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#61 - Posted 13 June 2008, 2:47 PM
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This goes out to all people of colors who have yet chosen to get off the Denial Wagon and who have not yet come together to realize the differences we are babbling about are simply made-up, inherited division given to us by our former slave owners and masters and we as stupid as we are, we are feeding exactly what they expect of us to continue on doing which is to actually believe that we are different.


YOU are the one who keeps bringing the division up more than anybody else on this board.

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we are grown ass men who tend to sit on our butts tearing each other apart by placing blames and do all kind of Verbal Masturbations and circular motion of words


Again, Neg you are one who often behaves this way on this forum.

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Sure, make me the villain I am willing to incur this as my sacrifice to the Island... It makes me feel good that for once we could take the focus off each other as Dominicans and Haitians and turn it all on me. I am willing to take away all your hatreds, hate me instead I do not mind, but try to get along yourselves.


Well now I see why you were being called Jesus Well you have at least accomplished this, because Dominicans, Haitians, leftists and rightists, we're all asking you to CHILL OUT. We didn't ask for a messiah!

Here is one thing I hope you have considered in your crusade Neg, and I say this as a man fully aware, conscious, and embracing of African roots in my family. When a person of color decides to make their life's crusade to spread black consciousness, that can be good and well. But when race consciousness completely overrides him; when race dictates everything he sees in music, culture, philosophy, education, history, politics, EVERYTHING he converses about or thinks about...do you know what he has done then? He has sentenced himself to the plantation. He is no better than what you call a house ni**er; perhaps worse because he would rather burn the entire house down than have anything to do with the white sons of the old masters, even though he likely shares their heritage in his blood and language as fully as they do.

Just something I hope you think about because you come across on this forum to be someone completely dominated and identified with race consciousness. I would hope that isn't how you are off the internet





Manahattinite, I couldn't agree with you more. I wish this post of yours can be made as a sticky. Jesus, mission as the savior of haitian/dominican race relation is beyond me. Everything about you Jesus has to do with race race..and you bash your own supposedly "brother" if he doesn't agree with your ideas. I,too, think you should apologise to Hay as he is just telling you the truth. Dominicans & Haitians with an equilibrium on this site see you know different than Arca & Carlos. Sorry but you aren't not different from them although you feel you are doing something "righteous". Actually you are further perpetuating division among the negros(of all hue) while in your mind you assume your bringing unity. I say a doble cara for you too..hypocrisy at its best..Do as I say not as I do..

Frankly you fucus on solving this race relationship is destroying you internally since you know your mission isn't working the way you want it too..You are want we call stubborn and lash out even hurting your own because of your failure to accomplish your goals. Take heed to Manahattinites post..he is head on and is the truth..im shaking my head like "true". I know how to deal with you cause Im a little tiguere from Ayiti..lol so you know not to try that sh8 with me. Well, Hay doesn't deserve that and others on this forum doesnt either. Like you feel like you are so so smart and civilising these creatures but many on here are like, "Are you kidding me?"...Take heed "Field nigger"..lol.. I prefer the nice cozy indoors..lol...dehors...lollllllllllll.. Oh my humour..


NY4life, are you kidding me with your last post. Every society has some form of racism do to many factors especially colonisation. What gets me upset that dominicans are portrayed as the only racist on the island and us haitians are some righteous group that don't practice racism..Hey Im just calling a spade a spade...it's the truth and I will uphold the truth even if my nationals don't agree for the sake of being Politically Correct..Shame on all of us..but talking about and going thru the phase of finally laughing at it will make it decrease..Sorry but racism will always exist..Another thing I didn't mention is that dominicans are discriminative towards haitians because the majority that migrate their for work are poor. So it goes beyond race. I never have a problem because of my nationality when I have to show my passport..just a double take..diablo, eres haitiano? The more reserved will just stare and think without saying out loud.. While I give them that like..with saying anything "Si soy haitiano"...jajajajjajaj..Ok now where we..Hey Ti Jesus, can you stop talking about race..you're a racist yourself..you what everyone that doesn't agree with you..white mulatto black...lollll



Sure, sure, sure...

I am glad more of you's are reaching grounds and have turned the focus onto something else. It is still surprising that finally you are all working together toward a common goal which is to hate me and I do not mind one bit.

I accept the sacrifice to be thrown under the bus as long as it serves the intended purpose I have always had in mind. Let us see for how long will this collaboration last. I sure hope it will remains so and be quite fruitful. So let us catalog this historical Chapter on DominicanToday as a memories event to never forget. Who would have thought of this day where both Haitians & Dominicans would actually have a common goal working hand in hand with such combined participations. I am rejoicing right about now as this brings tears to one's eyes. Thus I say, sure, sure, sure... Yes We Can! The new founding devotion of you all is inspiring and with that perhaps now Haiti & Dr will not go wrong I hope... Indeed 'tis oh a day, what so memorable!!!

So it is possible to rid of those made up differences and actually accomplish better greatness for this beautiful Island named Hispaniola. Therefore, I cannot be mad. In fact, I am not mad at all you guys coming at me like that. I welcome it as success toward real steps to reconciliation. Like I said, this is indeed good news and music to my ears .

P.S: "The future is not a gift; it is an achievement. Every generation helps make its own future. This is the essential challenge of the present." Robert F. Kennedy.




Please someone call a doctor.... jesus.... you have to turn everything into hate and racism...
man get over it...
Edited on 6/13/2008 2:48 PM by MrDom.
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#62 - Posted 13 June 2008, 2:59 PM
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Jesus,

Finally your long hard work is coming to fruition. It took you Negmawon,Hispaniolasoy, to bring these racist dominicans and evil haitians together. You have accomplished what the NGO's nor the Black Caucus couldn't do. You have brought peace amongst the uncivilised people that you've actually sacrifice yourself ..You are a Martyr..A monument of you will be build in your name on the border..El jefe..ton ton macoute ..jajjajaja.. Dominicans and Haitians will live in harmony and have you Negmawon to thank them for..May you rest in peace..I will tip my Barbancourt out in your memory..jjajajajjaajja..Great job


Hey,

Whether in good or bad humor, I accept the homage (lol ). "Why thank you" Austin Powers. "I would like to think the Academy... wow these things are heavy" The Love Guru.

Hey, why did Negmawon went Mawon? Why, lol... Well, I guess to live and fight another day. Who knows perhaps NegMawon was indeed Bookman or Makandal. Maybe he lived to have fought Bois Caiman to give us the Haiti & DR we have today. A monument, oh no, you guys should not have... You guys are way too humble.

No, no come on, stop that you guys... okay I accept (lol )!!!!

P.S: "The future is not a gift; it is an achievement. Every generation helps make its own future. This is the essential challenge of the present." Robert F. Kennedy.

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#63 - Posted 13 June 2008, 3:01 PM
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"You are a Martyr..A monument of you will be build in your name on the border"

LOLOLOLOL...we came up with that one indenpendently of each other,,,great minds do think alike!..lolol...can't make this stuff up..
#64 - Posted 13 June 2008, 3:04 PM
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Manhattanite previously said:

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NègMawon previously said:

This goes out to all people of colors who have yet chosen to get off the Denial Wagon and who have not yet come together to realize the differences we are babbling about are simply made-up, inherited division given to us by our former slave owners and masters and we as stupid as we are, we are feeding exactly what they expect of us to continue on doing which is to actually believe that we are different.


YOU are the one who keeps bringing the division up more than anybody else on this board.

Quote:

we are grown ass men who tend to sit on our butts tearing each other apart by placing blames and do all kind of Verbal Masturbations and circular motion of words


Again, Neg you are one who often behaves this way on this forum.

Quote:






Sure, make me the villain I am willing to incur this as my sacrifice to the Island... It makes me feel good that for once we could take the focus off each other as Dominicans and Haitians and turn it all on me. I am willing to take away all your hatreds, hate me instead I do not mind, but try to get along yourselves.


Well now I see why you were being called Jesus Well you have at least accomplished this, because Dominicans, Haitians, leftists and rightists, we're all asking you to CHILL OUT. We didn't ask for a messiah!

Here is one thing I hope you have considered in your crusade Neg, and I say this as a man fully aware, conscious, and embracing of African roots in my family. When a person of color decides to make their life's crusade to spread black consciousness, that can be good and well. But when race consciousness completely overrides him; when race dictates everything he sees in music, culture, philosophy, education, history, politics, EVERYTHING he converses about or thinks about...do you know what he has done then? He has sentenced himself to the plantation. He is no better than what you call a house ni**er; perhaps worse because he would rather burn the entire house down than have anything to do with the white sons of the old masters, even though he likely shares their heritage in his blood and language as fully as they do.

Just something I hope you think about because you come across on this forum to be someone completely dominated and identified with race consciousness. I would hope that isn't how you are off the internet





Manahattinite, I couldn't agree with you more. I wish this post of yours can be made as a sticky. Jesus, mission as the savior of haitian/dominican race relation is beyond me. Everything about you Jesus has to do with race race..and you bash your own supposedly "brother" if he doesn't agree with your ideas. I,too, think you should apologise to Hay as he is just telling you the truth. Dominicans & Haitians with an equilibrium on this site see you know different than Arca & Carlos. Sorry but you aren't not different from them although you feel you are doing something "righteous". Actually you are further perpetuating division among the negros(of all hue) while in your mind you assume your bringing unity. I say a doble cara for you too..hypocrisy at its best..Do as I say not as I do..

Frankly you fucus on solving this race relationship is destroying you internally since you know your mission isn't working the way you want it too..You are want we call stubborn and lash out even hurting your own because of your failure to accomplish your goals. Take heed to Manahattinites post..he is head on and is the truth..im shaking my head like "true". I know how to deal with you cause Im a little tiguere from Ayiti..lol so you know not to try that sh8 with me. Well, Hay doesn't deserve that and others on this forum doesnt either. Like you feel like you are so so smart and civilising these creatures but many on here are like, "Are you kidding me?"...Take heed "Field nigger"..lol.. I prefer the nice cozy indoors..lol...dehors...lollllllllllll.. Oh my humour..


NY4life, are you kidding me with your last post. Every society has some form of racism do to many factors especially colonisation. What gets me upset that dominicans are portrayed as the only racist on the island and us haitians are some righteous group that don't practice racism..Hey Im just calling a spade a spade...it's the truth and I will uphold the truth even if my nationals don't agree for the sake of being Politically Correct..Shame on all of us..but talking about and going thru the phase of finally laughing at it will make it decrease..Sorry but racism will always exist..Another thing I didn't mention is that dominicans are discriminative towards haitians because the majority that migrate their for work are poor. So it goes beyond race. I never have a problem because of my nationality when I have to show my passport..just a double take..diablo, eres haitiano? The more reserved will just stare and think without saying out loud.. While I give them that like..with saying anything "Si soy haitiano"...jajajajjajaj..Ok now where we..Hey Ti Jesus, can you stop talking about race..you're a racist yourself..you what everyone that doesn't agree with you..white mulatto black...lollll



Sure, sure, sure...

I am glad more of you's are reaching grounds and have turned the focus onto something else. It is still surprising that finally you are all working together toward a common goal which is to hate me and I do not mind one bit.

I accept the sacrifice to be thrown under the bus as long as it serves the intended purpose I have always had in mind. Let us see for how long will this collaboration last. I sure hope it will remains so and be quite fruitful. So let us catalog this historical Chapter on DominicanToday as a memories event to never forget. Who would have thought of this day where both Haitians & Dominicans would actually have a common goal working hand in hand with such combined participations. I am rejoicing right about now as this brings tears to one's eyes. Thus I say, sure, sure, sure... Yes We Can! The new founding devotion of you all is inspiring and with that perhaps now Haiti & Dr will not go wrong I hope... Indeed 'tis oh a day, what so memorable!!!

So it is possible to rid of those made up differences and actually accomplish better greatness for this beautiful Island named Hispaniola. Therefore, I cannot be mad. In fact, I am not mad at all you guys coming at me like that. I welcome it as success toward real steps to reconciliation. Like I said, this is indeed good news and music to my ears .

P.S: "The future is not a gift; it is an achievement. Every generation helps make its own future. This is the essential challenge of the present." Robert F. Kennedy.




Please someone call a doctor.... jesus.... you have to turn everything into hate and racism...
man get over it...


What I do know for sure is that, "Our Playing Small Does Not Help The World" Well why not, is it not what we seem to always ranting , bickering, blaming, judging, talking and cutting each other's throats about?

Like race and racism was not all it has ever been about on here... the hatred, the resentments, the racism and on and on and on... Why not, let us not stop now, why stop now... Well I will be damned, could this possibly be the day Haitians and Dominicans reunite as one Hispaniolan people? Who would have thunk it eh... Wow, why the sudden change of heart? Do not stop there, do not stop now. Come on, let us keep cycle of hatred and Human Rights violations going! Was not being the "Supremacy Race" and "Holier & Better Thou" as well as "Whom Is Most Entitled To The Island" the mantra we were going for? Haitians are better this, Dominicans are better that --Do not stop the mood now on my account. Was it not what we both have been so indecisive about? Had and If we have been so much united and not divided and promoting peace then why the posts about peace are left with none of your cordial participations? Yes, I am the hypocrite here in that case surely. Why not?

However, if indeed this change of heart is genuine and hating me now is what can bring us to that; I say by all means, let is all out... just hate me all that you can... and do not hate me soft, hate me hard. Then call a doctor (lo)!

P.S: "The future is not a gift; it is an achievement. Every generation helps make its own future. This is the essential challenge of the present." Robert F. Kennedy.

Edited on 6/13/2008 3:17 PM by NègMawon.
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#65 - Posted 13 June 2008, 3:13 PM
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Cibaeno,

I agree with you..LOL....that was a given..what dominican or haitian that doesn't want a monument built after them....lollololloll...

Ok, I'm laughing too hard..Negmawon..you still haven't apoligise..damn these field niggers are hard to break in..want some shade and a cup of lemonade..lol..Ok, that's it you are hilarious...

OK back to serious mood. Cibaeno..thanx for the laugh..great post..
#66 - Posted 13 June 2008, 3:28 PM
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Why in the world would I accept an apology from a guy as hateful and stubborn as him? Besides a non-sincere apology is more of an insult than the original post itself. According to him I am a "house nigger" so then I assume he is in the fields. I sure ain't stressing about it, because it sure is cool in here; we got air conditioning, lol. Lets just continue as we have done and not put more unnecessary attention to the fray. He is a martyr for sure.
#67 - Posted 13 June 2008, 3:30 PM
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Cibaeno,

I agree with you..LOL....that was a given..what dominican or haitian that doesn't want a monument built after them....lollololloll...

Ok, I'm laughing too hard..Negmawon..you still haven't apoligise..damn these field niggers are hard to break in..want some shade and a cup of lemonade..lol..Ok, that's it you are hilarious...

OK back to serious mood. Cibaeno..thanx for the laugh..great post..



You know what,

I will have some "Shade Of Peace" and a "Cup Of Lemonade Justice" for and between Haitians & Dominicans... Why thank you, why not eh? I will not do such a thing to apologize to those who are playing small just so they could prevent backlashes from others on this forum.

In fact, guys like Arc and Franco has shown way more balls and stood their stance at least we know how to better deal with them and what is really in their hearts as oppose to some flip flopper indirect ass kisser who has allowed the principles of former masters being his solace "House Nigger" is he as he is mentally enslaved. At least a "Field Niggers" actually go through the plight and still know themselves as it takes balls to be so... than to bask in the false comfort of the Master's house because he is too much of a coward.

Like I said, when I am being apologetic it is not given even the slightest recognition... Just pretend yet believe this not going to be one of those pointless moment (lol)... Thank you.

P.S: "The future is not a gift; it is an achievement. Every generation helps make its own future. This is the essential challenge of the present." Robert F. Kennedy.
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#68 - Posted 13 June 2008, 3:30 PM
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Cibaeno,

I agree with you..LOL....that was a given..what dominican or haitian that doesn't want a monument built after them....lollololloll...

Ok, I'm laughing too hard..Negmawon..you still haven't apoligise..damn these field niggers are hard to break in..want some shade and a cup of lemonade..lol..Ok, that's it you are hilarious...

OK back to serious mood. Cibaeno..thanx for the laugh..great post..



You know what,

I will have some "Shade Of Peace" and a "Cup Of Lemonade Justice" for and between Haitians & Dominicans... Why thank you, why not eh? I will not do such a thing to apologize to those who are playing small just so they could prevent backlashes from others on this forum.

In fact, guys like Arc and Franco has shown way more balls and stood their stance at least we know how to better deal with them and what is really in their hearts as oppose to some flip flopper indirect ass kisser who has allowed the principles of former masters being his solace "House Nigger" is he as he is mentally enslaved. At least a "Field Niggers" actually go through the plight and still know themselves as it takes balls to be so... than to bask in the false comfort of the Master's house because he is too much of a coward.

Like I said, when I am being apologetic it is not given even the slightest recognition... Just pretend yet believe this not going to be one of those pointless moment (lol)... Thank you.

P.S: "The future is not a gift; it is an achievement. Every generation helps make its own future. This is the essential challenge of the present." Robert F. Kennedy.
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#69 - Posted 13 June 2008, 3:32 PM
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Why in the world would I accept an apology from a guy as hateful and stubborn as him? Besides a non-sincere apology is more of an insult than the original post itself. According to him I am a "house nigger" so then I assume he is in the fields. I sure ain't stressing about it, because it sure is cool in here; we got air conditioning, lol. Lets just continue as we have done and not put more unnecessary attention to the fray. He is a martyr for sure.



There you go fellow,

Now, that was ballsy and a truthful thing to realize and say!!! You see, good for you! Have back your balls and break from those mental chains.

Lastly, sure...

P.S: "The future is not a gift; it is an achievement. Every generation helps make its own future. This is the essential challenge of the present." Robert F. Kennedy.

Edited on 6/13/2008 3:33 PM by NègMawon.
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#70 - Posted 13 June 2008, 3:34 PM
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"You are a Martyr..A monument of you will be build in your name on the border"

LOLOLOLOL...we came up with that one indenpendently of each other,,,great minds do think alike!..lolol...can't make this stuff up..



Why thank you (lol)
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