#21 - Posted 20 May 2008, 5:29 PM
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I thought it was a thread about "Quisqueya La Bella"
Isn't it?
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#22 - Posted 20 May 2008, 6:09 PM
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Quisqueya La Bella, Not Quite Yet.
RATHER PRAISE BE TO BRAZIL:
Most Deserving Of "Quisqueya La Bella" Title.
By Wilgeens "QuisqueyanoYoSoy" Rosenberg
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To think Brazil of having been the last place in the Americas to have abolished slavery, gained its independence in 1822, but was recognized independent in 1925 and actually became an official Republic in 1889. Wow, Brazil is to serve as exemplary that it has shown the world that the defeat of racism is way above probability, and indeed possible.

Yet sadly, the Dominican Republic is right next door to Haiti and want to claim supremacy because of recent economical gain in 2004 and has yet to show any dignifying approach on important issues which the entire Island of Hispaniola needs to prosper or even survive all together.

Until the Dominican Republic can live up to those dignified standards that is when it will be worthy of such a title "Quisqueya La Bella" which in fact does not belong to the Dominican Republic alone. Let us all get it straight and right by knowing and remembering simple basic history that when the word or name Quisqueya is mentioned, implied and said you are saying and referring to both Countries Haiti and the Dominican Republic. As I recall, the whole Island's names are Ayti, Quisqueya or Bohio and now Hispaniola. Thus another paradigm in contradiction of confusion along with denial for DR to deal with. Romanticize this into a positive for once.

Something perhaps that both Haiti and the Dominican Republic might want to look into: "Ordem e Progresso = Order and Progress." Until both poor Haiti and not so poor Dominican Republic can succeed in the arenas of Human Rights and Justice, no other kind of prosperity, thus economical and political stability would mean anything without the improvement and success over the social and humanity issues.

Words Of HispanolanoYoSoy: One can be rich and still is or die a nobody, whereas one can be poor and always is or live a somebody.
Edited on 5/20/2008 6:17 PM by HispanolanoYoSoy.
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#23 - Posted 20 May 2008, 6:27 PM
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RE: Quisqueya La Bella, Not Quite Yet.
Let's stick to the topic at hand. What makes the Dominican Republic such a beautiful place?

The people, the beaches, the rivers, the food, Presidente , brugal, the temperature, the woman, the temperature, Merengue, bachata, mamajuana, el malecon, el monumento, and in short the DOMINICAN CULTURE.

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I thought it was a thread about "Quisqueya La Bella"
Isn't it?


Oh it still is, but who should be this Quisqueya La Bella is yet to be in deserving reaching realm for DR which still embraces barbaric Spania and Trujilloism mentalities, and which by the way that such a realm to be reached is not DR's alone to claim. There goes DR again stealing all the positive things that describe the whole Island and claim them as theirs and wish to give Haiti all the negatives in effort to steal the Glorious thunder of What Haiti represent in the History of the WORLD. Like how DR has restaurants in DR that says COMIDA CRIOLA uhm... and when you go inside, not a single Creole in there. So how you adopt the title of someone's cultural food and reject them for their race or color of their skin?

Now I am beginning to see, the Xenophobia of DR has more to do with Envy and Jealousy more so than it has to do with anything else (For those who are not too bright, that jealousy is not meant in a materialistic sense).

You see agree or disagree, Haiti is like the one brother or to satisfy most racist Dominicans let me just say the one cousin who will always have the unconditional love of Mother or Aunty Hispaniola which DR feels resentful of because no matter how great they may become, try to be or to overshadow that brother or cousin's grace Mother or Aunty Hispaniola still gives Haiti the deserving needed attention and admiration she has for Haiti. So DR's hatred grew stronger and made an enemy of or with that brother or cousin Haiti which all along has been a matter of insecurity and cry for love and attention from Mother or Aunty Hispaniola.

Which by the way DR has yet to understand and does not have the time nor capacity of heart to realize that because of that lack of attention from Mother or Aunty Hispaniola it has made them better and stronger for it, but because DR has allowing its anger toward that brother or cousin to show and transcend it has become more apparent that a failed and unstable Haiti would serve DR's purpose of existence and even then in DR's alleged or supposedly gain of economical success it still can not show mercy nor pity to learn to put aside that hatred which has long grown way too strong to stir away from.

PS: I am neither pro or anti-Dominican as I am also neither pro or anti-Haitian. I am only PRO-HIPSANIOLA y es porque QuisqueyanoYoSoy.
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#25 - Posted 20 May 2008, 7:31 PM
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Let's stick to the topic at hand. What makes the Dominican Republic such a beautiful place?

The people, the beaches, the rivers, the food, Presidente , brugal, the temperature, the woman, the temperature, Merengue, bachata, mamajuana, el malecon, el monumento, and in short the DOMINICAN CULTURE.


The subject actually is Quisqueya La Bella which I repeat the name Quisqueya does not belong to the Dominican Republic alone which makes debating it the topic at hand and more relevant since you used the name Quisqueya which is not DR's alone.

Thus I am happy that you took that word Quisqueya out and say only "What makes the Dominican Republic such a beautiful place?" is a more politically correct and acceptable formation in words for the question to be properly right to be asked. So indeed fair to say allthose reasons are valid to say why Dr is such a beautiful place, but now by saying the word BEAUTIFUL. How much beauty is there when DR is still holding on to the Trujilloism mentality?

If that is the case those those things you have listed above are what makes DR beautiful then regardless of economical or political instability or lack of infrastructure there is in Haiti, Haiti can say the same since it has all those things as well: The people (Unless to DR and many other racists dark skin is not a beautiful thing; but say that to Brazilians who adore the dark skin as most people of color shoud), the beaches, the rivers, Prestige and Barbancourt the same temparature and indeed the women, Compa, troubadou and zouk and same thing Mamajuana (Not Marijuana), the arts and history, and let us not talk or even mention Monuments and in short as well the phenomenal HAITIAN CULTURE.

PS: I have never hear from the mouth of most Dominicans to give glory to the entire Island as a whole for its beauty. That is how much DR and yes Haiti too are stuck on race and hatred or past resentments and that my friend overshadows most of what is beautiful about DR or Haiti, the whole Island. A lot of tourists would not go to the Island simply because they see a lack of co-existing cohesion or unity between Haitians and Dominicans. Just as much as there are some tourists who will not care and go to the Island of Hispaniola anyways since all the want to do is go there and F4ck our women, exploit our natural resources, looking down to our people and not give a rat's ass about our rich culture and history of our dear Island.

That is why both Haitians and Dominicans have an obligation to the Island to stand up and say... Los Bellos Quisqueyanos/ Quisqueyanas Ahora Juntos
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#26 - Posted 21 May 2008, 10:24 AM
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The subject actually is Quisqueya La Bella which I repeat the name Quisqueya does not belong to the Dominican Republic alone which makes debating it the topic at hand and more relevant since you used the name Quisqueya which is not DR's alone.

Thus I am happy that you took that word Quisqueya out and say only "What makes the Dominican Republic such a beautiful place?" is a more politically correct and acceptable formation in words for the question to be properly right to be asked.


Case in point from the other thread Hispanolano... I think it was clear and evident what was being asked in this thread. Do you consider it activism to turn internet discussions into battles over 'political correctness'? The original poster went out of his way to provide a thread to discuss each nation's beauty, but for the sake of semantics you decided to take a big text-filled dump on him.
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Quote:
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The subject actually is Quisqueya La Bella which I repeat the name Quisqueya does not belong to the Dominican Republic alone which makes debating it the topic at hand and more relevant since you used the name Quisqueya which is not DR's alone.

Thus I am happy that you took that word Quisqueya out and say only "What makes the Dominican Republic such a beautiful place?" is a more politically correct and acceptable formation in words for the question to be properly right to be asked.


Case in point from the other thread Hispanolano... I think it was clear and evident what was being asked in this thread. Do you consider it activism to turn internet discussions into battles over 'political correctness'? The original poster went out of his way to provide a thread to discuss each nation's beauty, but for the sake of semantics you decided to take a big text-filled dump on him.


No, not even... in fact we have credited NY4LIFE many times for not being racist as most Dominicans who actually are. I am not just trying to only get the semantics and the technicalities right through activism.

However and in fact they (those semantics) are the underestimated denied factors where most Dominican xenophobes originated in thinking they have entitlements on all that is beautiful about the whole Island and intentionally trying to claim all that is negative are from the other side of the Island all that are still the subjectivity of their supremacist resented racism and discrimination towards Haitians. Like I will always say and will not stop saying, do not even try to say that I am defending only the cause of Haiti and Haitians because I Dominican and I defend DR as well. I am defending equality which is why my user name is the whole Island and not just one side of the Island. You cannot try to take credit for all that is good and brush aside the negativism as well.

Until both Nation can do that, neither of them are in deserving level for that title "Quisqueya La Bella" and like I said which does not belong to DR only or alone.
Edited on 5/21/2008 8:54 PM by YoSoyHispanolano.
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#28 - Posted 22 May 2008, 12:21 AM
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RE: Quisqueya La Bella, Not Quite Yet.
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Quote:
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Quote:
HispanolanoYoSoy previously said:
The subject actually is Quisqueya La Bella which I repeat the name Quisqueya does not belong to the Dominican Republic alone which makes debating it the topic at hand and more relevant since you used the name Quisqueya which is not DR's alone.

Thus I am happy that you took that word Quisqueya out and say only "What makes the Dominican Republic such a beautiful place?" is a more politically correct and acceptable formation in words for the question to be properly right to be asked.


Case in point from the other thread Hispanolano... I think it was clear and evident what was being asked in this thread. Do you consider it activism to turn internet discussions into battles over 'political correctness'? The original poster went out of his way to provide a thread to discuss each nation's beauty, but for the sake of semantics you decided to take a big text-filled dump on him.


No, not even... in fact we have credited NY4LIFE many times for not being racist as most Dominicans who actually are. I am not just trying to only get the semantics and the technicalities right through activism.

However and in fact they (those semantics) are the underestimated denied factors where most Dominican xenophobes originated in thinking they have entitlements on all that is beautiful about the whole Island and intentionally trying to claim all that is negative are from the other side of the Island all that are still the subjectivity of their supremacist resented racism and discrimination towards Haitians. Like I will always say and will not stop saying, do not even try to say that I am defending only the cause of Haiti and Haitians because I Dominican and I defend DR as well. I am defending equality which is why my user name is the whole Island and not just one side of the Island. You cannot try to take credit for all that is good and brush aside the negativism as well.

Until both Nation can do that, neither of them are in deserving level for that title "Quisqueya La Bella" and like I said which does not belong to DR only or alone.


This topic is about "Quisqueya la bella" and not "Quisqueya la belle". This topic specifically talks about the Dominican Republic and if you have issues with that than that's your problem. Dominicans claim Quisqueya from the inception of the country with the lyrics in the national anthem while Haitians favor the use of Haiti which was one of names for the island before. We both share the same island and it doesn't really matter in the end which name we use b/c we are both divided into to separate nations and are nationals of those soverign countries. Nowadays, the name of the island is Hispanola. Yes, Dominicans do claim Quisqueya but I have never heard a Haitian refer to themselves a Quisqueyano.

Moreover, let's stick to the topic, What makes "Quisqueya la bella", the Dominican Republic such a beautiful place?


Edited on 5/23/2008 1:24 PM by ny4life.
#29 - Posted 22 May 2008, 12:23 PM
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When people talk about Dominican Republic, the first thing that comes to their mind is our beaches, and I don't blame them for that.

If not look at punta cana beach

Edited on 5/22/2008 12:24 PM by MrDom.
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Amazing. It makes me regret every dime I'm wasting going to Miami Beach at the end of the month...but my dumb-ass cousin still thinks DR is the way he remembered it from early 90s and refuses to go.
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