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| #91 - Posted 24 October 2009, 2:08 AM | |
 Location: United States, Brooklyn Join date: December 2007 Member #: 40 Posts: 2707  | RE: Germans in DR Quote: cibaeño75 previously said: Quote: guillermone previously said: Quote: cibaeño75 previously said: Quote: guillermone previously said: Let get back to the topic of this Forum. Germans in the DR. This what we should be doing and talking about-Stop paying attention to that moron. That is what he is looking for attention. Anyway, humorist Freddy Beras Goico happens to have German ancestry. Another interesting observation is that had there not been a change in the course of history, the DR would have been a German territory today and we would be possibly speaking German instead of Spanish. The DR was deeply in debt with that country at the turn of the century and was unable to pay. The only option to collect that debt was to invade the country and take over. But the US did not want or would not allow another European power to gain additional territories in this side of the hemisphere. That is why 1916 the US marines invaded and occupied the DR for 8 years. They took over the collection of duties to pay off Germany. Jose Zorilla the writer of a classic, most famous dramatic work "Don Juan Tenorio" passed through the DR and found inspiration, as if he anticipated the birth of a most famous international lover, Dominican playboy Porfirio Rubirosa. There were rumors of German ancestry on his father's side, but that was never substantiated. How is Veras Goico of German descent? From what I understand "Goico" is a hispanicized form of Goicovitch. Goicovitch is not a German last name. It's a slavic one. You are probably right. However, Freddy made that statement a couple of weeks ago in one of his shows and stated to have German ancestry. But you know Dominicans tend to, for simplicity sake, make blanket statements that are all inclusive. For example as a child when I went on vacation to the DR and stated that I lived in Boston, at the time this New England city was not known to be one of the many Dominican enclaves that we have today, but people would look puzzed for a minute and then say, "o si Nueva Yol or Nueva Yoi." As if Boston was one of the 5 burroughs or part of the tri-state area. It does not matter what it is called it is still Nueva Yol(i) to me. Since most people immediately know and can identify with Germany and easier for everyone to understand, that may be the reason why he said that. But if he starts to get technical and into what is a slavic background, he might confuse the hell out of everybody. But I doubt it. Freddy prides himself, though in a rudimentary manner, to be an educator. Nevertheless, regardless of his German side, his culture is predominately Spanish Ancestry. The German part is minute. However, his character traits tends to be less Dominican. He appears to be discipline, somewhat forthright and abrupt, just to name a few, very similar to that of Germans. I'm not going to question Goico's own take on his origins. But the Goicovitch origin for Goico (that's a Croatian surname if I'm not mistaken), that's something I read in Soto Jimenez's "Concho Primo". i have a hard time reading dominican book bro, specially Concho primo, is very hard to understand... |
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| #92 - Posted 20 February 2010, 12:16 PM | |
 Location: United States Join date: January 2010 Member #: 4401 Posts: 662 | RE: Germans in DR There's this White Dominican guy in Juan Luis Guerra's band named "quico Rezik" and his full name is Juan Enrique Rizek Bonnelly, those 2 last names sound Germanic to me. Chango ta' veni. |
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| #93 - Posted 20 February 2010, 12:24 PM | |
 Location: United States Join date: December 2009 Member #: 4151 Posts: 400 | RE: Germans in DR Quote: Bonaoense previously said: There's this White Dominican guy in Juan Luis Guerra's band named "quico Rezik" and his full name is Juan Enrique Rizek Bonnelly, those 2 last names sound Germanic to me. Bonnelly is Irish. Rezik is either Arabic or just Middle Eastern in origin. |
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| #94 - Posted 20 February 2010, 3:30 PM | |
Location: Dominican Republic Join date: December 2009 Member #: 4116 Posts: 1603 | RE: Germans in DR Quote: divinedominicana previously said: Just wanted to know i know is there still dominicans with german hertiage my mother is one for example and only have met afew i heard there is thosand of them if you are one who know one let me know!!!! Not sure how many pure Germans, but I can assure you there are many thousands of their 1/2 German kids running around. Censorship reflects society's (made up of a few ignorant forum posters) lack of confidence in itself. It is a hallmark of an authoritarian regime. Potter Stewart "The fool has said in his heart no-God" |
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| #95 - Posted 20 February 2010, 5:00 PM | |
 Location: Dominican Republic Join date: February 2008 Member #: 360 Posts: 2715 | RE: Germans in DR Quote: greenpeace2 previously said: Quote: divinedominicana previously said: Just wanted to know i know is there still dominicans with german hertiage my mother is one for example and only have met afew i heard there is thosand of them if you are one who know one let me know!!!! Not sure how many pure Germans, but I can assure you there are many thousands of their 1/2 German kids running around. True with all the European tourists running around if it were not for the large Haitian population Trujillo would see his dream realised...  Los enemigos de la Patria, por consiguiente nuestros, están todos muy acordes en estas ideas; destruir la nacionalidad aunque para ello sea preciso aniquilar a la Nación entera si vis pacem para bellum |
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| #96 - Posted 20 February 2010, 5:08 PM | |
Location: Dominican Republic Join date: December 2009 Member #: 4116 Posts: 1603 | RE: Germans in DR Quote: Pepe32 previously said: Quote: greenpeace2 previously said: Quote: divinedominicana previously said: Just wanted to know i know is there still dominicans with german hertiage my mother is one for example and only have met afew i heard there is thosand of them if you are one who know one let me know!!!! Not sure how many pure Germans, but I can assure you there are many thousands of their 1/2 German kids running around. True with all the European tourists running around if it were not for the large Haitian population Trujillo would see his dream realised... I guess he just wanted everyone to lighten up!  Censorship reflects society's (made up of a few ignorant forum posters) lack of confidence in itself. It is a hallmark of an authoritarian regime. Potter Stewart "The fool has said in his heart no-God" |
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| #97 - Posted 20 February 2010, 5:19 PM | |
Location: United States Join date: December 2009 Member #: 4151 Posts: 400 | RE: Germans in DR Quote: Pepe32 previously said: True with all the European tourists running around if it were not for the large Haitian population Trujillo would see his dream realised... Trujillo is rolling over in his grave. El Corte failed miserably. Edited on 2/20/2010 5:20 PM by mandouafrika. |
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| #98 - Posted 20 February 2010, 5:37 PM | |
 Location: Dominican Republic Join date: March 2008 Member #: 443 Posts: 1464 | RE: Germans in DR I don't mean to sound like a troll. but to hear that some Nazi members came to DR to flee from germany sounds a bit alerting. Did they flee because they regret of joining such party or did they fled because the US and allies were wining the war?. If they stood here, their racist ideology vanished through the years? I would like to know. |
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| #99 - Posted 20 February 2010, 5:42 PM | |
 Location: Dominican Republic, Santo Domingo Join date: December 2007 Member #: 38 Posts: 5613 | RE: Germans in DR Quote: Perez previously said: I don't mean to sound like a troll. but to hear that some Nazi members came to DR to flee from germany sounds a bit alerting. Did they flee because they regret of joining such party or did they fled because the US and allies were wining the war?. If they stood here, their racist ideology vanished through the years? I would like to know. Most of the germans that came to the DR were actually jews fleeing from the Nazi regime. The Nazi ones that you're referring to fled mostly to the southern cone (Uruguay, Argentina and Chile), places in which they would be employed by the ruling military regimes in the hunt for communists, rebels and other types of social outcasts. Edited on 2/20/2010 5:44 PM by Lautaro. "A man who strives after goodness in all his acts is sure to come to ruin, since there are so many men who are not good." Niccolo Macchiavelli - The Prince |
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| #100 - Posted 20 February 2010, 5:47 PM | |
Location: United States Join date: January 2010 Member #: 4401 Posts: 662 | RE: Germans in DR Quote: Lautaro previously said: Quote: Perez previously said: I don't mean to sound like a troll. but to hear that some Nazi members came to DR to flee from germany sounds a bit alerting. Did they flee because they regret of joining such party or did they fled because the US and allies were wining the war?. If they stood here, their racist ideology vanished through the years? I would like to know. Most of the germans that came to the DR were actually jews fleeing from the Nazi regime. The Nazi ones that you're referring to fled mostly to the southern cone (Uruguay, Argentina and Chile), places in which they would be employed by the ruling military regimes in the hunt for communists, rebels and other types of social outcasts. There are only a few hundred jews in the DR, but there are said to be tens of thousands of Germans, so I don't see how the majority of German Dominicans are Jews. Chango ta' veni. |
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