Yes this why they should stop creating an environment that just benefits the rich.

Do you think before you write? Or do you just like to engage in psycho babble?

You are a contradiction to yourself and intelligent discourse.


I may have been wrong, your probably the other idiot GC in disguise.

Consuello:

If you don't know the history between this 2 countries i think you should read. thousands of dominican dead bodies were dump in the Masacre river by haitians when their economy was better. which by the way is why they called that. i personally don't hate or promote hate for haitians. is the same way USA southern states hate mexicans too because of the history of it. also the same way blacks and whites still fight in America. we cannot focus on the past but we must understand it before we can move forward. every country on this planet that share borders with other have their differences if you think there isn't one please informe of it. racism exist in every country one way or the other. i have been to haiti about 6 times and have lived in over 5 states in USA. If you don't know the history please read it before calling somebody a hater from 5000 miles away.

Ladronaso, Said

Yes this why they should stop creating an environment that just benefits the rich.

Do you think before you write? Or do you just like to engage in psycho babble?

You are a contradiction to yourself and intelligent discourse.


I may have been wrong, your probably the other idiot GC in disguise.



Arkatype And everyone that perhaps read your past posting's know that your perfect model of 'progression' is socialism, which has been proven to be an utter failure. And i dont contradict myself, you just can't put things in perspective when your brain is in a cloud of sheer ignorance.

Wow,

Way to go pal on being wrong about this part of history ( Ha hah lol)! It was called "La Riviere Du Masscre" which is french for Massacre River a name it carried then and today because the atrocity was committed onto the Haitian people of the actual massacre that Trujillo ordered to his soldiers at the border when he had up to 30,000 Haitians murdered, killed because he wanted to whiten the Dominican race. Yeah, way to reverse the course of history on that one buddy (lol)!

However you are right about this though. We cannot focus on the past, but indeed we must understand most of the pasts were the deed of untempered irrational past ancestors which we are only inheriting their hatred, pain and resentment which are preventing us from moving on forward as human beings. Indeed, every Nations which share borders have or have had differences and we can agree that racism does exist almost in every corner of the globe. Perhaps you might have misinterpreted and even misunderstood the language or mixed my tone with that of some other radical extremist racist on here, but I did not call anyone a hater. Yes, I am Consuello as well as many other names I had on here. Look, I do not want to tarnish this post with an issue of race, but people insisting on bringing it up with their lack for capacity do discuss any issues without it by the insensitive remarks they make. In fact I love watching the pictures of the progresses that are being made in DR, but does not mean people both Haitians or Dominicans may not have criticisms about some or most aspects of the conduct of those developments, you know.

I have lived and went to school both in Haiti and DR growing up and still go to the Island on vacation and volunteer missionary work there almost every year... I own property on both side beside the fact that my mother and her family are Dominicans, so I know the history pretty well dear friend. If you want I can give you actual links to reference on the matter of "The River Massacre" that is not wikipedia or biased by neither Dominicans or Haitians.

P.S: Try reading this article called "THE RIVER MASSACRE: The Real & Imagined Borders of Hispaniola." written by this documentary journalist writer named Michele Wucker. Simple because of the known history between the two Nations, it is best to read books,document or materials that are of impartial people and not only of Haitians or Dominicans alone. For as they both can be quite emotionally subjective to anything pertaining to the Island in whole.

Actually, Afro, La Riviere Du Massacre was named such because of the terrible inroads that the spanish cinquentenas did against the french buccaneer settlements on the 1600's, so that conflict is even more "atrás" than what you're alluding to. For God's sake, not all the massacres of the island were carried out by Trujillo, and, if you're honest with yourself, you'll have to admit that the haitian generals of the independence (with the sole exceptions of Alexandre Petion and Yayou Ferrou), were not exactly saints to begin with, so the massacres that bello is mentioning are not fabled things, either.

i agree everytime there is a positive development about the D.R there is always the same sour apples trying to bring negative insight or unrelated news that have nothing to do with the topic at hand

99% of the time the Culprits wants to somehow link every good news in D.R to the never-ending Haitian predicament . True big amounts of capital for this building boom probably comes from illegal drugs but not all of it. there is not reason to link foreign investment in infrastructure to other social issues that affect our society. if in any case there is a problem with foreign money been invested in D.R is up to Dominicans to solve it. Any other outsider with an opinion please take your freedom of speech somewhere else

Yes,

Indeed I have missed to mention that part that took place back in the 1600. You are absolutelly right, Laut. I did not go that far back, but you are right on the money. Nevertheless, "The River Massacre" came to be known in existence based still on atrocities of the Spaniards.

You know what, this is my point exactly and you are also right and correct that not all the massacres of the Island were carried out by Trujillo alone which is why I said: "We cannot focus on the past, but indeed we must understand most of the pasts were the deed of untempered irrational past ancestors which we are only inheriting their hatred, pain and resentment which are preventing us from moving on forward as human beings." Notice I did not specify or directed that comment or remark to any one nation's of Dominican or Haitian ancestors because in fact as you stated...

They were not Saints to begin with and I did not go much into disagreement with Bello since I know what he has mentioned are also not fables either.

Come on now Laut, you saw that (lol)!

I have question: Are you going back to the frontlines on the Middle East any time soon?

Hey Trinitario,

I agree with almost everything you may have mentioned above to some extent but except for the very last part which expressed a slight tone of prejudices (lol). http://www2.dominicantoday.com/dr/forum/living-in-the-dr/general-info/50/Boom-in-Santo-Domingo/13 Go check or read this response I wrote so I could see if you can understand, comprehend or grasp where I am coming from.

I do not think most people, even those that are actual Dominicans or not who criticize certain aspects of the Construction boom are "Sour Apples or bad Culprits" or that they are linking anything to social issues. Fact is, many of the social issues in questions that are being brought up are real and they are only voicing out that if DR can have all this means of income, then better expectations are expected of the government to provide adequate standard of living for many Dominican citizens. Many people are simply pointing out their view on a observatory stand point of trying to inquire of all possible negative aspects that they wish to know if many others are aware of in terms of safety, spending and proper allocation of the money being profited off those establishments. You feel me on that? I mean, they are only expressing their views on the matter and also making their stance on various areas of the issues.

I mean, can you imagine what this site would have been like if there were no actual disagreements, or heated debates and different point of views? Unless or if Cyber Utopia is what you are aiming for... I am sorry to disappoint you, but you have actually entered the place that holds in true meaning of the words "The No Spin Zone" which actually do nothing but spinning the zone as interaction (ha hah lol ).

Anyhow, welcome abroad buddy!!!

Gee, I hope not soon (lol). I told you I sustained a back injury from my last tour in Iraq, remember? However, I am still in the service and almost about to graduate my from Officer school, thus there is no telling when I might have to go unless if my medical status says otherwise to the Military Medical Board. I was just recently in Israel and France visiting family, and a couple of months ago, I went to Campo, DR because my mother had to go vote there for the DR presidential election. Her candidate VARGAS did not win (lol)!