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RE: Michael Jackson dies after heart attack

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Hey Dummmy Dreadsy, SOUL and R & B is not white music - just though I would let you know, it is mostly black folks. So you are again so very wrong, as always, and not even able to grasp what I wrote

I compared MJ to those types of music! But hey, MJ did really try hard to be white and it killed him!

Will, you probably right and the evidence seem to be pointing to the constant bleaching of his skin and the surgeries may have taken a toll on him

by the way would call Rock n Roll a black or white music ??? just a thought

R & R has its roots in the Black community, in fact most great music has, from Soul, to Jazz, To Rock and Roll, to R & B. I think most R & R greats would readlily admit to having really got started by listeing and being influenced by the greats in the above genre.

Van Morisson, Eric Clapton, Joe Cocker, Alro Guthrie just a few examples. Then you add the influence of negro-spirituals and you have the real roots of all of these types of music.
I just love watching B.B. King perform! He is part of the foundation! And of course Ray Charles...Motown etc. (where MJ got started)

Willi you are leaving out a whole segment of music which many think is the antithesis of soul and R and B but Ray Charles and Chuck Berry did not think that way and it all came from the same place and poor people making Music that is Country .....Elvis loved the music of Hank and Hank had American Soul.... he said the same thing a little different you just have to listen to that early stuff and get over your prejudices both ways ...

I may be wrong, but country is white peoples soul music. I do know that it has havng Black roots, more of the blue gras roots maybe, the folk music that the Scots and Irish brought over, as both of those are given to ballads and the range from upper to downer music.

I just cannot get into country, as it is a matter of taste!

I always said that Jazz was white collar black music for mostly white folks, and Blues is blue collar Black music for everyone.

Certainly Ray Charles crossed over into diff. styles (Georgia) as do most great musicians....

you got it right about the Scots and Irish all those hill billies and swamp people playing there music in churches of the south not south Ontario and the the blacks in their churches Take it out the church mix it up you got Rocka Billy Rock and Roll and R and B and Soul .....Did you know that ABC was the Banjo player in " Deliverance "......remember always Rock and Roll will standhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bBmh5GIHU6A

Edited on 6/26/2009 11:22 AM by FredCDobbs.

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#59 - Posted 26 June 2009, 6:19 PM
talia Location: United States, NY Join date: March 2008 Member #: 511 Posts: 303	RE: Michael Jackson dies after heart attack Quote: cabaretewilliam previously said: When the pedophile in the DR was arrested and sent back to the USA to face justice (very limited justice) everyone managed to agree for once and piled on and condemned him. Rightly so. When the pedophile is a millionaire rock star (with tons of evidence including 20 million dollar payoffs to families to keep quiet) everyone ignores what this pervert has done to ruin the lives of lchildren who trusted him and cheers him on. Van Morrison made and makes real music. MJ was a "pop" star with teeny bobby music of no lasting value. In that sense he was very much like Elvis, who at least stuck with grown women and not boys. "Good news for Michael Jackson, not guilty on ten counts! The bad news -- he's going to Disneyland!" --Jay Leno "Legal experts say the key was that the defense really didn’t play the race card. Well, duh. They didn’t know which race to play." --Jay Leno "It's like they always say, if you're rich and white, you can get away with anything." --Jimmy Kimmel, on the Michael Jackson verdict "It's kind of ironic when you think about it. The only Jackson you can accuse of committing a lewd act is Janet at the Super Bowl. The one we wanted to see." --Jay Leno "The next big question is, Will Michael Jackson be Robert Blake's new golf partner or Scott Peterson's new girlfriend? --Jay Leno "Johnny Cochran died and had a funeral. You know who was at the funeral -- both O.J. Simpson and Michael Jackson. In fact, Michael cornered O.J. and said, 'How do you get stains off a glove?'" --Bill Maher "Michael Jackson was caught on tape saying he was a virgin until he was the age of 32. I mean, is that really shocking? I mean, he was a black man guy 'til he was 35." --Jay Leno "As you know, Michael Jackson late again to court twice this week…have you seen him? Two people helping him walk into the building; he's constantly late; he's crying a lot; he's walking stiffly…I think he's going through menopause." --Jay Leno "Michael brought his personal magician into court with him. Good to see this thing doesn't turn into a circus. I guess the magician's job at Neverland was to make the young boy's pants disappear." --Jay Leno "According to the news, Michael Jackson is broke and can't even afford the payroll at Neverland Ranch. So the next time you see Michael with his hands in a 12-year-old's pocket, he might just be looking for lunch money." --Jay Leno Michael Jackson, late for court again today, you know, because of his bad back. Well, you'd have a bad back too if every conversation you had in your life involved having to bend over and ask, "What's your name?" --Jay Leno "A lot of people thought Michael Jackson was faking it yesterday but people who know Michael say he does have back problems that flare up from time to time. Like when he's on trial for child molestation." --Jay Leno "Michael Jackson claims that his partners would sleep in the bed, while he slept on the floor. You know, it's the same arrangement the Clintons had." --Jay Leno "The judge in the Michael Jackson child molestation trial selected 250 candidates for the jury pool, while Jackson himself has selected 20 for the kiddie pool." --Amy Poehler, Saturday Night Live's "Weekend Update" "According to a Gallup poll, 17% of those asked still have a favorable opinion of Michael Jackson. That may not sound like much, but it's still more than any of the Democratic candidates running for president." —Jay Leno "Michael Jackson now using the internet to communicate with his fans. Which makes sense, that’s how he met most of 'em." —Jay Leno "After turning himself in yesterday, Michael Jackson was placed in handcuffs. I think he helped his case when he asked 'These are neat, do they come in smaller sizes?" —Jay Leno "Michael Jackson announced this week that the Neverland Ranch is no longer home to him. He said he can’t go back there. Which of course is really bad news for the kids locked in the crawlspace." —Jay Leno "Now he is out on bail — again he still doesn't get it. When a reporter asked him what he is going to do now, he said, 'I'm going to Disneyland.'" —Jay Leno "Early today Michael met with his priest — not for spiritual advice, they went on a double date." —Jay Leno "Now that Barack Obama has been elected president, producers in Hollywood say they think America is now ready for a black James Bond and a black Wonder Woman. Isn't that cool? Yeah, hell, America may even be ready for a black Michael Jackson." --Conan O'Brien "The effects of the Barack Obama election win are still reverberating throughout the country. A lot of pride in the African-American community. Have you noticed that? And listen to the latest rumor. You hear about this? ... Michael Jackson now considering going back to being a black guy." --Jay Leno "I looks like the Democratic field really starting to get narrowed down. For Democrats, it's going to be Barack Obama versus Hillary. So, it's a black man or a white woman. You know, this is the same decision Michael Jackson has to make every morning of his life." --Jay Leno "See all those people on the news walking around wearing those surgical masks, huh? For the swine flu. Suddenly Michael Jackson is not so crazy, huh? Yeah! I think we owe Michael an apology." --Jay Leno "Tomorrow - this is a little fun fact for you - both John McCain and Michael Jackson will celebrate their birthday. Yeah, so it will be the birthday of an old white guy and John McCain." --Conan O'Brien Your opinion is yours... but it must of taken you a while to copy & paste for this tired smear campaign. It's just like one person said "if my child was molested I'd shoot him, not sue him." Please- it's sad, let it go now, he's dead. Edited on 6/26/2009 6:34 PM by talia. Dios le bendiga!
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#51 - Posted 26 June 2009, 10:24 AM
dreadlocks Location: United States Join date: December 2007 Member #: 4 Posts: 8511	RE: Michael Jackson dies after heart attack Will the Ill informs Hey Dummmy Dreadsy, SOUL and R & B is not white music my sentiment exactly. which is why i am bemused that you can only draw on names of white exponents of that art form. (until, at least, i woke you up to that reality. now you will probably go to google for names of black performers)
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#52 - Posted 26 June 2009, 10:30 AM
FredCDobbs Location: Dominican Republic, Parque Colon statue of Anacaona Join date: April 2009 Member #: 2573 Posts: 3334	RE: Michael Jackson dies after heart attack Quote: cabaretewilliam previously said: Quote: antonioj previously said: Quote: cabaretewilliam previously said: Hey Dummmy Dreadsy, SOUL and R & B is not white music - just though I would let you know, it is mostly black folks. So you are again so very wrong, as always, and not even able to grasp what I wrote I compared MJ to those types of music! But hey, MJ did really try hard to be white and it killed him! Will, you probably right and the evidence seem to be pointing to the constant bleaching of his skin and the surgeries may have taken a toll on him by the way would call Rock n Roll a black or white music ??? just a thought R & R has its roots in the Black community, in fact most great music has, from Soul, to Jazz, To Rock and Roll, to R & B. I think most R & R greats would readlily admit to having really got started by listeing and being influenced by the greats in the above genre. Van Morisson, Eric Clapton, Joe Cocker, Alro Guthrie just a few examples. Then you add the influence of negro-spirituals and you have the real roots of all of these types of music. I just love watching B.B. King perform! He is part of the foundation! And of course Ray Charles...Motown etc. (where MJ got started) Condo Willi you are leaving out a whole segment of music which many think is the antithesis of soul and R and B but Ray Charles and Chuck Berry did not think that way and it all came from the same place and poor people making Music that is Country .....Elvis loved the music of Hank and Hank had American Soul.... he said the same thing a little different you just have to listen to that early stuff and get over your prejudices both ways ... My daughter Yaina aka ". Chucky la Nina Diabolica "
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#53 - Posted 26 June 2009, 11:11 AM
cabaretewilliam Location: Dominican Republic Join date: September 2008 Member #: 1444 Posts: 2555	RE: Michael Jackson dies after heart attack Quote: FredCDobbs previously said: Quote: cabaretewilliam previously said: Quote: antonioj previously said: Quote: cabaretewilliam previously said: Hey Dummmy Dreadsy, SOUL and R & B is not white music - just though I would let you know, it is mostly black folks. So you are again so very wrong, as always, and not even able to grasp what I wrote I compared MJ to those types of music! But hey, MJ did really try hard to be white and it killed him! Will, you probably right and the evidence seem to be pointing to the constant bleaching of his skin and the surgeries may have taken a toll on him by the way would call Rock n Roll a black or white music ??? just a thought R & R has its roots in the Black community, in fact most great music has, from Soul, to Jazz, To Rock and Roll, to R & B. I think most R & R greats would readlily admit to having really got started by listeing and being influenced by the greats in the above genre. Van Morisson, Eric Clapton, Joe Cocker, Alro Guthrie just a few examples. Then you add the influence of negro-spirituals and you have the real roots of all of these types of music. I just love watching B.B. King perform! He is part of the foundation! And of course Ray Charles...Motown etc. (where MJ got started) Willi you are leaving out a whole segment of music which many think is the antithesis of soul and R and B but Ray Charles and Chuck Berry did not think that way and it all came from the same place and poor people making Music that is Country .....Elvis loved the music of Hank and Hank had American Soul.... he said the same thing a little different you just have to listen to that early stuff and get over your prejudices both ways ... I may be wrong, but country is white peoples soul music. I do know that it has havng Black roots, more of the blue gras roots maybe, the folk music that the Scots and Irish brought over, as both of those are given to ballads and the range from upper to downer music. I just cannot get into country, as it is a matter of taste! I always said that Jazz was white collar black music for mostly white folks, and Blues is blue collar Black music for everyone. Certainly Ray Charles crossed over into diff. styles (Georgia) as do most great musicians.... Edited on 6/26/2009 11:12 AM by cabaretewilliam. William Visit: www.caribbeanrealty.ca www.casablancacabarete.com
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#54 - Posted 26 June 2009, 11:18 AM
FredCDobbs Location: Dominican Republic, Parque Colon statue of Anacaona Join date: April 2009 Member #: 2573 Posts: 3334	RE: Michael Jackson dies after heart attack Quote: cabaretewilliam previously said: Quote: FredCDobbs previously said: Quote: cabaretewilliam previously said: Quote: antonioj previously said: Quote: cabaretewilliam previously said: Hey Dummmy Dreadsy, SOUL and R & B is not white music - just though I would let you know, it is mostly black folks. So you are again so very wrong, as always, and not even able to grasp what I wrote I compared MJ to those types of music! But hey, MJ did really try hard to be white and it killed him! Will, you probably right and the evidence seem to be pointing to the constant bleaching of his skin and the surgeries may have taken a toll on him by the way would call Rock n Roll a black or white music ??? just a thought R & R has its roots in the Black community, in fact most great music has, from Soul, to Jazz, To Rock and Roll, to R & B. I think most R & R greats would readlily admit to having really got started by listeing and being influenced by the greats in the above genre. Van Morisson, Eric Clapton, Joe Cocker, Alro Guthrie just a few examples. Then you add the influence of negro-spirituals and you have the real roots of all of these types of music. I just love watching B.B. King perform! He is part of the foundation! And of course Ray Charles...Motown etc. (where MJ got started) Willi you are leaving out a whole segment of music which many think is the antithesis of soul and R and B but Ray Charles and Chuck Berry did not think that way and it all came from the same place and poor people making Music that is Country .....Elvis loved the music of Hank and Hank had American Soul.... he said the same thing a little different you just have to listen to that early stuff and get over your prejudices both ways ... I may be wrong, but country is white peoples soul music. I do know that it has havng Black roots, more of the blue gras roots maybe, the folk music that the Scots and Irish brought over, as both of those are given to ballads and the range from upper to downer music. I just cannot get into country, as it is a matter of taste! I always said that Jazz was white collar black music for mostly white folks, and Blues is blue collar Black music for everyone. Certainly Ray Charles crossed over into diff. styles (Georgia) as do most great musicians.... you got it right about the Scots and Irish all those hill billies and swamp people playing there music in churches of the south not south Ontario and the the blacks in their churches Take it out the church mix it up you got Rocka Billy Rock and Roll and R and B and Soul .....Did you know that ABC was the Banjo player in " Deliverance "......remember always Rock and Roll will standhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bBmh5GIHU6A Edited on 6/26/2009 11:22 AM by FredCDobbs. My daughter Yaina aka ". Chucky la Nina Diabolica "
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#55 - Posted 26 June 2009, 12:04 PM
cabaretewilliam Location: Dominican Republic Join date: September 2008 Member #: 1444 Posts: 2555	RE: Michael Jackson dies after heart attack [QUOTE=FredCDobbs] [/QUOTE] I may be wrong, but country is white peoples soul music. I do know that it has havng Black roots, more of the blue gras roots maybe, the folk music that the Scots and Irish brought over, as both of those are given to ballads and the range from upper to downer music. I just cannot get into country, as it is a matter of taste! I always said that Jazz was white collar black music for mostly white folks, and Blues is blue collar Black music for everyone. Certainly Ray Charles crossed over into diff. styles (Georgia) as do most great musicians.... [/QUOTE] you got it right about the Scots and Irish all those hill billies and swamp people playing there music in churches of the south not south Ontario and the the blacks in their churches Take it out the church mix it up you got Rocka Billy Rock and Roll and R and B and Soul .....Did you know that ABC was the Banjo player in " Deliverance "......remember always Rock and Roll will stand[URL]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bBmh5GIHU6A[/URL] [/QUOTE] One of my favourite bands form the 60's is CCR, Creedence (Faith) Clearwater (Gospel) Revival They started out in churches and got the boot, being to R & R (imagine - pretty mild now) so they kept the name and went mainstream. William Visit: www.caribbeanrealty.ca www.casablancacabarete.com
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#56 - Posted 26 June 2009, 12:05 PM
cabaretewilliam Location: Dominican Republic Join date: September 2008 Member #: 1444 Posts: 2555	RE: Michael Jackson dies after heart attack The legendry John Mayer loved Indian music as I do (AdummyBC) Ha! :lol: :lol: :lol: That explains a lot :lol: :lol: :lol: That makes two of you! William Visit: www.caribbeanrealty.ca www.casablancacabarete.com
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#57 - Posted 26 June 2009, 12:30 PM
antonioj Location: Canada, home safe Join date: January 2008 Member #: 268 Posts: 2578	RE: Michael Jackson dies after heart attack Will, are you familiar with tex mex, that is the type music they play in northern of mexico, take out the spanish and voila you have country, what I am not sure who have influenced who ?? We must accept finite disappointment, but never lose infinite hope.
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#58 - Posted 26 June 2009, 1:01 PM
cabaretewilliam Location: Dominican Republic Join date: September 2008 Member #: 1444 Posts: 2555	RE: Michael Jackson dies after heart attack Quote: antonioj previously said: Will, are you familiar with tex mex, that is the type music they play in northern of mexico, take out the spanish and voila you have country, what I am not sure who have influenced who ?? Bueno Musica! The accordian is an interesting touch. Cabarete has a Jazz Festival every year on the beach - big event! They mis in the accordian in a similar way, and they make jazz with a Latin influence - really cool. The event draws thousands and the performances are really lively. (except for the band from Cuba - I think Castro told them how to play) William Visit: www.caribbeanrealty.ca www.casablancacabarete.com
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#60 - Posted 26 June 2009, 7:01 PM
abc200 Location: United Kingdom Join date: August 2008 Member #: 1307 Posts: 3200	RE: Michael Jackson dies after heart attack Quote: FredCDobbs previously said: Quote: abc200 previously said: Quote: cabaretewilliam previously said: Quote: antonioj previously said: Will, would not say it's a matter of taste, his music was embraced all over the world and transcend over all boundaries I agree. Music is all about taste, and no doubt the guy had talent, but his music/lyrics are liteweight, which explains the appeal and why it is called "pop" and not "soul" or R & B. Compare MJ lyirics to that of Moody Blues, or Pink Floyd and such and Yu will know what I mean. taste: how many people like music from India, or China, or Italian Opera, or North American Indian music (if it can even be called music, that repetative noise) ....some do but the appeal is limited. The legendry John Mayer loved Indian music as I do. The influence was heavy in his Indo-Jazz Fusions for example. http://www.cmt.com/artists/az/mayer_john_jazz_/bio.jhtml German singspeil is better than Italian opera although both enjoyable. Besides the cocktails at the Munich Opera are very superior! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WlbPTDHtK-c Unfortunately the World is polluted with evil empire trash spread by the media moguls from Amerika! http://www.businessweek.com/bwdaily/dnflash/content/sep2006/db20060911_957615.htm S. John Mayer is a legend in your mind a footnote in everyone elses ...then again your mind is very very small Your mind is completely closed - I share with you: http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x6n8ql_sitar-music-live-performance-clip-o_music Who wants to know about trashy Amerikan pop stars! S.
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