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#71 - Posted 18 July 2009, 2:20 PM
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anybody that has a command of the spanish language will never be considered foreign. nobody can ever talk about you. good going chic you are right.



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#72 - Posted 18 July 2009, 2:42 PM
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anybody that has a command of the spanish language will never be considered foreign. nobody can ever talk about you. good going chic you are right.





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#73 - Posted 19 July 2009, 5:02 PM
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anybody that has a command of the spanish language will never be considered foreign. nobody can ever talk about you. good going chic you are right.





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#74 - Posted 20 July 2009, 3:30 PM
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anybody that has a command of the spanish language will never be considered foreign. nobody can ever talk about you. good going chic you are right.





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#75 - Posted 20 July 2009, 4:32 PM
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anybody that has a command of the spanish language will never be considered foreign. nobody can ever talk about you. good going chic you are right.





Marabela, eres un gran tonto, y bueno para nada. dejar de burlarse de mi Inglés. por lo menos voy a la escuela para mejorar y usted?


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#76 - Posted 20 July 2009, 5:22 PM
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anybody that has a command of the spanish language will never be considered foreign. nobody can ever talk about you. good going chic you are right.







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#77 - Posted 20 July 2009, 6:18 PM
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I think they are receptive of our money ,but when it comes time for us to give an opinion they consider us gringos.

My family already had enough problems with acceptance due to the fact that we "do not look Dominican" so we get called tourists unless we are in our own area.

Now to your question,I don't think it is something static,in other words the feelings evolve .

When we first arrived our first allegiance was to our immediate area in DR ,our ¨paisanos¨ (in the European definition) people not from our immediate area or outside our clan were considered ¨forasteros¨ .We kept to ourselves and usually interacted with members of our clan and those from surrounding areas.To us someone from the Capital ,Haina or Barahona were almost the same as someone from Chile and in certain circumstances less like us. Many of the words and foods that are considered ¨typical¨Dominican by some are foods we did not know about and many of our expressions,seasoning and foods were not understood by people from the different areas.

In time and away from our origins we became more ¨Dominican¨in the General sense of the word ,as we interacted with other Dominicans we adopted many words ,cooking styles and habits that would have been frowned upon in our local culture ,we still buried our dead in DR and we now felt Dominican in the full extent.

In the current stage many of us while still feeling love for our country of origin have come to love this nation that as accepted us and nurtured us ,in my personal case it took September 11 to finally make me realize my love for this nation and my willingness to sacrifice for this nation.

Now these are only my personal observations and only describe my experience and point of view from ¨¨el Cibao Adentro¨ which obviously does not describe the nation as a whole and how each regions citizens react to being in the diaspora.

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#78 - Posted 20 July 2009, 6:20 PM
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There is racism in the DR......White Dominicans look down on the rest, black and mixed Dominicans look up to the whites and mixed Dominicans look down on the blacks. Do you really think whites, blacks and biracial live in harmony in DR? All in Latin America there is racism towards the ones with more melanin; it isn't some nationalist paradise like you make it out to be. Send Pena Gomez and Hipolito Mejia to Mexico or some parts of South America and see who will get better treatment.


It´s obvious Hipolito would be treated better ....

He is Alive and corpses like Peña Gomez don´t get good treatment anywhere!
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#79 - Posted 20 July 2009, 6:24 PM
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This is very much true, is it the same in Cuba?
I know Cuban Americans are very racist, Very!!!!!

I also have been called racist, for not wanting to date or having anything to do with a certain Morena. But it had more to do with other factors then just her skin color.

Now communist Cuba ,that´s racial paradise!!!

No blacks in the upper echelons of government yet a large percentage of jineteros and jineteras are dark skinned.
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#80 - Posted 20 July 2009, 6:27 PM
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I think they are receptive of our money ,but when it comes time for us to give an opinion they consider us gringos.

My family already had enough problems with acceptance due to the fact that we "do not look Dominican" so we get called tourists unless we are in our own area.

Now to your question,I don't think it is something static,in other words the feelings evolve .

When we first arrived our first allegiance was to our immediate area in DR ,our ¨paisanos¨ (in the European definition) people not from our immediate area or outside our clan were considered ¨forasteros¨ .We kept to ourselves and usually interacted with members of our clan and those from surrounding areas.To us someone from the Capital ,Haina or Barahona were almost the same as someone from Chile and in certain circumstances less like us. Many of the words and foods that are considered ¨typical¨Dominican by some are foods we did not know about and many of our expressions,seasoning and foods were not understood by people from the different areas.

In time and away from our origins we became more ¨Dominican¨in the General sense of the word ,as we interacted with other Dominicans we adopted many words ,cooking styles and habits that would have been frowned upon in our local culture ,we still buried our dead in DR and we now felt Dominican in the full extent.

In the current stage many of us while still feeling love for our country of origin have come to love this nation that as accepted us and nurtured us ,in my personal case it took September 11 to finally make me realize my love for this nation and my willingness to sacrifice for this nation.

Now these are only my personal observations and only describe my experience and point of view from ¨¨el Cibao Adentro¨ which obviously does not describe the nation as a whole and how each regions citizens react to being in the diaspora.





The area highlighted: That's pretty much how I was raised to think as well. My home had a very narrow view of what it was to indeed be Dominican and it was reinfoced by my trips and long sojourns back to my region of the island in my younger days. Oddly enough my sense of a greater Dominican brotherhood was reinforced by Dominicans from other areas that I interacted with here in the states. Thank you for such an honest post.
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