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#21 - Posted 4 July 2009, 11:32 AM
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I like the fact that Dominicans are always receptive of the disapora. They don't see us as a burden but an extension of the Dominican country. Like Lautauro said, the lost sons and daughter. When we are in DR, we are treated like we are at home!!


I would agree indeed, however from my experience the mind set of these americans born of Dominicans parents are totally different.
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#22 - Posted 4 July 2009, 11:44 AM
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There is racism in the DR......White Dominicans look down on the rest, black and mixed dominicans look up to the whites and mixed dominicans look down on the blacks. Do you really think whites, blacks and biracials live in harmony in DR? All in latin america there is racism towards the ones with more melanin, it isn't some nationalist paradise like you make it out to be. Send Pena Gomez and Hipolito Mejia to Mexico or some parts of South America and see who will get better treatment.


For christ sake can we ever have an enriching conversation without you propping up all over the place, with the same attribute and innuendos. You have said what you had to say times and times again, is there really a need to keep rubbing in it to exhaustion.
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#23 - Posted 4 July 2009, 11:52 AM
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What exactly did Junot state that inflames you so?


He says that "dominican racism prepared me for the one that I would face in the US". When I read that the first time I was like WTF? That's the most nonsensical and bullshit opinion that I have ever read someone utter in my entire life. Benedict Arnoldism at its finest.


Mr Lautaro were you educated in DR ? or have you ever spend time abroad at all ?
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#24 - Posted 4 July 2009, 12:08 PM
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What exactly did Junot state that inflames you so?


He says that "dominican racism prepared me for the one that I would face in the US". When I read that the first time I was like WTF? That's the most nonsensical and bullshit opinion that I have ever read someone utter in my entire life. Benedict Arnoldism at its finest.


Mr Lautaro were you educated in DR ? or have you ever spend time abroad at all ?


I was educated here on the DR, but I have done my share of journeys over the years (US, Brazil, Panama, Europe, etc.), and believe me, nothing can be compared with the humilliations and degradation that the US one drop rule can bring. Some of my best buddies has been traumatized for life by this nonsensical pseudo-ideological BS.
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#25 - Posted 4 July 2009, 12:12 PM
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Mr Lautaro and Cibaeno, would you have any outtakes from Junot's book that i could check on the web, or do i have to buy the book? actually, i will buy the book, but could use an immediate fix, if it is available


Here's an excerpt of the book my friend:

http://www.newyorker.com/archive/2000/12/25/2000_12_25_098_TNY_LIBRY_000022398

Enjoy,
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#26 - Posted 4 July 2009, 12:24 PM
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What exactly did Junot state that inflames you so?


He says that "dominican racism prepared me for the one that I would face in the US". When I read that the first time I was like WTF? That's the most nonsensical and bullshit opinion that I have ever read someone utter in my entire life. Benedict Arnoldism at its finest.


Mr Lautaro were you educated in DR ? or have you ever spend time abroad at all ?


I was educated here on the DR, but I have done my share of journeys over the years (US, Brazil, Panama, Europe, etc.), and believe me, nothing can be compared with the humilliations and degradation that the US one drop rule can bring. Some of my best buddies has been traumatized for life by this nonsensical pseudo-ideological BS.

Thank you for responding, how would you characterize your experience living abroad USA versus Europe?. I envy you to have spent time in europe, I must say we are very fortunate to have you, dread ciby and all the others that have decided to call DT home, a tool to learn and share the dominican's history, culture, and the many point of view that exist out there.
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#27 - Posted 4 July 2009, 12:30 PM
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What exactly did Junot state that inflames you so?


He says that "dominican racism prepared me for the one that I would face in the US". When I read that the first time I was like WTF? That's the most nonsensical and bullshit opinion that I have ever read someone utter in my entire life. Benedict Arnoldism at its finest.


Mr Lautaro were you educated in DR ? or have you ever spend time abroad at all ?


I was educated here on the DR, but I have done my share of journeys over the years (US, Brazil, Panama, Europe, etc.), and believe me, nothing can be compared with the humilliations and degradation that the US one drop rule can bring. Some of my best buddies has been traumatized for life by this nonsensical pseudo-ideological BS.

Thank you for responding, how would you characterize your experience living abroad USA versus Europe?. I envy you to have spent time in europe, I must say we are very fortunate to have you, dread ciby and all the others that have decided to call DT home, a tool to learn and share the dominicans, history culture and the many point of view that exist out there.


Well, living in Europe is not that different from living in Canada, mon ami, and I could say that at the very least, the europeans that do despise us are more honest about it, contrary to the hypocrisy and veiled contempt that one can see in the US.
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#28 - Posted 4 July 2009, 12:34 PM
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Heres a good article about racism in the DR:
http://www.nathanielturner.com/kiiniiburasalaam2.htm
And no she isn't an afro centrist who thinks all Dominicans are black, she is simply talking about the racism she experienced there.


But she's a one dropper that believes that the DR should define itself by this idiotic rule, which is enough for me to hold her in the deepest of contempts.
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#29 - Posted 4 July 2009, 12:36 PM
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What exactly did Junot state that inflames you so?


He says that "dominican racism prepared me for the one that I would face in the US". When I read that the first time I was like WTF? That's the most nonsensical and bullshit opinion that I have ever read someone utter in my entire life. Benedict Arnoldism at its finest.





Lautaro,


do you have any articles. I' d like to see the correlation that he makes. Racism here is different than anywhere else (IMO).



Here's what some of us think about him (sorry, it's in spanish):

http://foros.clavedigital.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=5751


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#30 - Posted 4 July 2009, 12:41 PM
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Heres a good article about racism in the DR:
http://www.nathanielturner.com/kiiniiburasalaam2.htm
And no she isn't an afro centrist who thinks all Dominicans are black, she is simply talking about the racism she experienced there.


http://thestudyofracialism.org/about402.html&highlight=kiiniibura+salaam
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