TuPapaupa previously said:

Time and time again I see the word "PATRIOT" be thrown here very freely and frequently.

Most of the time, it makes me wonder if the person saying it TRULY knows the meaning of such a strong word.

But what really amazes me is that those calling one another "PATRIOTA" are those who agree on an specific subject, ESPECIALLY those who agree that Haitians should be kicked out of the DR.

I've never seen so much hate and bigotry in my life than when reading Haitians threads here.

And then to see some of those people call themselves, or those who agree with them, "PATRIOTA", WOWWWW.....

I've never seen so many delusional, hateful and idiotic people call themselves something they will NEVER be.

I guess you can call yourself, or whomever, a "PATRIOTA" when fighting a "war" from the comfort of your air conditioned apartment, 1,600 miles away from your country.

In my opinion, it's sickening and pathetic for these people to put themselves in the same category of true Dominican PATRIOTAS, like Duarte, Sanchez, Mella, Caamano, all the University students who lost their lives fighting the corrupted Government and all those Dominicans who died fighting to better the country.

Why is it that the handful of Dominican intellects here (Lautaro, Hatero, etc.....) don't call themselves "PATRIOTS" when talking about the Haitian problem in the DR?......

Why is it that only hateful and racist, at at times uneducated, Dominicans are the ones ALWAYS calling each other 'PATRIOTAS"?.

I know MY definition of 'PATRIOT"........

Care to tell us yours?.

Montesquieu previously said:


* Main Entry: pa·tri·ot
* Pronunciation: \'pa-tre-?t, -?ät, chiefly British 'pa-tre-?t * Function: noun
* Etymology: Middle French patriote compatriot, from Late Latin patriota, from Greek patriotes, from patria lineage, from patr-, pater father
* Date: 1605
: one who loves his or her country and supports its authority and interests

ElTorodeCibao previously said:

I agree with your general assessment of that word and how it's thrown around. I agree who should be considered a patriot. I don't agree that wanting Haitians out, or at least the majority, is bigoted. But I don't think agreeing that Haitians are a problem is considered "patriotic".

Also someone could be very patriotic and be 10, 50, or 1,600 miles from nuestra patria. One thing I consider a strength of Dominican identity is how Dominican we stay 10, 50, or 1,600 miles away or after being 1st, 2nd, or 3rd generation nationalities in another country. But there are many weaknesses as well, unfortunately.

Montesquieu previously said:


That's all in vain of course. First, second, and third generation Dominicans abroad are not considered Dominicans by anyone in Dominican Republic.

Lautaro previously said:



Well, if anything, Hatero, ciby or yours truly could lay claim to the name if we wanted, as the very definition of patriot implies not only defending our country from outside threats (ANY outside threat, no matter if it comes with a hand on front (haitians) or a clenched fist (most frequently, the US and/or Europe)), but also defending it from our very own vermin, read, politicians, demagogues, rabble rousers, and the like. I think that the people you're trying to define in your discourse are the ones called nationalists, the ones that defend the country at all costs, even at the price of blinding themselves to their own country's faults.