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| #81 - Posted 23 October 2009, 10:44 AM | |
 Location: Dominican Republic Join date: March 2009 Member #: 2266 Posts: 1533  | RE: Germans in DR Quote: cibaeño75 previously said: Quote: cyberdragon previously said: Quote: cibaeño75 previously said: Quote: guillermone previously said: Let get back to the topic of this Forum. Germans in the DR. This what we should be doing and talking about-Stop paying attention to that moron. That is what he is looking for attention. Anyway, humorist Freddy Beras Goico happens to have German ancestry. Another interesting observation is that had there not been a change in the course of history, the DR would have been a German territory today and we would be possibly speaking German instead of Spanish. The DR was deeply in debt with that country at the turn of the century and was unable to pay. The only option to collect that debt was to invade the country and take over. But the US did not want or would not allow another European power to gain additional territories in this side of the hemisphere. That is why 1916 the US marines invaded and occupied the DR for 8 years. They took over the collection of duties to pay off Germany. Jose Zorilla the writer of a classic, most famous dramatic work "Don Juan Tenorio" passed through the DR and found inspiration, as if he anticipated the birth of a most famous international lover, Dominican playboy Porfirio Rubirosa. There were rumors of German ancestry on his father's side, but that was never substantiated. How is Veras Goico of German descent? From what I understand "Goico" is a hispanicized form of Goicovitch. Goicovitch is not a German last name. It's a slavic one. The Bosch's are probably of German descent. I have read that Dr. Bosch was half PRican, maybe the Bosch's were German Puerto Rican. Bosch is a common surname among the Catalans, from which Bosch is descended. He's was not of German ancestry. Perhaps Bosch is the Germanized version of Bosco. |
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| #82 - Posted 23 October 2009, 10:57 AM | |
 Location: United States, El cuarto bate Join date: March 2009 Member #: 2300 Posts: 10224 | RE: Germans in DR Quote: divinedominicana previously said: Quote: AyDioMio previously said: Quote: divinedominicana previously said: really do you know that yale the ivy league as a dominican club which is a group for dominican students at yale and has over 100 student's in the club so get facts before you call dominicans stupid There are only 100 smart Dominicans?  goshThe troll is gone. In the future please do not add fuel to the fire. This guy was feeding off of you |
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| #83 - Posted 23 October 2009, 1:55 PM | |
Location: United States Join date: March 2008 Member #: 522 Posts: 5223 | RE: Germans in DR Quote: cibaeño75 previously said: Quote: guillermone previously said: Let get back to the topic of this Forum. Germans in the DR. This what we should be doing and talking about-Stop paying attention to that moron. That is what he is looking for attention. Anyway, humorist Freddy Beras Goico happens to have German ancestry. Another interesting observation is that had there not been a change in the course of history, the DR would have been a German territory today and we would be possibly speaking German instead of Spanish. The DR was deeply in debt with that country at the turn of the century and was unable to pay. The only option to collect that debt was to invade the country and take over. But the US did not want or would not allow another European power to gain additional territories in this side of the hemisphere. That is why 1916 the US marines invaded and occupied the DR for 8 years. They took over the collection of duties to pay off Germany. Jose Zorilla the writer of a classic, most famous dramatic work "Don Juan Tenorio" passed through the DR and found inspiration, as if he anticipated the birth of a most famous international lover, Dominican playboy Porfirio Rubirosa. There were rumors of German ancestry on his father's side, but that was never substantiated. How is Veras Goico of German descent? From what I understand "Goico" is a hispanicized form of Goicovitch. Goicovitch is not a German last name. It's a slavic one. You are probably right. However, Freddy made that statement a couple of weeks ago in one of his shows and stated to have German ancestry. But you know Dominicans tend to, for simplicity sake, make blanket statements that are all inclusive. For example as a child when I went on vacation to the DR and stated that I lived in Boston, at the time this New England city was not known to be one of the many Dominican enclaves that we have today, but people would look puzzed for a minute and then say, "o si Nueva Yol or Nueva Yoi." As if Boston was one of the 5 burroughs or part of the tri-state area. It does not matter what it is called it is still Nueva Yol(i) to me. Since most people immediately know and can identify with Germany and easier for everyone to understand, that may be the reason why he said that. But if he starts to get technical and into what is a slavic background, he might confuse the hell out of everybody. But I doubt it. Freddy prides himself, though in a rudimentary manner, to be an educator. Nevertheless, regardless of his German side, his culture is predominately Spanish Ancestry. The German part is minute. However, his character traits tends to be less Dominican. He appears to be discipline, somewhat forthright and abrupt, just to name a few, very similar to that of Germans. Edited on 10/23/2009 2:05 PM by guillermone. |
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| #84 - Posted 23 October 2009, 2:08 PM | |
 Location: United States, New York City Join date: February 2008 Member #: 411 Posts: 5683 | RE: Germans in DR Quote: cyberdragon previously said: Quote: cibaeño75 previously said: Quote: cyberdragon previously said: Quote: cibaeño75 previously said: Quote: guillermone previously said: Let get back to the topic of this Forum. Germans in the DR. This what we should be doing and talking about-Stop paying attention to that moron. That is what he is looking for attention. Anyway, humorist Freddy Beras Goico happens to have German ancestry. Another interesting observation is that had there not been a change in the course of history, the DR would have been a German territory today and we would be possibly speaking German instead of Spanish. The DR was deeply in debt with that country at the turn of the century and was unable to pay. The only option to collect that debt was to invade the country and take over. But the US did not want or would not allow another European power to gain additional territories in this side of the hemisphere. That is why 1916 the US marines invaded and occupied the DR for 8 years. They took over the collection of duties to pay off Germany. Jose Zorilla the writer of a classic, most famous dramatic work "Don Juan Tenorio" passed through the DR and found inspiration, as if he anticipated the birth of a most famous international lover, Dominican playboy Porfirio Rubirosa. There were rumors of German ancestry on his father's side, but that was never substantiated. How is Veras Goico of German descent? From what I understand "Goico" is a hispanicized form of Goicovitch. Goicovitch is not a German last name. It's a slavic one. The Bosch's are probably of German descent. I have read that Dr. Bosch was half PRican, maybe the Bosch's were German Puerto Rican. Bosch is a common surname among the Catalans, from which Bosch is descended. He's was not of German ancestry. Perhaps Bosch is the Germanized version of Bosco. Perhaps not. If you can read in Spanish read the last paragraph in the link provided: http://www.idg.org.do/capsulas/marzo2008/marzo20088.htm "If you're going through hell, keep going." - Winston Churchill |
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| #85 - Posted 23 October 2009, 2:11 PM | |
Location: United States, New York City Join date: February 2008 Member #: 411 Posts: 5683 | RE: Germans in DR Quote: guillermone previously said: Quote: cibaeño75 previously said: Quote: guillermone previously said: Let get back to the topic of this Forum. Germans in the DR. This what we should be doing and talking about-Stop paying attention to that moron. That is what he is looking for attention. Anyway, humorist Freddy Beras Goico happens to have German ancestry. Another interesting observation is that had there not been a change in the course of history, the DR would have been a German territory today and we would be possibly speaking German instead of Spanish. The DR was deeply in debt with that country at the turn of the century and was unable to pay. The only option to collect that debt was to invade the country and take over. But the US did not want or would not allow another European power to gain additional territories in this side of the hemisphere. That is why 1916 the US marines invaded and occupied the DR for 8 years. They took over the collection of duties to pay off Germany. Jose Zorilla the writer of a classic, most famous dramatic work "Don Juan Tenorio" passed through the DR and found inspiration, as if he anticipated the birth of a most famous international lover, Dominican playboy Porfirio Rubirosa. There were rumors of German ancestry on his father's side, but that was never substantiated. How is Veras Goico of German descent? From what I understand "Goico" is a hispanicized form of Goicovitch. Goicovitch is not a German last name. It's a slavic one. You are probably right. However, Freddy made that statement a couple of weeks ago in one of his shows and stated to have German ancestry. But you know Dominicans tend to, for simplicity sake, make blanket statements that are all inclusive. For example as a child when I went on vacation to the DR and stated that I lived in Boston, at the time this New England city was not known to be one of the many Dominican enclaves that we have today, but people would look puzzed for a minute and then say, "o si Nueva Yol or Nueva Yoi." As if Boston was one of the 5 burroughs or part of the tri-state area. It does not matter what it is called it is still Nueva Yol(i) to me. Since most people immediately know and can identify with Germany and easier for everyone to understand, that may be the reason why he said that. But if he starts to get technical and into what is a slavic background, he might confuse the hell out of everybody. But I doubt it. Freddy prides himself, though in a rudimentary manner, to be an educator. Nevertheless, regardless of his German side, his culture is predominately Spanish Ancestry. The German part is minute. However, his character traits tends to be less Dominican. He appears to be discipline, somewhat forthright and abrupt, just to name a few, very similar to that of Germans. I'm not going to question Goico's own take on his origins. But the Goicovitch origin for Goico (that's a Croatian surname if I'm not mistaken), that's something I read in Soto Jimenez's "Concho Primo". "If you're going through hell, keep going." - Winston Churchill |
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| #86 - Posted 23 October 2009, 3:15 PM | |
 Location: Dominican Republic Join date: February 2008 Member #: 360 Posts: 2715 | RE: Germans in DR Actually Cibaeño Goico is from Euskera or Basque as in Goicochea (Goicotxea) See: http://www.geocities.com/asocoesgen/apevascos.pdf Though we did not have much immigration from vascongadas we do have some and among the names listed are some common "Dominican" names. Los enemigos de la Patria, por consiguiente nuestros, están todos muy acordes en estas ideas; destruir la nacionalidad aunque para ello sea preciso aniquilar a la Nación entera si vis pacem para bellum |
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| #87 - Posted 23 October 2009, 4:09 PM | |
 Location: United States, Rochester, NY Join date: August 2009 Member #: 3399 Posts: 25 | RE: Germans in DR Quote: Lautaro previously said: Quote: AyDioMio previously said: Quote: xwill7 previously said: Quote: AyDioMio previously said: Blacks in the DR I hear there are 4 million blacks in the DR along with 4.5 million who are of partial black ancestry, why don't we discuss this? Where do you get your numbers? Have you been to el cibao? "Light Skinned Mulatto" Cibao Dominicans:  Kinito Mendez and Johnny Ventura are southeners, you incurable racially obsessed imbecile!!! (Johnny from the capital and Kinito from Azua, respectively). . Edited on 10/23/2009 4:16 PM by gregorioeltoro. |
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| #88 - Posted 23 October 2009, 4:15 PM | |
Location: United States, Rochester, NY Join date: August 2009 Member #: 3399 Posts: 25 | RE: Germans in DR Quote: Lautaro previously said: Quote: AyDioMio previously said: Quote: xwill7 previously said: Quote: AyDioMio previously said: Blacks in the DR I hear there are 4 million blacks in the DR along with 4.5 million who are of partial black ancestry, why don't we discuss this? Where do you get your numbers? Have you been to el cibao? "Light Skinned Mulatto" Cibao Dominicans: Kinito Mendez and Johnny Ventura are southeners, you incurable racially obsessed imbecile!!! (Johnny from the capital and Kinito from Azua, respectively). I liked your response. It made me laugh at the idiocy attached to race.  Edited on 10/23/2009 4:17 PM by gregorioeltoro. |
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| #89 - Posted 23 October 2009, 4:17 PM | |
Location: United States, New York City Join date: February 2008 Member #: 411 Posts: 5683 | RE: Germans in DR Quote: Pepe32 previously said: Actually Cibaeño Goico is from Euskera or Basque as in Goicochea (Goicotxea) See: http://www.geocities.com/asocoesgen/apevascos.pdf Though we did not have much immigration from vascongadas we do have some and among the names listed are some common "Dominican" names. Take it up with Soto Jimenez because that's where I got my info from...his "Concho Primo" "If you're going through hell, keep going." - Winston Churchill |
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| #90 - Posted 23 October 2009, 4:27 PM | |
Location: Dominican Republic Join date: February 2008 Member #: 360 Posts: 2715 |  RE: Germans in DRNo need to get upset with me ,unless Soto Jimenez is infallible... BTW not to many Slavs in DR Los enemigos de la Patria, por consiguiente nuestros, están todos muy acordes en estas ideas; destruir la nacionalidad aunque para ello sea preciso aniquilar a la Nación entera si vis pacem para bellum |
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