Bingo. Them becoming "White" (see:mainstream) has been predicted time and time again. I doubt that will ever happen for whatever reason (there are many). They've always been the springboard to Whitehood for others, you just got to ensue mob violence on them (Irish, Italians, Germans) or the modern way of distancing yourself socially and economically (Chinese and Jews) and you'll be "White" within a few generations. You know, and drop all the ethnic-y crap but keep a mainstream acceptable quaint version to be marketed.

I still have been to more great restaurants in New York than you will probably ever be able to afford and can still get a good table at " The Four Seasons " and I dont mean the hotel Yes I know NYC better than Madrid or Rome but then I get around a lot or at least I used to ciby Brooklyn and Staten Island are not Midtown nor the Bronx nor Queens etc.... ..I seldom explored

Oh, of course. I go upstate often. Might go up there this weekend. The whole eastern seaboard is my playground Sometimes I even venture out west Yo concosco este pais bien...

You can never forget you roots, I love both countries. The big stereo type is that 99% of women in USA say the all Dominican men are "perros" They think that you are cheating all the time just because you are Dominican. lol

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You guys forget I am not a provincial hick like you guys and have actually resided in 6 different countries my favorite for living life is Viva Franco Viva Espana but my heart lies in the USA the Dr is also nice especially after spending way to much time on a bunch of West Indian sand bars
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I grew up and still reside in the capital of the world. You'll have to live in 6 more countries to be saturated with the cosmpolitanism that has surrounded me all my life and which I take advantage of daily. [B]If they're not from New York they're farmers, bottom line.[/B]
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Boy, you should come up north some time, it's quite a lot of farm country off that little island and the few counties north of it.
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Oh, of course. I go upstate often. Might go up there this weekend. The whole eastern seaboard is my playground Sometimes I even venture out west Yo concosco este pais bien...
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I'm the same way, though I seldom venture into The City these days. I usually keep to the mid-Atlantic/north east for the eastern sea board (not a big fan of the southern United States [not for any "the south sucks" reasons just not a fan]), then hop over to many spots of the western seaboard.

I'm much more of a open country fresh air tall mountains type of guy. That's why I fell in love with western Austria (Vorarlberg).

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You guys forget I am not a provincial hick like you guys and have actually resided in 6 different countries my favorite for living life is Viva Franco Viva Espana but my heart lies in the USA the Dr is also nice especially after spending way to much time on a bunch of West Indian sand bars
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I grew up and still reside in the capital of the world. You'll have to live in 6 more countries to be saturated with the cosmpolitanism that has surrounded me all my life and which I take advantage of daily. [B]If they're not from New York they're farmers, bottom line.[/B]
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Boy, you should come up north some time, it's quite a lot of farm country off that little island and the few counties north of it.
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Oh, of course. I go upstate often. Might go up there this weekend. The whole eastern seaboard is my playground Sometimes I even venture out west Yo concosco este pais bien...
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I'm the same way, though I seldom venture into The City these days. I usually keep to the mid-Atlantic/north east for the eastern sea board (not a big fan of the southern United States [not for any "the south sucks" reasons just not a fan]), then hop over to many spots of the western seaboard.

I'm much more of a open country fresh air tall mountains type of guy. That's why I fell in love with western Austria (Vorarlberg).
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I gotta tell you I LOVE the south. I visit Virginia and the Carolinas often. I have good freinds down there.

The thing is as little as some of those Italian-Americans may have to do with Italy, or as little as they know about true Italian culture, what they do have is a shared experience and shared history in the USA. To me it is actually commendable that well into 3rd and 4th generations, and after substantial mixing and assimilation, some of them still retain some notion of a group identity . SO even if a guy knows nil about Italy today, speaks no Italian, and has never been there ... he can still see certain other Americans and identify with the fact their families and his had very similar stories. And, truth be told, if you peak into their families you may be surprised to see some behaviors still remain shared in this loosely knit ethnicity. SO though I understand on the surface it seems odd given how distant they've become from the old country, on the other hand what is wrong with waving a lil' foreign flag to commemorate shared struggles of your grandparents?

as Cib says our dynamics are much different. Our migrations are occurring in an age of cheap travel, easy communications, and far less pressure to assimilate to some vague notion of 'mainstream'. also all around us are arriving other groups that happen to share our language and similar folkways. the context of our diaspora is very different, so we'll see what emerges in 20 years time.

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