| #1 - Posted 30 June 2009, 6:03 PM | |
Location: Dominican Republic, Parque Colon statue of Anacaona Join date: April 2009 Member #: 2573 Posts: 3334 | Honduras and the Cuba exception Latin America's leaders are right to condemn the coup in Honduras -- but wrong to give Havana a pass on democracy. By Andrés Martinez June 30, 2009 The images were decidedly retro and jarring in their distant familiarity, as if a grainy old family film long left in the attic had been brought out for a screening. In defense of la patriala patria, army troops overpowered el palacio at dawn and placed el presidente on an airplane to be flown into exile, still wearing his pajamas. Sunday's coup in Honduras followed a script once so familiar it acquired cliche status, material even for a Woody Allen sendup. Military coups are supposed to be a thing of the past in Latin America, where the consolidation of political stability and electoral democracy has been a landmark achievement over the last two decades. But events in Tegucigalpa over the weekend reminded us that this achievement remains somewhat tenuous. There is nothing inevitable about democracy in Latin America, it turns out. In this case, outside reaction to the political drama in Honduras (which has its nuances, to be sure, including an ousted president who had been acting in defiance of his nation's Supreme Court) has been swift and energetic. The Organization of American States, the Obama administration, leftist allies of ousted President Manuel Zelaya (a close friend of Venezuela's Hugo Chavez) and other world leaders have rightly condemned the army's intervention and called for the return of Zelaya, invoking among other things the Inter-American Democratic Charter signed in Lima, Peru, on Sept. 11, 2001. That's the proper reaction. But the attempted coup also serves to unmask the hypocrisy surrounding Cuba's possible return to the Organization of American States and to full participation in the Inter-American community. Indeed, some of the very same regional players now urging a united front on behalf of democracy in Honduras are the same leaders who in recent months have been eager to embrace Cuba and give the tropical gulag nation a pass on its lack of democracy and basic civil liberties, citing explicit principles of nonintervention and implicit nostalgia for anti-gringo revolutionary lore. This despite the fact that the Inter-American Charter makes democracy a precondition to full-fledged membership in the OAS. Fidel Castro himself, a man known for his mischievous sense of irony, penned a column in the newspaper Granma on Sunday calling events in Honduras a "test for the OAS." But the real test is whether Latin America's leading democratic leaders heed the cautionary tale. If leaders such as Brazil's Luiz Inacio Lula da Silva, Mexico's Felipe Calderon and Chile's Michelle Bachelet don't become more forceful advocates of democracy and human rights in the region, they will be encouraging a continued rollback of democratic gains -- be it a corruption of the rule of law by populist demagoguery from the left or military coups from the right. You can't carve out a Cuba exception to hemispheric rules without expecting others to exempt themselves as well. My daughter Yaina aka ". Chucky la Nina Diabolica " |
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| #2 - Posted 30 June 2009, 6:04 PM | |
Location: Dominican Republic, Parque Colon statue of Anacaona Join date: April 2009 Member #: 2573 Posts: 3334 | RE: Honduras and the Cuba exception page 2 ................... For the region's democratic gains to take root, Latin America's major democracies will have to start standing up to the Castro brothers. Cuba has been the canary in this coal mine for a while now, seeing as how the region had seemingly overcome right-wing military threats to democratic norms. A willingness to speak out against right-wing coups does appear to trump sovereignty concerns, as it should. It is no coincidence that the Inter-American Democratic Charter was passed on 9/11. That date, after all, already lived in infamy in Latin America as the date on which Chile's military deposed Salvador Allende in 1973. But when it comes to Cuba, complacency about what has been gained takes hold, as Latin American leaders have been reluctant in that case to apply their values and shared commitment to democracy, partly out of fear of appearing to be a tool of American imperialism. This is one of several reasons the unilateral U.S. embargo on the island nation is so counterproductive (another being that it has failed over decades to accomplish anything). The sooner the embargo is lifted, the sooner Washington can prod major Latin American democracies to press Cuba for democratic change. An end to the U.S. embargo is not the same as welcoming Cuba into the community of Latin American democracies, and critics in this country of Washington's failed approach shouldn't fall into the trap of also giving Havana's communist tyrants a pass for their behavior. Uncle Sam has a storied history of hypocrisy in the hemisphere -- decrying Cuba's lack of freedoms while cozying up to right-wing dictatorships. That's why it was artful of the Obama administration this month to have gone along with the OAS repeal of its Cold War-inspired 1962 anti-Cuban resolution, at a conference in San Pedro Sula, Honduras. Repeal did not make Cuba free to join the Inter-American community; it still needs to embrace the hemisphere's democratic values and commitment to human rights. The reluctance among Latin American leaders to hold Cuba accountable is disheartening. Although U.S. diplomats skillfully threaded the needle in San Pedro Sula early this month, ceding ground without going along with an unconditional readmission of that country to the OAS, leaders like Bachelet and Lula irresponsibly fly off to Havana to bask in the Cold War relic's romantic associations, treating the Castros like esteemed counterparts. The left now matches Washington's former selectivity in doling out moral judgments, invoking a transnational legal commitment to democracy in the case of Honduras (and briefly during the failed coup attempt against Chavez in 2002) but disregarding it in the case of Cuba. Such selective championing of freedom could prove fatal to the cause in the region, by further emboldening autocratic forces on both left and right. Andrés Martinez is a senior fellow at the New America Foundation. My daughter Yaina aka ". Chucky la Nina Diabolica " |
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| #3 - Posted 30 June 2009, 7:00 PM | |
Location: Dominican Republic, Boycott Dominican Tourism Join date: May 2008 Member #: 731 Posts: 2057 | RE: Honduras and the Cuba exception "Uncle Sam has a storied history of hypocrisy in the hemisphere -- decrying Cuba's lack of freedoms while cozying up to right-wing dictatorships" Quoted from your article.. But the U.S. did far more then Cozy up to the Latin American Dictators |
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| #4 - Posted 30 June 2009, 7:09 PM | |
Location: Dominican Republic, Parque Colon statue of Anacaona Join date: April 2009 Member #: 2573 Posts: 3334 | Quote: chillaxin201 previously said: "Uncle Sam has a storied history of hypocrisy in the hemisphere -- decrying Cuba's lack of freedoms while cozying up to right-wing dictatorships" Quoted from your article.. But the U.S. did far more then Cozy up to the Latin American Dictators you would still be picking bananas if it was not for Uncle Sam stop being a baby and grow up My daughter Yaina aka ". Chucky la Nina Diabolica " |
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| #5 - Posted 30 June 2009, 8:06 PM | |
Location: United States Join date: June 2009 Member #: 2976 Posts: 110 | RE: Honduras and the Cuba exception They cozy up to Right wing dictators in Latin America, cry foul of Fidel Castro and Cuba and human rights... but have repeatedly jump in bed with China. Can you say "hypocrite?" |
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| #6 - Posted 30 June 2009, 8:41 PM | |
Location: Dominican Republic, Boycott Dominican Tourism Join date: May 2008 Member #: 731 Posts: 2057 | RE: Honduras and the Cuba exception Quote: FredCDobbs previously said: Quote: chillaxin201 previously said: "Uncle Sam has a storied history of hypocrisy in the hemisphere -- decrying Cuba's lack of freedoms while cozying up to right-wing dictatorships" Quoted from your article.. But the U.S. did far more then Cozy up to the Latin American Dictators you would still be picking bananas if it was not for Uncle Sam stop being a baby and grow up Get off Sam's D!ck By the way you posted the article, I am just analyzing it. Edited on 6/30/2009 8:43 PM by chillaxin201. |
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| #7 - Posted 1 July 2009, 7:21 AM | |
Location: Dominican Republic, Parque Colon statue of Anacaona Join date: April 2009 Member #: 2573 Posts: 3334 | RE: Honduras and the Cuba exception Quote: chillaxin201 previously said: Quote: FredCDobbs previously said: Quote: chillaxin201 previously said: "Uncle Sam has a storied history of hypocrisy in the hemisphere -- decrying Cuba's lack of freedoms while cozying up to right-wing dictatorships" Quoted from your article.. But the U.S. did far more then Cozy up to the Latin American Dictators you would still be picking bananas if it was not for Uncle Sam stop being a baby and grow up Get off Sam's D!ck By the way you posted the article, I am just analyzing it. sorry Chill I thought you were being an imbecile like DonCalamebrain My daughter Yaina aka ". Chucky la Nina Diabolica " |
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| #8 - Posted 5 July 2009, 7:16 AM | |
Location: Dominican Republic, Parque Colon statue of Anacaona Join date: April 2009 Member #: 2573 Posts: 3334 | LOOK WHAT YO GET TO READ AND USE FOR TOILET PAPER IF YOU LIVE IN CUBA............... Our Defense Is Much Stronger * Confirmed by the thorough analysis of the National Defense Council in an expanded meeting presided over by General of the Army Raúl Castro. Emphasis placed on constant perfection of achievements. By Jorge Martín Blandino “The predictions have been confirmed. We have avoided war and with that we won it.” That was how Raúl summed up the extraordinary effort of our people to strengthen the country’s defense, from early 2003 to the present. That was the main issue addressed by an expanded meeting of the National Defense Council, presided over by General of the Army Raúl Castro Ruz, president of the Councils of State and Ministers, and which met last week at the headquarters of the Ministry of the Revolutionary Armed Forces (MINFAR). Their analysis confirmed, once again, the timeliness of the principle expressed by Fidel on December 18, 1991: “We will not neglect our defense for one second.” General of the Army Raúl Castro visited combatants in the reserve forces during their period of training in field conditions and composed of small units. He ratified an idea that has been valid since the very birth of the Revolution, at a time when the country faced a serious and growing danger of direct military aggression by the U.S. armed forces, and after the disintegration of the USSR. More than 10 years later, the increasing warmongering of the Bush administration used the hysteria prompted by the terrorist attack on New York’s Twin Towers to declare his intention of attacking “any dark corner of the Earth.” The preparation of combatants from the reserves and the militias, which began in July 2006, has gone ahead via Operation Caguairán. At that time, the U.S. government had intensified its economic blockade, ideological warfare and other aggressions against Cuba to an absurd level, and was even hinting at direct military action. In that context, Raúl recalled an episode after the invasion of Iraq narrated in a book by the shrewd U.S. investigative reporter Bob Woodward, concerning a question that Bush asked a high-ranking U.S. official: “if he wanted to go into Iran.” The official answered that he would prefer to “go to Cuba, where the rum and tobacco are better and the women more beautiful.” “You’ve got it, you’ve got Cuba!” was the response of then-president Bush. It sounds like a joke in bad taste, but the author relates in another book, Bush at War, that during a meeting of the U.S. National Security Council, Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld proposed, with the consent of Vice President Cheney, to mount a massive attack on Cuba. Woodward adds that Bush not only agreed with the proposal but also asked for a detailed plan to be presented as fast as possible. “It was one of the most dangerous moments our country has gone through since the 1962 missile crisis,” Raúl affirmed. That situation led to an extraordinary plenum of the Central Committee of the Communist Party on July 15, 2003, and to the decision to increase and speed up measures aimed at strengthening the country’s defense in every aspect, based on a renewed, rational and realistic approach. Three years later, on July 1, 2006, the Fifth Plenum confirmed the results obtained and ratified and improved the strategy charted. A thorough critical analysis of what has been achieved since then and projections for future work was the central objective of this expanded meeting of the National Defense Council. As President Raúl Castro has said, it has been the continuation of an almost 30-year long process, in which a military doctrine has been consolidated and perfected, based on the concept of “the war of all the people.” Those attending included members of the Political Bureau, the Central Committee Secretariat, first secretaries of the provincial committees of the Party — also the presidents of the defense councils in their respective provinces, and other Party leaders. State and government leaders, the leadership of the MINFAR and the Ministry of the Interior, and leaders of the Union of Young Communists and mass and social organizations were also present at the meeting. ......CHILL AND GLIMM LOOK WHAT YOUR MISSING My daughter Yaina aka ". Chucky la Nina Diabolica " |
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| #9 - Posted 5 July 2009, 3:40 PM | |
Location: United States Join date: January 2009 Member #: 1932 Posts: 1271 | RE: LOOK WHAT YO GET TO READ AND USE FOR TOILET PAPER IF YOU LIVE IN CUBA.... Quote: FredCDobbs previously said: State and government leaders, the leadership of the MINFAR and the Ministry of the Interior, and leaders of the Union of Young Communists and mass and social organizations were also present at the meeting. ......CHILL AND GLIMM LOOK WHAT YOUR MISSING Goulet: You are a sad case for an assistant..... stop tracking our activities ! |
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