| #11 - Posted 3 July 2009, 3:00 PM | |
Location: Dominican Republic, Santo Domingo Join date: December 2007 Member #: 38 Posts: 4361 | RE: Dominican-Americans..or...American-Dominicans Quote: cibaeño75 previously said: Now let me ask you a question or two: Do you consider us Dominicans or not? What's the prevalent opinion among those that live over there with regards to the first question? Yes I do, without the shadow of a doubt, although I would be willing to make an exception of Junot and the people that think like him, a group of people that, thank the Lord, are not that many. About the rest of the population's views about the diaspora, they're mainly neutral, in the sense of their seeing you the same way they would see someone from Azua, Montecristi, or Higuey, that is, they don't care about the fact of many of you being born on foreign lands, as long as you carry the values of dominicaness up front. They only get hostile when people like Junot agree with the poor and disparaging views that some foreign groups have about us. Edited on 7/3/2009 3:07 PM by Lautaro. “Since the two rarely come together, anyone compelled to choose will find greater security in being feared than in being loved.” Niccolo Machiavelli |
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| #12 - Posted 3 July 2009, 3:08 PM | |
Location: Dominican Republic, Parque Colon statue of Anacaona Join date: April 2009 Member #: 2573 Posts: 3334 | RE: Dominican-Americans..or...American-Dominicans Quote: Lautaro previously said: Quote: cibaeño75 previously said: Now let me ask you a question or two: Do you consider us Dominicans or not? What's the prevalent opinion among those that live over there with regards to the first question? Yes I do, without the shadow of a doubt, although I would be willing to make an exception of Junot and the people that think like him, a group of people that, thank the Lord, are not that many. About the rest of the population's views about the diaspora, they're mainly neutral, in the sense of their seeing you the same way they would see someone from Azua, Montecristi, or Higuey, that is, they don't care about the fact of many of you being born on foreign lands, as long as you carry the values of dominicaness up front. They only get hostile when people like Junot agree with the disparaging views that some foreign groups have about us. I think possibly his point of view is shared by many of the educated class of expats do you really think lautaro you could survive as a wishy washy liberal in American society without his perspective on those sensitive issues My daughter Yaina aka ". Chucky la Nina Diabolica " |
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| #13 - Posted 3 July 2009, 3:11 PM | |
Location: Dominican Republic, Santo Domingo Join date: December 2007 Member #: 38 Posts: 4361 | RE: Dominican-Americans..or...American-Dominicans Quote: FredCDobbs previously said: I think possibly his point of view is shared by many of the educated class of expats do you really think lautaro you could survive as a wishy washy liberal in American society without his perspective on those sensitive issues They can f...ck the heck out of themselves for all I care. You know how poorly I regard political correctness, why do you believe that I would shrink from speaking my mind because of not sharing the same thoughts that a majority do? If the americans of the revolutionary times had their thoughts guided by political correctness, you would still be king George's boys along with ABC instead of the multinational empire that you're now. Also, your founding fathers despised majority rule, or as they would say, the "tyranny of the mob". Edited on 7/3/2009 3:14 PM by Lautaro. “Since the two rarely come together, anyone compelled to choose will find greater security in being feared than in being loved.” Niccolo Machiavelli |
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| #14 - Posted 3 July 2009, 3:14 PM | |
Location: United States, New York City Join date: February 2008 Member #: 411 Posts: 3638 | RE: Dominican-Americans..or...American-Dominicans Quote: Lautaro previously said: Quote: FredCDobbs previously said: I think possibly his point of view is shared by many of the educated class of expats do you really think lautaro you could survive as a wishy washy liberal in American society without his perspective on those sensitive issues They can f...ck the heck out of themselves for all I care. You know how poorly I regard political correctness, why do you believe that I would shrink from speaking my mind because of not sharing the same thoughts that a majority do? If the americans of the revolutionary times had their thoughts guided by political correctness, you would still be king George's boys instead of the multinational empire that you're now. Also, your founding fathers despised majority rule, or as they would say, the "tyranny of the mob". What exactly did Junot state that inflames you so? 'The past is never dead. In fact, it's not even past.' - William Faulkner |
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| #15 - Posted 3 July 2009, 3:14 PM | |
Location: United States Join date: February 2009 Member #: 2112 Posts: 2437 | RE: Dominican-Americans..or...American-Dominicans cibaeno What does it mean to be Dominican to all of you who have lived many years, or perhaps your entire lives, here in the United States? What do we, the Domincan-Americans, symbolize to those of you who reside in DR? I came here at 12 it was a big shock and hard to adapt to this fast pace kind of life. i wanted to stay there but my parent knew better. i and many of my friends whose i went to high school with in the bronx we were so attached of dr that we spoke spanish in our english class and didnt care about it. i used to put gel in my hair, wear silk or rayon pants and shtirt along with canata. that used to be our ID to all other dominicans. you knew right there that person was one of you. yo al igual que los demas en los general rechasabamos esta cultura americana y de alguna manera queriamos seguir viviendo en quisquella con nuestra forma de vivir aqui. la otra pregunta mañana le preguntare a unos cuantos poi aya que opinan de nosotros SEREMOS RECONOCIDOS LOS TRINITARIOS CON LAS PALABRAS SACRAMENTALES: "DIOS" "PATRIA" Y "LIBERTAD". ASI LO PROMETO ANTES DIOS Y EL MUNDO: SI LO HAGO, DIOS ME PROTEJAS, Y DE NO, ME LO TOME EN CUENTA, Y MIS CONSOCIOS ME CASTIGUEN EL PERJURIO Y LA TRAICION, SI LOS VENDO. |
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| #16 - Posted 3 July 2009, 3:15 PM | |
Location: Dominican Republic, Santo Domingo Join date: December 2007 Member #: 38 Posts: 4361 | RE: Dominican-Americans..or...American-Dominicans Quote: cibaeño75 previously said: What exactly did Junot state that inflames you so? He says that "dominican racism prepared me for the one that I would face in the US". When I read that the first time I was like WTF? That's the most nonsensical and bullshit opinion that I have ever read someone utter in my entire life. Benedict Arnoldism at its finest. Edited on 7/3/2009 3:22 PM by Lautaro. “Since the two rarely come together, anyone compelled to choose will find greater security in being feared than in being loved.” Niccolo Machiavelli |
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| #17 - Posted 3 July 2009, 3:30 PM | |
Location: United States, "El Amanza GUAPOS, BIGOTS, TROLLS y SELF-PROCLAIMED DOMINICAN "PATRIOTS" De Villa Duarte" Join date: August 2008 Member #: 1255 Posts: 3826 | RE: Dominican-Americans..or...American-Dominicans Quote: Lautaro previously said: Couldn't say it better...even if I tried.Quote: cibaeño75 previously said: What do we, the Domincan-Americans, symbolize to those of you who reside in DR? Please don't take it badly, but I consider the dominican diaspora to be a constant reminder of our failures, of our inability to provide to our citizens the necessary living conditions that would prevent them from taking this regrettable step. Every dominican living on foreign lands is a permanent wound on the fabric of the patria's collective psyche, like a son/daughter that is lost on the ocean in the middle of a storm. I Am The BOOOO!GEYMAN!!.....Hide The Kids And Stop The Dancing, Singing, Whining, Complaining and Crying....... El LEONAAAAZO De Villa Duarte No Estaba Muerto, Andaba De Parranda!. JAJAJAJA. |
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| #18 - Posted 4 July 2009, 12:21 AM | |
Location: United States Join date: June 2009 Member #: 2977 Posts: 1499 | RE: Dominican-Americans..or...American-Dominicans Quote: cibaeño75 previously said: Quote: ny4life previously said: I like the fact that Dominicans are always receptive of the disapora. They don't see us as a burden but an extension of the Dominican country. Like Lautauro said, the lost sons and daughter. When we are in DR, we are treated like we are at home!! Not all the time...I've been referred to as "gringo" on more than one occasion back over there. Some back on the island definitely see us as the "other". I'm sorry to hear that. Any time I've returned it's been warm and receptive. Only my sister's treated as a real "other" because her Spanish is slow and misspoken and has terrible castellano overtones. While we may be a constant reminder of our country's failures to people like Lautaro (and rightfully so) we're also examples of what we can accomplish with the right resources and education. We have one of the highest rates of college graduates amongst recent immigrants in the States. Edited on 7/4/2009 12:22 AM by ElTorodeCibao. |
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| #19 - Posted 4 July 2009, 3:32 AM | |
Location: United States, NYC Join date: January 2008 Member #: 283 Posts: 390 | RE: Dominican-Americans..or...American-Dominicans Quote: Lautaro previously said: Quote: cibaeño75 previously said: What exactly did Junot state that inflames you so? He says that "dominican racism prepared me for the one that I would face in the US". When I read that the first time I was like WTF? That's the most nonsensical and bullshit opinion that I have ever read someone utter in my entire life. Benedict Arnoldism at its finest. Lautaro, do you have any articles. I' d like to see the correlation that he makes. Racism here is different than anywhere else (IMO). |
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| #20 - Posted 4 July 2009, 9:08 AM | |
Location: United States Join date: December 2007 Member #: 4 Posts: 8511 | RE: Dominican-Americans..or...American-Dominicans Mr Lautaro and Cibaeno, would you have any outtakes from Junot's book that i could check on the web, or do i have to buy the book? actually, i will buy the book, but could use an immediate fix, if it is available |
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