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#11 - Posted 10 June 2008, 2:58 PM
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What is "Projection"? Sorry I have no clue..Ok, guys it's back to normal again the radicals have been let out of the homes and the meds have weared off....Now all we need as Arca & Carlos to come with vengeance it will be all out war.

NY4life, oh can you put "some of you haitians" when writing that all come here. It sounds a tad derogatory "you haitians". I am offended by that..Shall we go to war..Ok, kidding but on a serious note I understand your position and see your point but why aren't you equally denouncing the garbage from the foolish dominicans(not all) that spew the same sh&%. Just because it's a dominican website doesn't mean that if a few silly dominicans say things it should be permissable. I understand you though, you are trying to get to your roots and do the dominican thing and everytime this guy comes in a turn your threads to something it not..jjejejej..hey, I haven't messed up your thread my friend and I'm Haitian.. Glad that your back. I know your tired of this rant but so am I..ok, next round...and in this corner..
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#12 - Posted 10 June 2008, 2:59 PM
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"Look up PROJECTION Hispanolano, because you seriously suffer from it."

LOLOL..I just finished telling him the same thing in another post...can't make this stuff up.


Yeah I just saw that and had to laugh as well. As you mentioned Hispanolano initially comes off as an informed guy, even if a bit too wordy. But it doesn't take long to see his personal identity crusade overrides any intent he may have to just discuss and share ideas.
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#13 - Posted 10 June 2008, 3:02 PM
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"What is "Projection"? "

Projection is attributing your own repressed thoughts to someone else.
#14 - Posted 10 June 2008, 3:05 PM
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Cibaeno,

thank you..I got it now..Ok, let the games begin..it's going to get dirty in here. Can we all give each other a hug..hispano, you came back with a vengeance man..jajaj..ok let me leave you alone b4 you post me a book..I read the thread about your dominican and haitian family on the dinner table..I though of plantanos and salami came to mind at the dinner table..jajajjajaajj...Ok, im sorry man...i couldn't resist..dont lash it me bro..i love you..remember that..calm down man..please, can you respond to me last post. You were doing good... I actually watcehd one of your videos for the first time..i like that song..thing twice..who sings that again..mesi anpil wi..
Edited on 6/10/2008 3:08 PM by JabaoHaitian.
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What is "Projection"? Sorry I have no clue..Ok, guys it's back to normal again the radicals have been let out of the homes and the meds have weared off....Now all we need as Arca & Carlos to come with vengeance it will be all out war.



Jabao projection is when there is something in your identity or beliefs that you have not resolved satisfactorily...thus since you are failing to integrate into your conscious, awake personality it finds a way, ANY way, of working its way to the surface. You either come to obsessively hate this thing, or you accuse others of it to exaplain the fact you perceive it everywhere. The cliche example is a politician who is a closet homosexual, but in his political life works to oppress gay people. This identity/belief he has repressed finds a way to express itself with a vengeance. We all do this to some extent; whenever you catch yourself thinking "I hate people who ____!!" or "why are you so ___?!?" stop and ask yourself what your mind is really doing.
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#16 - Posted 10 June 2008, 3:10 PM
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JabaoHaitian previously said:

What is "Projection"? Sorry I have no clue..Ok, guys it's back to normal again the radicals have been let out of the homes and the meds have weared off....Now all we need as Arca & Carlos to come with vengeance it will be all out war.



Jabao projection is when there is something in your identity or beliefs that you have not resolved satisfactorily...thus since you are failing to integrate into your conscious, awake personality it finds a way, ANY way, of working its way to the surface. You either come to obsessively hate this thing, or you accuse others of it to exaplain the fact you perceive it everywhere. The cliche example is a politician who is a closet homosexual, but in his political life works to oppress gay people. This identity/belief he has repressed finds a way to express itself with a vengeance. We all do this to some extent; whenever you catch yourself thinking "I hate people who ____!!" or "why are you so ___?!?" stop and ask yourself what your mind is really doing.



Very interesting..I have to learn more about this..basically it's the old saying "b4 pointing your index finger look at the other fingers pointing back at you"...very interesting...this is getting heated in here..
#17 - Posted 10 June 2008, 4:47 PM
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What are you talking about? Who told you I am a racist? As you can see I am not a caucasian either, so stop the paranoia! I did not even watch the video and for sure I will not watch it since you are so offensive.

I just noticed that about 3 topics on Haiti were on top. It is a little bit weird I think,
since as a Dominican that lives abroad, I come to this website to find info. about the DR.

Obviously for news update reasons it is ok for some article to speak of Haiti, but I have noticed that lately many many Haitians post in here, also several quite negative comments and I think it is inappropriate for you guys to come and insult us for being racists, oppressors and everything else on a website that is mainly for Dominicans.

What is up with that? Please work on your own frustrations before pointing fingers. That is one thing that I hate, that you try to make Dominicans look like bad people, and DOminicans are only trying to make their country work. You should do the same and worry less about DOminicans. Try to find a positive and productive way of channelling your energy.


Well said Buenoha


The same Answer goes out to you too. You, yourself have been so focused on putting down Haitians along with other posters on here like Arcatype, CarlosFranco that you all have made it your missions to track and go on every possible Haitian posts on here just so you all can project your racist views. Like Buenoha have said and believe it or not I kind of agreed with him among other stuff he said is that... we have got to find better constructive and productive way to channelling our energy and anger we have for each or one another.

However no, people like you , Arcatype and Franco are most focus on divisiveness than you do on anything on here. Finding peaceful solutions is not what you and the others are about. You guys go to sleep at night thinking of ways yo will wake up the next day to come and bash Haitians on here and acting like other Haitians will not come on here to see it.. The very reasons why yo post your negativism is because you know Haitian will read them and may have to rebuked the silliness of what you have to say on your posts. So before you go around stating "This is a Dominican site this and that" you all need to check yourselves and not post posts that Haitian will find to be downgrading as Freedom of speech and expression does not go only one way or the Dominican way.

It goes both ways and any way for all people in general and since the World Wide Web is not limited to the realm of DR and Dominicans alone, it belongs to everybody that is why it has the word 'WORLD in it and not DOMINICAN REPUBLIC WIDE WEB thus you do not get to tell people which sites the chose to browse or not.



You take things out of context. When Buenoha is asking why are Haitian issues the most important issues on a Dominican website, it seems very mysterious. Everytime you are the minority in a majority place you are not going to be accepted well when you keep bashing the majority. Dominicans are not bad people but through messages posted on here by Haitians, one would think the complete opposite. Yes, we have SOME radicals as does HAITI but in the end the MAJORITY of Dominicans are not like that and that's the message we DOMINICANS want to send. All of this defaming Dominicans/DR, can be done to Haiti/Haitians as well. However, there is no need to stoop that low b/c that will not accomplish anything but bring in more animosity. Let's find ways to make it better rather than worse.


NY4LIFE,

You are absolutely right on this one NY4LIFE. However you have to ask yourself the very same question reversibly about the mysterious plausible reason why that is that there seem to be more Haitian Issues being discussed on a Majority Dominican site? Yeah, ask yourself why that is?

It is not like Haitians simply are the ones coming on here and post the main Articles that are on the from page of this forum and which with bias they always seem to attach a level of connotation of implied direct negativism of Haiti in it as they never place those Article about Haiti under a column other than the Poverty column. Well, I would say it the other way around unlike how you have put it. If I may interject respectfully to say that there are those many Dominicans that are not at all racist, but a majority more so than have the one that are not racist have indeed deep rooted resentments toward Haitian. Whereas in Haiti it has become more of a retaliatory racism than it is a deeply breaded, not to say Haitians are not or may be just as racist toward Dominicans , however in Haiti is is rather the impoverish situation and the treatment they mass poor receive that has caused them to make the racial claims and as I said repeatedly in Haiti it is more Classicism than it is Racial Racism.

As indeed all this defaming Haitians can be done to DR as well and you are right, we this generation have no need or gain to stoop that low because that will not accomplish anything but bring more animosity. Perhaps I may have taken it slightly out of context what Buenoha might have said... but time will tell if indeed that was true and how you have seen and taken it to be so innocent.

PS: Oh I am all for that last statement my brother, indeed let us already, let us find ways to make it better rather than worse!!!
Edited on 6/10/2008 4:49 PM by HispanolanoYoSoy.
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What is "Projection"? Sorry I have no clue..Ok, guys it's back to normal again the radicals have been let out of the homes and the meds have weared off....Now all we need as Arca & Carlos to come with vengeance it will be all out war.

NY4life, oh can you put "some of you haitians" when writing that all come here. It sounds a tad derogatory "you haitians". I am offended by that..Shall we go to war..Ok, kidding but on a serious note I understand your position and see your point but why aren't you equally denouncing the garbage from the foolish dominicans(not all) that spew the same sh&%. Just because it's a dominican website doesn't mean that if a few silly dominicans say things it should be permissable. I understand you though, you are trying to get to your roots and do the dominican thing and everytime this guy comes in a turn your threads to something it not..jjejejej..hey, I haven't messed up your thread my friend and I'm Haitian.. Glad that your back. I know your tired of this rant but so am I..ok, next round...and in this corner..


You know what projection means, why are you playing... (lol)? That is in the same context I have taken it when somebody say "Those Haitians, you Haitians" and if it is said the other way around there is this backlash of attacks from the other party especially with the known tensions that exist between the two nations the way certain words are said and given the sense of the tone of the way it is said can trigger attentions and response from either sides to be derogatory and I am glad you were able to see it like that, just how I have whether or not this is a Dominican site and more of the reason that there is no naivete of the existing tension should be more so the reason why both Haitians and Dominicans should chose their wording carefully; you dig?


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"Look up PROJECTION Hispanolano, because you seriously suffer from it."

LOLOL..I just finished telling him the same thing in another post...can't make this stuff up.


Yeah I just saw that and had to laugh as well. As you mentioned Hispanolano initially comes off as an informed guy, even if a bit too wordy. But it doesn't take long to see his personal identity crusade overrides any intent he may have to just discuss and share ideas.


Given the meaning of what projection is, anybody who often voice out a view, an opinion or statement can easily project their own bias, prejudice and indeed identity in those expressed sentiments, attitudes and ideas and more and their reply... like for example, Arcatype, CarlosFranco and even me if you all shall demonized me by giving this delirium reputation which I said I am wiling to sacrifice if this shall bring peace to both Haitians and Dominicans, thus my stance is clear and always has been. Anything I could do to get you all shift that anger toward something else or in this case, someone else "Me" (lol) !!!
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Cibaeno,

thank you..I got it now..Ok, let the games begin..it's going to get dirty in here. Can we all give each other a hug..hispano, you came back with a vengeance man..jajaj..ok let me leave you alone b4 you post me a book..I read the thread about your dominican and haitian family on the dinner table..I though of plantanos and salami came to mind at the dinner table..jajajjajaajj...Ok, im sorry man...i couldn't resist..dont lash it me bro..i love you..remember that..calm down man..please, can you respond to me last post. You were doing good... I actually watcehd one of your videos for the first time..i like that song..thing twice..who sings that again..mesi anpil wi..


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