| #31 - Posted 4 July 2009, 12:43 PM | |
Location: Dominican Republic, Santo Domingo Join date: December 2007 Member #: 38 Posts: 4364 | RE: Dominican-Americans..or...American-Dominicans Quote: troy310879 previously said: Quote: Lautaro previously said: Quote: troy310879 previously said: Heres a good article about racism in the DR: http://www.nathanielturner.com/kiiniiburasalaam2.htm And no she isn't an afro centrist who thinks all Dominicans are black, she is simply talking about the racism she experienced there. But she's a one dropper that believes that the DR should define itself by this idiotic rule, which is enough for me to hold her in the deepest of contempts. Where does she mention that all Dominicans are black? She even mentioned white dominicans in there.... No, but she implies her shock about one family using different names to define their differing skin tones, which for one dropper is an idiotic thing, cuz' for them, the families that do so should name themselves black and be done with it. She'll never understand that the color gradations of the DR are only descriptive terms and don't imply the belonging to a social class, as it is the case in the US. Edited on 7/4/2009 12:47 PM by Lautaro. “Since the two rarely come together, anyone compelled to choose will find greater security in being feared than in being loved.” Niccolo Machiavelli |
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| #32 - Posted 4 July 2009, 12:47 PM | |
Location: Dominican Republic, Boycott Dominican Tourism Join date: May 2008 Member #: 731 Posts: 2064 | RE: Dominican-Americans..or...American-Dominicans Quote: cibaeño75 previously said: What does it mean to be Dominican to all of you who have lived many years, or perhaps your entire lives, here in the United States? What do we, the Dominican-Americans, symbolize to those of you who reside in DR? Well first of all, you know how many Dominican came to the U.S. to build a better life and ended up. Still broke. Sad! I don’t know what Dominicans in D.R. think of me. I am just some dude that came on a plane to see them from the cold empire up north. Dominicans in D.R. already know there really isn’t anything in the U.S. You might make more money in the U.S. but you live better in DR. Exiles; It’s sad that Dominicans must leave their homeland for what ever reason, economical, political and or medical. Poor Dominican that had to leave do to the Trujillo regime, some of those brave souls came back time and time again to rid us of him. “CAYO CONFITIS, 14 de Junio” Quote: troy310879 previously said: There is racism in the DR......White Dominicans look down on the rest, black and mixed Dominicans look up to the whites and mixed Dominicans look down on the blacks. Do you really think whites, blacks and biracial live in harmony in DR? All in Latin America there is racism towards the ones with more melanin; it isn't some nationalist paradise like you make it out to be. Send Pena Gomez and Hipolito Mejia to Mexico or some parts of South America and see who will get better treatment. This is very much true, is it the same in Cuba? I know Cuban Americans are very racist, Very!!!!! I also have been called racist, for not wanting to date or having anything to do with a certain Morena. But it had more to do with other factors then just her skin color. |
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| #33 - Posted 4 July 2009, 12:50 PM | |
Location: Dominican Republic, Santo Domingo Join date: December 2007 Member #: 38 Posts: 4364 | RE: Dominican-Americans..or...American-Dominicans Quote: troy310879 previously said: Quote: Lautaro previously said: Quote: troy310879 previously said: Quote: Lautaro previously said: Quote: troy310879 previously said: Heres a good article about racism in the DR: http://www.nathanielturner.com/kiiniiburasalaam2.htm And no she isn't an afro centrist who thinks all Dominicans are black, she is simply talking about the racism she experienced there. But she's a one dropper that believes that the DR should define itself by this idiotic rule, which is enough for me to hold her in the deepest of contempts. Where does she mention that all Dominicans are black? She even mentioned white dominicans in there.... No, but she implies her shock about one family using different names to define their differing skin tones, which for one dropper is an idiotic thing, cuz' for them, the families that do so should name themselves black and be done with it. She'll never understand that the color gradations of the DR are only descriptive terms and don not imply the belonging to a social class, as it is the case in the US. How can you be siblings and be considered a different race from eachother? Because "race" as it's seen here on the DR is just a physical descriptor and not a social class like it is in the US, where, if you're black, you're expected to behave according to some parameters and not to trespass them. “Since the two rarely come together, anyone compelled to choose will find greater security in being feared than in being loved.” Niccolo Machiavelli |
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| #34 - Posted 4 July 2009, 12:51 PM | |
Location: Dominican Republic, Parque Colon statue of Anacaona Join date: April 2009 Member #: 2573 Posts: 3334 | Quote: chillaxin201 previously said: Quote: cibaeño75 previously said: What does it mean to be Dominican to all of you who have lived many years, or perhaps your entire lives, here in the United States? What do we, the Dominican-Americans, symbolize to those of you who reside in DR? Well first of all, you know how many Dominican came to the U.S. to build a better life and ended up. Still broke. Sad! I don’t know what Dominicans in D.R. think of me. I am just some dude that came on a plane to see them from the cold empire up north. Dominicans in D.R. already know there really isn’t anything in the U.S. You might make more money in the U.S. but you live better in DR. Exiles; It’s sad that Dominicans must leave their homeland for what ever reason, economical, political and or medical. Poor Dominican that had to leave do to the Trujillo regime, some of those brave souls came back time and time again to rid us of him. “CAYO CONFITIS, 14 de Junio” Quote: troy310879 previously said: There is racism in the DR......White Dominicans look down on the rest, black and mixed Dominicans look up to the whites and mixed Dominicans look down on the blacks. Do you really think whites, blacks and biracial live in harmony in DR? All in Latin America there is racism towards the ones with more melanin; it isn't some nationalist paradise like you make it out to be. Send Pena Gomez and Hipolito Mejia to Mexico or some parts of South America and see who will get better treatment. This is very much true, is it the same in Cuba? I know Cuban Americans are very racist, Very!!!!! I also have been called racist, for not wanting to date or having anything to do with a certain Morena. But it had more to do with other factors then just her skin color. Just dont come back chill My daughter Yaina aka ". Chucky la Nina Diabolica " |
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| #35 - Posted 4 July 2009, 12:52 PM | |
Location: Canada, home safe Join date: January 2008 Member #: 268 Posts: 2578 | RE: Dominican-Americans..or...American-Dominicans Sorry the thread title ? when was it about race again ? I am out of here. We must accept finite disappointment, but never lose infinite hope. |
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| #36 - Posted 4 July 2009, 12:54 PM | |
Location: Dominican Republic, Santo Domingo Join date: December 2007 Member #: 38 Posts: 4364 | RE: Dominican-Americans..or...American-Dominicans Quote: troy310879 previously said: Which is why the poorest are black, the middle class are mixed and the upper class is white/quadroon? Have you ever seen a white dominican working in the fields and living in a hut? Reality is not that clear cut as you seem to imply, mr. troll. And yes, I have seen white dominican campesinos living in the most miserable of shacks and working their conucos on the Cordillera Central. Also, if you cared to take a look at the slums of Santo Domingo and Santiago, you'll find that there are plenty of mixed people (in fact, the majority of them) which are among the poorest of the poor. “Since the two rarely come together, anyone compelled to choose will find greater security in being feared than in being loved.” Niccolo Machiavelli |
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| #37 - Posted 4 July 2009, 12:55 PM | |
Location: Dominican Republic, Santo Domingo Join date: December 2007 Member #: 38 Posts: 4364 | RE: Dominican-Americans..or...American-Dominicans Quote: antonioj previously said: Sorry the thread title ? when was it about race again ? I am out of here. Don't close the door, I'll be out of here too. Edited on 7/4/2009 12:56 PM by Lautaro. “Since the two rarely come together, anyone compelled to choose will find greater security in being feared than in being loved.” Niccolo Machiavelli |
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| #38 - Posted 4 July 2009, 1:13 PM | |
Location: United States, "El Amanza GUAPOS, BIGOTS, TROLLS y SELF-PROCLAIMED DOMINICAN "PATRIOTS" De Villa Duarte" Join date: August 2008 Member #: 1255 Posts: 3826 | RE: Dominican-Americans..or...American-Dominicans Quote: Lautaro previously said: I am much more shocked you replied to this fool than that fool starting a thread about the DR.Quote: troy310879 previously said: Which is why the poorest are black, the middle class are mixed and the upper class is white/quadroon? Have you ever seen a white dominican working in the fields and living in a hut? Reality is not that clear cut as you seem to imply, mr. troll. And yes, I have seen white dominican campesinos living in the most miserable of shacks and working their conucos on the Cordillera Central. Also, if you cared to take a look at the slums of Santo Domingo and Santiago, you'll find that there are plenty of mixed people (in fact, the majority of them) which are among the poorest of the poor. The loser has been banned more times than all the homers hit by Hank Aaron. I Am The BOOOO!GEYMAN!!.....Hide The Kids And Stop The Dancing, Singing, Whining, Complaining and Crying....... El LEONAAAAZO De Villa Duarte No Estaba Muerto, Andaba De Parranda!. JAJAJAJA. |
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| #39 - Posted 4 July 2009, 1:26 PM | |
Location: Dominican Republic, Punta cana Join date: August 2008 Member #: 1219 Posts: 168 | RE: Dominican-Americans..or...American-Dominicans When the political machine in place intentionally breaks the law and refuses to offer a reasonable education to all, you get what we have now, Mass Ignorance, Crime and Corruption. The general population has no faith in the system and see's wholesale corruption from Lawyers, Polititions, Millitary, and the national Police. Everyone that should be honest is not. Everyone that should display honor and leadership doe's not. There is NO GOOD EXAMPLE. That my friend, is why there are millions of Dominicans living in other countries. |
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| #40 - Posted 4 July 2009, 1:33 PM | |
Location: United States Join date: May 2008 Member #: 783 Posts: 1099 | RE: Dominican-Americans..or...American-Dominicans This sounds all too familiar. Perhaps another question would be to ask those Non-Dominicans "what does Dominican or Dominican American represent. Dominicans too often are so caught up in nationalistic pride that they fail to see themselves for who they really are and equally important how others view them. Too often Dominicans fail to accept and acknowledge the truth behind what Dominicans represent albeit for political correctness hipocracy or convenience. Thus our sphere becomes untouchable and indelible from foreign criticism. I am one not to care about PC however there is within the Dominican social fabric a major idiosyncratic behavior that blurs the lines between hipocracy PC and diplomacy often disguised in double entendre (which could probably be traced to Trujillo era) that foster ambiguity and confusion. Being Dominican represents to me a failed democracy consisting a simple generous people who have been lied abused and fooled as well as conditioned through the years to accept conformity and complacency as a substitute for motivation in excellence. A people who have no faith and courage left except to survive at whatever cost. So, you don't like what's happening in DR.... |
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