Quisqueya La Bella - Santo Domingo

RE: Quisqueya La Bella, Not Quite Yet.

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HispanolanoYoSoy previously said:
The subject actually is Quisqueya La Bella which I repeat the name Quisqueya does not belong to the Dominican Republic alone which makes debating it the topic at hand and more relevant since you used the name Quisqueya which is not DR's alone.

Thus I am happy that you took that word Quisqueya out and say only "What makes the Dominican Republic such a beautiful place?" is a more politically correct and acceptable formation in words for the question to be properly right to be asked.

Case in point from the other thread Hispanolano... I think it was clear and evident what was being asked in this thread. Do you consider it activism to turn internet discussions into battles over 'political correctness'? The original poster went out of his way to provide a thread to discuss each nation's beauty, but for the sake of semantics you decided to take a big text-filled dump on him.

No, not even... in fact we have credited NY4LIFE many times for not being racist as most Dominicans who actually are. I am not just trying to only get the semantics and the technicalities right through activism.

However and in fact they (those semantics) are the underestimated denied factors where most Dominican xenophobes originated in thinking they have entitlements on all that is beautiful about the whole Island and intentionally trying to claim all that is negative are from the other side of the Island all that are still the subjectivity of their supremacist resented racism and discrimination towards Haitians. Like I will always say and will not stop saying, do not even try to say that I am defending only the cause of Haiti and Haitians because I Dominican and I defend DR as well. I am defending equality which is why my user name is the whole Island and not just one side of the Island. You cannot try to take credit for all that is good and brush aside the negativism as well.

Until both Nation can do that, neither of them are in deserving level for that title "Quisqueya La Bella" and like I said which does not belong to DR only or alone.

This topic is about "Quisqueya la bella" and not "Quisqueya la belle". This topic specifically talks about the Dominican Republic and if you have issues with that than that's your problem. Dominicans claim Quisqueya from the inception of the country with the lyrics in the national anthem while Haitians favor the use of Haiti which was one of names for the island before. We both share the same island and it doesn't really matter in the end which name we use b/c we are both divided into to separate nations and are nationals of those soverign countries. Nowadays, the name of the island is Hispanola. Yes, Dominicans do claim Quisqueya but I have never heard a Haitian refer to themselves a Quisqueyano.

Moreover, let's stick to the topic, What makes "Quisqueya la bella", the Dominican Republic such a beautiful place?

I did not think I would have had to result to simple basic preparatory or elementary wikipedia level to let you know that when you used the name Quisqueya, like it or not, it refers to both nations or better yet; the entire Island period and unless you are from that specific municipio of the San Pedro De Macoris province area in DR as well as in Haiti in the Northern region of Port-De-Paix and Cape-Haitian there is the nearby City and town of Quisqueya that carries the name.

I have provided some links for you down bellow dear brother. You can get all frustrated with this all you may brother, if you wanted to ask a question on the aspect of the beauty of the Dominican Republic alone, you must indeed simply say THE DOMINICAN REPUBLIC regardless if per assumption you feel people who are from DR would understand that you supposedly mean them. All I said is that neither DR or Haiti is now worthy of the name since they both holding to stupid resentments which we must rid of if we are to be "Una Quiqueya Bella" or to be able to talk about what makes either DR or Haiti thus the whole Island beautiful. I will always keep saying that the name is not DR's alone to claim as they always try to be the first to do so.

Look it up dear friend: Kiskeya is, along with Ayiti and Bohio, a Taino indian name for the island that is today shared by the Dominican Republic and Haiti. Again, Quisqueya is a name for the island of Hispaniola in the Taíno language meaning "mother of the earth", but the name has been adopted more by Dominicans as though the name only refers to themselves and them alone and neglect that it also belong to Haiti as well which is also one of the two countries on this island.

HAITIANS always refer themselves as Quisqueya (Kiskeya for creole) yet always give recognition tht the name does not belong to them only. Hatians have always knowns to include DR when usuing the name as well as they give credit to the name having being the whole Island's name given by the Natives who first roamed the Island. Haiti holds the trend name in many diverse domain in the Country from many national food production trend names to businesses and institution such as:

http://www.radiokiskeya.com
http://www.nkfz.com
http://www.hartford-hwp.com/archives/41/index-fo.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taíno
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Haiti
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_Dominican_Republic

Edited on 5/26/2008 4:19 AM by HispanolanoYoSoy.

Wilgeens Rosenberg
"That Dominican-Haitian-Jewish Kid"
HispanolanoYoSoy
Wilgeens.Rosenberg@gmail.com

#35 - Posted 26 May 2008, 11:34 PM
ny4life Location: United States, New York, NY Join date: December 2007 Member #: 16 Posts: 586	RE: Quisqueya La Bella, Not Quite Yet. Quote: HispanolanoYoSoy previously said: Quote: ny4life previously said: Quote: YoSoyHispanolano previously said: Quote: Manhattanite previously said: Quote: HispanolanoYoSoy previously said: The subject actually is Quisqueya La Bella which I repeat the name Quisqueya does not belong to the Dominican Republic alone which makes debating it the topic at hand and more relevant since you used the name Quisqueya which is not DR's alone. Thus I am happy that you took that word Quisqueya out and say only "What makes the Dominican Republic such a beautiful place?" is a more politically correct and acceptable formation in words for the question to be properly right to be asked. Case in point from the other thread Hispanolano... I think it was clear and evident what was being asked in this thread. Do you consider it activism to turn internet discussions into battles over 'political correctness'? The original poster went out of his way to provide a thread to discuss each nation's beauty, but for the sake of semantics you decided to take a big text-filled dump on him. No, not even... in fact we have credited NY4LIFE many times for not being racist as most Dominicans who actually are. I am not just trying to only get the semantics and the technicalities right through activism. However and in fact they (those semantics) are the underestimated denied factors where most Dominican xenophobes originated in thinking they have entitlements on all that is beautiful about the whole Island and intentionally trying to claim all that is negative are from the other side of the Island all that are still the subjectivity of their supremacist resented racism and discrimination towards Haitians. Like I will always say and will not stop saying, do not even try to say that I am defending only the cause of Haiti and Haitians because I Dominican and I defend DR as well. I am defending equality which is why my user name is the whole Island and not just one side of the Island. You cannot try to take credit for all that is good and brush aside the negativism as well. Until both Nation can do that, neither of them are in deserving level for that title "Quisqueya La Bella" and like I said which does not belong to DR only or alone. This topic is about "Quisqueya la bella" and not "Quisqueya la belle". This topic specifically talks about the Dominican Republic and if you have issues with that than that's your problem. Dominicans claim Quisqueya from the inception of the country with the lyrics in the national anthem while Haitians favor the use of Haiti which was one of names for the island before. We both share the same island and it doesn't really matter in the end which name we use b/c we are both divided into to separate nations and are nationals of those soverign countries. Nowadays, the name of the island is Hispanola. Yes, Dominicans do claim Quisqueya but I have never heard a Haitian refer to themselves a Quisqueyano. Moreover, let's stick to the topic, What makes "Quisqueya la bella", the Dominican Republic such a beautiful place? I did not think I would have had to result to simple basic preparatory or elementary wikipedia level to let you know that when you used the name Quisqueya, like it or not, it refers to both nations or better yet; the entire Island period and unless you are from that specific municipio of the San Pedro De Macoris province area in DR as well as in Haiti in the Northern region of Port-De-Paix and Cape-Haitian there is the nearby City and town of Quisqueya that carries the name. I have provided some links for you down bellow dear brother. You can get all frustrated with this all you may brother, if you wanted to ask a question on the aspect of the beauty of the Dominican Republic alone, you must indeed simply say THE DOMINICAN REPUBLIC regardless if per assumption you feel people who are from DR would understand that you supposedly mean them. All I said is that neither DR or Haiti is now worthy of the name since they both holding to stupid resentments which we must rid of if we are to be "Una Quiqueya Bella" or to be able to talk about what makes either DR or Haiti thus the whole Island beautiful. I will always keep saying that the name is not DR's alone to claim as they always try to be the first to do so. Look it up dear friend: Kiskeya is, along with Ayiti and Bohio, a Taino indian name for the island that is today shared by the Dominican Republic and Haiti. Again, Quisqueya is a name for the island of Hispaniola in the Taíno language meaning "mother of the earth", but the name has been adopted more by Dominicans as though the name only refers to themselves and them alone and neglect that it also belong to Haiti as well which is also one of the two countries on this island. HAITIANS always refer themselves as Quisqueya (Kiskeya for creole) yet always give recognition tht the name does not belong to them only. Hatians have always knowns to include DR when usuing the name as well as they give credit to the name having being the whole Island's name given by the Natives who first roamed the Island. Haiti holds the trend name in many diverse domain in the Country from many national food production trend names to businesses and institution such as: http://www.radiokiskeya.com http://www.nkfz.com http://www.hartford-hwp.com/archives/41/index-fo.html http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taíno http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Haiti http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_Dominican_Republic Quisqueya la Bella is being referred to DR in this instance. Everything written here doesn't have to be about Haiti. There are other topics on this forum about Haiti. This one my dear friend talks about the Dominican Republic. After all, remember this is a Dominican websites, were Dominican topics are the most important. Like it or not. It's Dominicantoday.com for a reason. Edited on 5/27/2008 1:59 AM by ny4life.

#31 - Posted 22 May 2008, 12:34 PM
ny4life Location: United States, New York, NY Join date: December 2007 Member #: 16 Posts: 586	RE: Quisqueya La Bella Quote: Manhattanite previously said: Amazing. It makes me regret every dime I'm wasting going to Miami Beach at the end of the month...but my dumb-ass cousin still thinks DR is the way he remembered it from early 90s and refuses to go. Go to Punta Cana. The water is crystal clear. The beaches and the environment is nice over there. There are a few clubs in the resorts. I specifically remember Mangu and Areito. The crowd is mixed with Dominicans and Foreigners (USA, European mostly). DR has definitely changed man and it will continue to do so for the better. I've been to Paradise Island in the Bahamas and I was blown away by the beach there but when I went to Punta Cana the beach was comparable if not better. Definitely go. It's worth it! Edited on 5/22/2008 12:35 PM by ny4life.

#32 - Posted 23 May 2008, 7:58 PM
Elfuerte2009 Location: United States, Atalntic City,NJ ,Corona,queens,Santiago Join date: May 2008 Member #: 796 Posts: 8	RE: Quisqueya La Bella lo mejor del pais es,las cabañas,monte bar las colinas,car wash y tirar frias,los rios,el monumento,el campo,andy ranch,los tipicazos ...etc.....etc...lo cueros...etc..

#33 - Posted 26 May 2008, 2:52 AM
HispanolanoYoSoy Location: United States, Smyrna, GA Join date: February 2008 Member #: 374 Posts: 522	Is "Quisqueya La Bella" For Angel Luis Joseph? Ángel Luis Joseph, 17, training with a friend near San Pedro de Macoris, the Dominican Republic. His status as the child of Haitian immigrants threatens his dream of playing in the United States. By MARC LACEY Published: May 25, 2008 SAN PEDRO DE MACORIS, Dominican Republic — Two obsessions define this country: baseball and Haiti. Ángel Luis Joseph, a teenage outfielder with a hot bat, is caught between Dominicans’ devotion to the one and disdain for the other. So many major leaguers have emerged from this sugar town that agents keep an eye on even pint-size players with potential. Ángel, 17, was only a lanky grade school boy when his coach noticed he showed all the signs of becoming a standout. Before long, the San Francisco Giants came calling with a $350,000 offer, he said. But then politics interfered with his dream. To obtain a visa to the United States, Ángel went to a local government office to get a copy of his birth certificate. Little did he know that the Dominican government had recently begun a crackdown on the children of Haitian immigrants, even those like him who have lived their whole lives in the Dominican Republic. “If your last name is weird, they won’t give you your documents,” he said. “Same thing if your skin is dark like mine.” Ángel’s request for his birth record was denied, prompting the Giants to withdraw the offer. His parents, like hundreds of thousands of others, moved from Haiti to the Dominican Republic in the 1970s to work in the sugar cane fields. Their children were born in the Dominican Republic, grew up here and became, in their eyes at least, full-fledged Dominicans. They speak Spanish, dance merengue and play “pelota,” the popular name for the Dominican pastime baseball. “They don’t play baseball in Haiti,” said Melanie Teff, who has studied the issue for Refugees International, an advocacy group in Washington. “That shows how Dominican this guy and many people like him are.” DOMINICAN CRACKDOWN LEAVES CHILDREN OF HAITIAN IMMIGRANTS IN LEGAL LIMBO. By Francesco Broli for The New York Times. READ MORE ON THIS ARTICLE: http://www.nytimes.com/2008/05/25/world/americas/25dominican.html?n=Top/Reference/Times%20Topics/People/L/Lacey,%20Marc Edited on 5/26/2008 2:53 AM by HispanolanoYoSoy. Wilgeens Rosenberg "That Dominican-Haitian-Jewish Kid" HispanolanoYoSoy Wilgeens.Rosenberg@gmail.com

#34 - Posted 26 May 2008, 3:41 AM
HispanolanoYoSoy Location: United States, Smyrna, GA Join date: February 2008 Member #: 374 Posts: 522	RE: Quisqueya La Bella, Not Quite Yet. Quote: ny4life previously said: Quote: YoSoyHispanolano previously said: Quote: Manhattanite previously said: Quote: HispanolanoYoSoy previously said: The subject actually is Quisqueya La Bella which I repeat the name Quisqueya does not belong to the Dominican Republic alone which makes debating it the topic at hand and more relevant since you used the name Quisqueya which is not DR's alone. Thus I am happy that you took that word Quisqueya out and say only "What makes the Dominican Republic such a beautiful place?" is a more politically correct and acceptable formation in words for the question to be properly right to be asked. Case in point from the other thread Hispanolano... I think it was clear and evident what was being asked in this thread. Do you consider it activism to turn internet discussions into battles over 'political correctness'? The original poster went out of his way to provide a thread to discuss each nation's beauty, but for the sake of semantics you decided to take a big text-filled dump on him. No, not even... in fact we have credited NY4LIFE many times for not being racist as most Dominicans who actually are. I am not just trying to only get the semantics and the technicalities right through activism. However and in fact they (those semantics) are the underestimated denied factors where most Dominican xenophobes originated in thinking they have entitlements on all that is beautiful about the whole Island and intentionally trying to claim all that is negative are from the other side of the Island all that are still the subjectivity of their supremacist resented racism and discrimination towards Haitians. Like I will always say and will not stop saying, do not even try to say that I am defending only the cause of Haiti and Haitians because I Dominican and I defend DR as well. I am defending equality which is why my user name is the whole Island and not just one side of the Island. You cannot try to take credit for all that is good and brush aside the negativism as well. Until both Nation can do that, neither of them are in deserving level for that title "Quisqueya La Bella" and like I said which does not belong to DR only or alone. This topic is about "Quisqueya la bella" and not "Quisqueya la belle". This topic specifically talks about the Dominican Republic and if you have issues with that than that's your problem. Dominicans claim Quisqueya from the inception of the country with the lyrics in the national anthem while Haitians favor the use of Haiti which was one of names for the island before. We both share the same island and it doesn't really matter in the end which name we use b/c we are both divided into to separate nations and are nationals of those soverign countries. Nowadays, the name of the island is Hispanola. Yes, Dominicans do claim Quisqueya but I have never heard a Haitian refer to themselves a Quisqueyano. Moreover, let's stick to the topic, What makes "Quisqueya la bella", the Dominican Republic such a beautiful place? I did not think I would have had to result to simple basic preparatory or elementary wikipedia level to let you know that when you used the name Quisqueya, like it or not, it refers to both nations or better yet; the entire Island period and unless you are from that specific municipio of the San Pedro De Macoris province area in DR as well as in Haiti in the Northern region of Port-De-Paix and Cape-Haitian there is the nearby City and town of Quisqueya that carries the name. I have provided some links for you down bellow dear brother. You can get all frustrated with this all you may brother, if you wanted to ask a question on the aspect of the beauty of the Dominican Republic alone, you must indeed simply say THE DOMINICAN REPUBLIC regardless if per assumption you feel people who are from DR would understand that you supposedly mean them. All I said is that neither DR or Haiti is now worthy of the name since they both holding to stupid resentments which we must rid of if we are to be "Una Quiqueya Bella" or to be able to talk about what makes either DR or Haiti thus the whole Island beautiful. I will always keep saying that the name is not DR's alone to claim as they always try to be the first to do so. Look it up dear friend: Kiskeya is, along with Ayiti and Bohio, a Taino indian name for the island that is today shared by the Dominican Republic and Haiti. Again, Quisqueya is a name for the island of Hispaniola in the Taíno language meaning "mother of the earth", but the name has been adopted more by Dominicans as though the name only refers to themselves and them alone and neglect that it also belong to Haiti as well which is also one of the two countries on this island. HAITIANS always refer themselves as Quisqueya (Kiskeya for creole) yet always give recognition tht the name does not belong to them only. Hatians have always knowns to include DR when usuing the name as well as they give credit to the name having being the whole Island's name given by the Natives who first roamed the Island. Haiti holds the trend name in many diverse domain in the Country from many national food production trend names to businesses and institution such as: http://www.radiokiskeya.com http://www.nkfz.com http://www.hartford-hwp.com/archives/41/index-fo.html http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taíno http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Haiti http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_Dominican_Republic Edited on 5/26/2008 4:19 AM by HispanolanoYoSoy. Wilgeens Rosenberg "That Dominican-Haitian-Jewish Kid" HispanolanoYoSoy Wilgeens.Rosenberg@gmail.com

#36 - Posted 26 May 2008, 11:57 PM
CarlosFranco Location: United States Join date: December 2007 Member #: 40 Posts: 616	RE: Quisqueya La Bella, Not Quite Yet. Quote: ny4life previously said: Quisqueya la Bella is being refer to DR in this instance. Everything written here doesn't have to be about Haiti. There are other topics on this forum about Haiti. This one my dear friend talks about the Dominican Republic. After all, remember this is a Dominican websites, we Dominican topics are the most important. Like it or not. It's Dominicantoday.com for a reason. Do you actually think that these people care about that... They see the island as theirs and take our history and make it their own.... Look below, this is what our Quisqueya should look like... slowly but surely these haitians keep claiming our lands and your passitivity encourages them. They keep finding ways and arguments that claim how similar both haiti's culture and DR's are, these people are not Dominicans NY4Life. If we were so similar why them did we fought them 11 times to rid our lands from their dominion in the 19th century.... Ask yourself these questions.... Did duarte saw dominicans and haitians as one? Duarte fought a liberation struggle not a civil war... which would have been the case if DR and Haiti were the same. Edited on 5/27/2008 12:00 AM by CarlosFranco.

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