doing nothing was somehow an answer. Today, some of those same critics are already judging the effort a failure although they have yet to offer a plausible alternative. Others believed that the recovery plan should have been even larger, and are already calling for a second recovery plan.

But, as I made clear at the time it was passed, the Recovery Act was not designed to work in four months – it was designed to work over two years. We also knew that it would take some time for the money to get out the door, because we are committed to spending it in a way that is effective and transparent. Crucially, this is a plan that will also accelerate greatly throughout the summer and the fall. We must let it work the way it’s supposed to, with the understanding that in any recession, unemployment tends to recover more slowly than other measures of economic activity.

That’s an absolute lie, and a deliberate one. In fact, it’s a series of deliberate lies. First, the Republicans did offer at least two proposals, neither of which Nancy Pelosi would allow to come to the floor. One was a tax-holiday proposal which would have allowed taxpayers a break from funding the federal government. The second and better idea actually came from moderate Democrat Rep. Walt Minnick (ID), who proposed a $170 billion START stimulus that relied solely on tax refunds and government spending in only 2009. Republicans backed Minnick’s START plan, but it never got a vote — because Pelosi and Obama locked Minnick’s idea out in favor of their plan.

Obama’s argument that he had promised a two-year effect is also a lie. Obama and his economic team sold Porkulus as a means to prevent an immediate spike in unemployment. Obama’s economic council argued that a failure to pass Porkulus would drive unemployment to 8.8% in the near term. Passing Porkulus would keep it at 8% or below this year. Romer’s own analysis showed that in three years, unemployment would be within a percentage point regardless of whether Porkulus was adopted or not. It was all about short-term performance, and Obama’s plan failed.

As Joe Biden said, they misread the economy, and gave us a failed strategy. House Minority Whip Eric Cantor agrees on that much with Biden:

There is no doubt that our nation faces many challenges, but the plain truth is that President Obama’s economic decisions have not produced jobs, have not produced prosperity and have not worked.

President Obama has already asked you to borrow trillions, and so far nearly 3 million jobs have been lost this year alone.

Remember the promises? They promised you if you paid for their stimulus, jobs would be created immediately. In fact, they said that unemployment would stay under eight percent.

Yet just months later, they are telling us to brace for unemployment to climb over ten percent. They promised jobs created. Now they scramble to find a way to play games with government numbers by claiming jobs saved.

Simply put, this is now President Obama’s economy and the American people are beginning to question whether his policies are working.

They’re beginning to do more than question it. They’re beginning to agree with Biden that the White House botched it.

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The OLD Testament ( Covenant) clearly states over and over that a NEW COVENANT is coming that replaces the OLD. CHeck Jer. 31:31 etc. Jesus came as the Law giver who was to replace Moses.

Salvation by grace alone, apart from human effort or works, is taught in the Old and the NEW, but the Old Covenant has been replaced.

I no where support gluttony. - Fasle accusation amig - you will not find any quotes. I do not support excesses fo capitalism. I beleive both the OT and NT support a free market economy with compassionate capitalism.

Obama: selfish - socialist - wants to take fromt he middle classe and give to the poor. - He dontated a couple thousand to charity (about 1%) even though he earned 3 million.

Dick Cheney: gave a whoppoing 75%, about 6 MILLION in one year to charity.

Now that is Biblical capitalism!
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Which is more of your nonsense - salvation according to Christian doctrine is in the hands of god.
It is right to assume that those that god has chosen will live rightous lives. See Spurgeon et al.


If anything is hated bitterly, it is the out-and-out gospel of the grace of God, especially if that hateful word “sovereignty” is mentioned with it. Dare to say “He will have mercy on whom he will have mercy, and he will have compassion on whom he will have compassion” (Romans 9:15), and furious critics will revile you without stint.

The modern religionist not only hates the doctrine of sovereign grace, but he raves and rages at the mention of it. He would sooner hear you blaspheme than preach election by the Father, atonement by the Son, or regeneration by the Spirit.

If you want to see a man worked up till the Satanic is clearly uppermost, let some of the new divines hear you preach a free grace sermon. A gospel which is ‘after men’ will be welcomed by men; but it needs divine operation upon the heart and mind to make a man willing to receive into his in most soul this ‘distasteful gospel of the grace of God’. My dear brethren, do not try to make it tasteful to carnal minds.

Hide not the offence of the cross, lest you make it of none effect. The angles and corners of the gospel are its strength — to pare them off is to deprive it of power. Toning down is not the increase of strength, but the death of it.

Learn, then, that if you take Christ out of Christianity, Christianity is dead. If you remove grace out of the gospel, the gospel is gone. If the people do not like the doctrine of grace, give them all the more of it. (Metropolitan Tabernacle Pulpit, 1891, p.49)

I preach the doctrines of grace because I believe them to be true; because I see them in the Scriptures; because my experience endears them to me; and because I see the holy result of them in believers. The doctrine which I preach to you is that of the Puritans: it is the doctrine of Calvin, the doctrine of Augustine, the doctrine of Paul, the doctrine of the Holy Spirit. The Author and Finisher of our faith himself taught the most blessed truth which well agreed with our text – “For by grace are you saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God.” Eph 2:8

http://www.mountzion.org/text/Tracts/Sovereign_Grace_Hated.doc


Spurgeon.


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Thanks for the word from Spurgoen, one of my favorite preachers of all time! The doctrines of grace, the BIBLICAL gospel what made him odious to his fellow preachers - is what I have believed and preaached for many years.

BTW, Spurgeon lived in a mansion that a church member built for himand gave him. He worked so hard he hardly had time to enjoy it....ran his own orphange and seminiary and church of 5000 people.
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Sometime explain the christian North American concupiscence for material objects, with preachers being paid 1/4 million a year when many people survive on a dollar a day.
Sold his Rolls :
http://blogs.bet.com/news/newsyoushouldknow/national-news-the-rev-creflo-dollar-sells-his-rolls-sub-prime-exec-commits-murder-suicide/
You could try Ryle to overcome your obsession with Obama!
http://www.faithbiblechurchnh.org/ryle_world.htm
Finally, brethren, whatsoever things are true, whatsoever things are honest, whatsoever things are just, whatsoever things are pure, whatsoever things are lovely, whatsoever things are of good report; if there be any virtue, and if there be any praise, think on these things.
P 4.8
Sell your SUV and buy a donkey.
Ryle on the Old Testement:
For one thing, let us beware of under-valuing the Old Testament. There has arisen of late years a most unhappy tendency to slight and despise any religious argument which is drawn from an Old Testament source, and to regard the man who uses it as a dark, benighted, and old-fashioned person. We shall do well to remember that the Old Testament is just as much inspired as the New, and that the religion of both Testaments is in the main, and at the root, one and the same. The Old Testament is the Gospel in the bud; the New Testament is the Gospel in full flower. The Old Testament is the Gospel in the blade: the New Testament is the Gospel in full ear. The Old Testament saints saw many things through a glass darkly: but they looked to the same Christ by faith and were led by the same Spirit as ourselves. Let us, therefore, never listen to those who sneer at Old Testament arguments. Much infidelity begins with an ignorant contempt of the Old Testament.

http://www.apuritansmind.com/TheLordsDay/JCRyleSabbath.htm
In any case don' drive your SUV on a Sunday walk!
am no Pharisee. Let no hard-working man who has been confined to a close room for six weary days, suppose that I object to his taking any lawful relaxation for his body on the Sunday. I see no harm in a quiet walk on a Sunday, provided always that it does not take the place of going to public worship, and is really quiet, and like that of Isaac (Gen. 24:63). I read of our Lord and His disciples walking through the cornfields on the Sabbath Day. All I say is, beware that you do not turn liberty into licence -- beware that you do not injure the souls of others in seeking relaxation for yourself -- and beware that you never forget you have a soul as well as a body.
S.



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Ryle, the Anglican you quote (I like many of his articles) as a Engish Sabbatarian and a Old Cov. believer, he did not grasp the distinction between the old and new! Even today many do not.

As time goes on more and more people watching this parade will shout out in surprise:

The EMPEROR HAS NO CLOTHES!!!

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The OLD Testament ( Covenant) clearly states over and over that a NEW COVENANT is coming that replaces the OLD. CHeck Jer. 31:31 etc. Jesus came as the Law giver who was to replace Moses.

Salvation by grace alone, apart from human effort or works, is taught in the Old and the NEW, but the Old Covenant has been replaced.

I no where support gluttony. - Fasle accusation amig - you will not find any quotes. I do not support excesses fo capitalism. I beleive both the OT and NT support a free market economy with compassionate capitalism.

Obama: selfish - socialist - wants to take fromt he middle classe and give to the poor. - He dontated a couple thousand to charity (about 1%) even though he earned 3 million.

Dick Cheney: gave a whoppoing 75%, about 6 MILLION in one year to charity.

Now that is Biblical capitalism!
[/QUOTE]
Which is more of your nonsense - salvation according to Christian doctrine is in the hands of god.
It is right to assume that those that god has chosen will live rightous lives. See Spurgeon et al.


If anything is hated bitterly, it is the out-and-out gospel of the grace of God, especially if that hateful word “sovereignty” is mentioned with it. Dare to say “He will have mercy on whom he will have mercy, and he will have compassion on whom he will have compassion” (Romans 9:15), and furious critics will revile you without stint.

The modern religionist not only hates the doctrine of sovereign grace, but he raves and rages at the mention of it. He would sooner hear you blaspheme than preach election by the Father, atonement by the Son, or regeneration by the Spirit.

If you want to see a man worked up till the Satanic is clearly uppermost, let some of the new divines hear you preach a free grace sermon. A gospel which is ‘after men’ will be welcomed by men; but it needs divine operation upon the heart and mind to make a man willing to receive into his in most soul this ‘distasteful gospel of the grace of God’. My dear brethren, do not try to make it tasteful to carnal minds.

Hide not the offence of the cross, lest you make it of none effect. The angles and corners of the gospel are its strength — to pare them off is to deprive it of power. Toning down is not the increase of strength, but the death of it.

Learn, then, that if you take Christ out of Christianity, Christianity is dead. If you remove grace out of the gospel, the gospel is gone. If the people do not like the doctrine of grace, give them all the more of it. (Metropolitan Tabernacle Pulpit, 1891, p.49)

I preach the doctrines of grace because I believe them to be true; because I see them in the Scriptures; because my experience endears them to me; and because I see the holy result of them in believers. The doctrine which I preach to you is that of the Puritans: it is the doctrine of Calvin, the doctrine of Augustine, the doctrine of Paul, the doctrine of the Holy Spirit. The Author and Finisher of our faith himself taught the most blessed truth which well agreed with our text – “For by grace are you saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God.” Eph 2:8

http://www.mountzion.org/text/Tracts/Sovereign_Grace_Hated.doc


Spurgeon.


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Thanks for the word from Spurgoen, one of my favorite preachers of all time! The doctrines of grace, the BIBLICAL gospel what made him odious to his fellow preachers - is what I have believed and preaached for many years.

BTW, Spurgeon lived in a mansion that a church member built for himand gave him. He worked so hard he hardly had time to enjoy it....ran his own orphange and seminiary and church of 5000 people.
[/QUOTE]
Sometime explain the christian North American concupiscence for material objects, with preachers being paid 1/4 million a year when many people survive on a dollar a day.
Sold his Rolls :
http://blogs.bet.com/news/newsyoushouldknow/national-news-the-rev-creflo-dollar-sells-his-rolls-sub-prime-exec-commits-murder-suicide/
You could try Ryle to overcome your obsession with Obama!
http://www.faithbiblechurchnh.org/ryle_world.htm
Finally, brethren, whatsoever things are true, whatsoever things are honest, whatsoever things are just, whatsoever things are pure, whatsoever things are lovely, whatsoever things are of good report; if there be any virtue, and if there be any praise, think on these things.
P 4.8
Sell your SUV and buy a donkey.
Ryle on the Old Testement:
For one thing, let us beware of under-valuing the Old Testament. There has arisen of late years a most unhappy tendency to slight and despise any religious argument which is drawn from an Old Testament source, and to regard the man who uses it as a dark, benighted, and old-fashioned person. We shall do well to remember that the Old Testament is just as much inspired as the New, and that the religion of both Testaments is in the main, and at the root, one and the same. The Old Testament is the Gospel in the bud; the New Testament is the Gospel in full flower. The Old Testament is the Gospel in the blade: the New Testament is the Gospel in full ear. The Old Testament saints saw many things through a glass darkly: but they looked to the same Christ by faith and were led by the same Spirit as ourselves. Let us, therefore, never listen to those who sneer at Old Testament arguments. Much infidelity begins with an ignorant contempt of the Old Testament.

http://www.apuritansmind.com/TheLordsDay/JCRyleSabbath.htm
In any case don' drive your SUV on a Sunday walk!
am no Pharisee. Let no hard-working man who has been confined to a close room for six weary days, suppose that I object to his taking any lawful relaxation for his body on the Sunday. I see no harm in a quiet walk on a Sunday, provided always that it does not take the place of going to public worship, and is really quiet, and like that of Isaac (Gen. 24:63). I read of our Lord and His disciples walking through the cornfields on the Sabbath Day. All I say is, beware that you do not turn liberty into licence -- beware that you do not injure the souls of others in seeking relaxation for yourself -- and beware that you never forget you have a soul as well as a body.
S.



S.


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Ryle, the Anglican you quote (I like many of his articles) as a Engish Sabbatarian and a Old Cov. believer, he did not grasp the distinction between the old and new! Even today many do not.
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Modern christians who claim to follow JC and do not observe the sabbath are crazy. JC observed tha sabbath:
In John 15:10 Jesus said "I have kept my father's commandments" and we can also find from scripture that Jesus attended church on the Sabbath day. "And he came to Nazareth, where he had been brought up: and, as his custom was, he went into the synagogue on the sabbath day, and stood up for to read." Luke 4:16
Seventh day advententists follow this example.
JC 's example was to follow:
In John 15:10 Jesus said "I have kept my father's commandments"
But of course the law on sacrifce etc. is subject to new revelation.
Even an agnostic like myself can see that Pirate Preacher Men such as yourself have subverted the fairly good Christian religion into the new christantiy that preaches greed and is corrupt typified by people such as you.
There are some people who do see this error and are working to correct it and return to a true Christian faith.
http://www.yrm.org/old%20testament%20lives.htm
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It is to late for you Bubbles there is no absolution for your kind of sins ! you are going to the hottest part of the inferno

You possession by the Devil is growing stronger?
S.