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| #41 - Posted 4 July 2009, 2:44 PM | |
 Location: Dominican Republic, Parque Colon statue of Anacaona Join date: April 2009 Member #: 2573 Posts: 3334  |  RE: Dominican-Americans..or...American-DominicansQuote: ladronaso previously said: This sounds all too familiar. Perhaps another question would be to ask those Non-Dominicans "what does Dominican or Dominican American represent. Dominicans too often are so caught up in nationalistic pride that they fail to see themselves for who they really are and equally important how others view them. Too often Dominicans fail to accept and acknowledge the truth behind what Dominicans represent albeit for political correctness hipocracy or convenience. Thus our sphere becomes untouchable and indelible from foreign criticism. I am one not to care about PC however there is within the Dominican social fabric a major idiosyncratic behavior that blurs the lines between hipocracy PC and diplomacy often disguised in double entendre (which could probably be traced to Trujillo era) that foster ambiguity and confusion. Being Dominican represents to me a failed democracy consisting a simple generous people who have been lied abused and fooled as well as conditioned through the years to accept conformity and complacency as a substitute for motivation in excellence. A people who have no faith and courage left except to survive at whatever cost. Ladrone a seriously eloquent statement with some arguable parts but very thought provoking indeed  My daughter Yaina aka ". Chucky la Nina Diabolica " |
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| #42 - Posted 4 July 2009, 2:55 PM | |
Location: Dominican Republic, Parque Colon statue of Anacaona Join date: April 2009 Member #: 2573 Posts: 3334 | RE: When will they Ban this AFRONAZI get him out of here Yeah but we got great food not like you with your chitlins and gizzards you loser Afronazi  My daughter Yaina aka ". Chucky la Nina Diabolica " |
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| #43 - Posted 4 July 2009, 3:06 PM | |
 Location: United States, San Diego, CA - (Dei sitio) Join date: April 2009 Member #: 2589 Posts: 156 | RE: Dominican-Americans..or...American-Dominicans Quote: troy310879 previously said: Quote: FredCDobbs previously said: Quote: ladronaso previously said: This sounds all too familiar. Perhaps another question would be to ask those Non-Dominicans "what does Dominican or Dominican American represent. Dominicans too often are so caught up in nationalistic pride that they fail to see themselves for who they really are and equally important how others view them. Too often Dominicans fail to accept and acknowledge the truth behind what Dominicans represent albeit for political correctness hipocracy or convenience. Thus our sphere becomes untouchable and indelible from foreign criticism. I am one not to care about PC however there is within the Dominican social fabric a major idiosyncratic behavior that blurs the lines between hipocracy PC and diplomacy often disguised in double entendre (which could probably be traced to Trujillo era) that foster ambiguity and confusion. Being Dominican represents to me a failed democracy consisting a simple generous people who have been lied abused and fooled as well as conditioned through the years to accept conformity and complacency as a substitute for motivation in excellence. A people who have no faith and courage left except to survive at whatever cost. Ladrone a seriously eloquent statement with some arguable parts but very thought provoking indeed Aren't you Mexican? How about the millions of your people crossing the border and making southern california an unpleasant place to live? Southern California Economy is heavily dependant on Mexican visitors from Tijuana and Mexicali. Even during high peak of the "Cochi flu" H1N1, US government decision to keep the border gates opened. If these gates were closed for three months; San Diego economy will go bankrupt . Tout dépend de ce qu'on a comme outils. |
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| #44 - Posted 4 July 2009, 3:11 PM | |
Location: United States, San Diego, CA - (Dei sitio) Join date: April 2009 Member #: 2589 Posts: 156 | RE: Dominican-Americans..or...American-Dominicans Quote: troy310879 previously said: Mexicans hate Dominicans, why are you on here? Buddy, go somewhere else to spread your hate; Common Mexican people have never interacted or seen a Dominican in their whole life. I work 50% of my time in Tijuana, and people do not even know where the hell DR is located. During my stay in this region, the only thing people know about Dr is how good we are playing baseball. Tout dépend de ce qu'on a comme outils. |
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| #45 - Posted 4 July 2009, 6:30 PM | |
Location: Dominican Republic, America Join date: June 2009 Member #: 2891 Posts: 830 | RE: Dominican-Americans..or...American-Dominicans Quote: troy310879 previously said: Mexicans hate Dominicans, why are you on here? Everyone here hates you, why are you on here? |
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| #46 - Posted 4 July 2009, 6:39 PM | |
Location: Dominican Republic, America Join date: June 2009 Member #: 2891 Posts: 830 | RE: Dominican-Americans..or...American-Dominicans Quote: troy310879 previously said: Quote: HateroPardo previously said: Quote: troy310879 previously said: Mexicans hate Dominicans, why are you on here? Everyone here hates you, why are you on here? You don't contribute to anything, all you do is try hard to seem witty. little girl you have no idea who I am or how long I have been around these parts. you are a sick racist with a serious problem. it is sunny outside, go enjoy the 4th with your family. |
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| #47 - Posted 4 July 2009, 7:09 PM | |
 Location: United States, Santiago de los Caballeros Join date: March 2008 Member #: 498 Posts: 301 | RE: Dominican-Americans..or...American-Dominicans Well I've lived most of my life in the states, but it is very conforting to return to any part of the patria and still be wlecomed with open arms. This says a lot about our love for each other. Its not that you are treated like royalty, its more of a laid back reception where you go back to the spot thats always reserved for you. |
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| #48 - Posted 4 July 2009, 7:36 PM | |
 Location: United States Join date: June 2009 Member #: 2977 Posts: 1512 | RE: Dominican-Americans..or...American-Dominicans Quote: Lautaro previously said: Quote: antonioj previously said: Quote: Lautaro previously said: Quote: cibaeño75 previously said: What exactly did Junot state that inflames you so? He says that "dominican racism prepared me for the one that I would face in the US". When I read that the first time I was like WTF? That's the most nonsensical and bullshit opinion that I have ever read someone utter in my entire life. Benedict Arnoldism at its finest.  Mr Lautaro were you educated in DR ? or have you ever spend time abroad at all ? I was educated here on the DR, but I have done my share of journeys over the years (US, Brazil, Panama, Europe, etc.), and believe me, nothing can be compared with the humilliations and degradation that the US one drop rule can bring. Some of my best buddies has been traumatized for life by this nonsensical pseudo-ideological BS. Yeah, the ramifications of such a bizarre and foreign concept can be damaging. Most of my cousins in the States fit the "latino" look so the one drop rule doesn't affect them so much, but I do hear Hispanics in general getting furious over such an idea (obviously mostly Caribbean Hispanics or "East Coast Hispanics" as Mexicans or "West Coast Hispanics" usually don't have any noticeable percentage of SSA ancestry). People (who have heard of Dominicans) usually get surprised when I say I'm Dominican because of the Sammy Sosa stereotype. Even other Hispanics, until they hear me talk.  |
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| #49 - Posted 4 July 2009, 7:40 PM | |
Location: United States Join date: June 2009 Member #: 2977 Posts: 1512 | RE: Dominican-Americans..or...American-Dominicans Quote: Lautaro previously said: Quote: antonioj previously said: Quote: Lautaro previously said: Quote: antonioj previously said: Quote: Lautaro previously said: Quote: cibaeño75 previously said: What exactly did Junot state that inflames you so? He says that "dominican racism prepared me for the one that I would face in the US". When I read that the first time I was like WTF? That's the most nonsensical and bullshit opinion that I have ever read someone utter in my entire life. Benedict Arnoldism at its finest. Mr Lautaro were you educated in DR ? or have you ever spend time abroad at all ? I was educated here on the DR, but I have done my share of journeys over the years (US, Brazil, Panama, Europe, etc.), and believe me, nothing can be compared with the humilliations and degradation that the US one drop rule can bring. Some of my best buddies has been traumatized for life by this nonsensical pseudo-ideological BS. Thank you for responding, how would you characterize your experience living abroad USA versus Europe?. I envy you to have spent time in europe, I must say we are very fortunate to have you, dread ciby and all the others that have decided to call DT home, a tool to learn and share the dominicans, history culture and the many point of view that exist out there. Well, living in Europe is not that different from living in Canada, mon ami, and I could say that at the very least, the europeans that do despise us are more honest about it, contrary to the hypocrisy and veiled contempt that one can see in the US. As far as living in Europe in conjunction with my previous reply to your comment on the One Drop Rule, I found no ODR being applied which was surprising. The lack of it historically plus the fact that most Black people I saw were DIRECTLY from Africa put in the minds of Europeans as Black meaning a very specific thing. This is not to say that Europe does not have it's fair share of racism, as it does. They just don't group everyone by hypodescent. |
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| #50 - Posted 4 July 2009, 7:42 PM | |
Location: United States Join date: June 2009 Member #: 2977 Posts: 1512 | RE: Dominican-Americans..or...American-Dominicans Quote: Lautaro previously said: Quote: troy310879 previously said: Heres a good article about racism in the DR: http://www.nathanielturner.com/kiiniiburasalaam2.htm And no she isn't an afro centrist who thinks all Dominicans are black, she is simply talking about the racism she experienced there. http://thestudyofracialism.org/about402.html&highlight=kiiniibura+salaam I keep being surprised that people reference that forum on here. Do you post? It single handily opened a lot of knowledge up for me concerning racialism, genetics, and myths. |
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