Montesquieu previously said:


That's all in vain of course. First, second, and third generation Dominicans abroad are not considered Dominicans by anyone in Dominican Republic.

Lautaro previously said:



Do you know the biggest irony of all? that the president to do so would be Ulises Heureaux, who as you know, was of haitian descent. And not only that, he would be the one to institute the tradition of naming him father of the fatherland.

ElTorodeCibao previously said:

I've noticed the rhetoric you speak of. At first I thought it simply a reactionary prose but soon found the same drum being beaten well after the initial attacks from outsiders. Oh well, those people will forever be meek.

TuPapaupa previously said:

I wouldn't say say "by anyone", I would say by many, even by most.

And you know what's funnier, that many Dominicans living abroad THINK they should be considered the same.

Funny, isn't it?.

ElTorodeCibao previously said:



Did our country change gender throughout history?

I actually am being serious, when reading early Dominican history in English I've seen it referred to as "fatherland" but changed to "motherland" later on. Not sure if this is a widespread phenomenon or just the history books for children I read growing up.

FredCDobbs previously said:

Patriotism is not short, frenzied outbursts of emotion, but the tranquil and steady dedication of a lifetime.

HateroPardo previously said:

Many are nationalistic ... they can rationalize what is in their own best interests and the best interests of their class, and they then connect that to a national imagery and dress it up in flags. But a patriot's thought should be beyond particular interests of himself and his segment of society, and his actions should reflect the best interest of everyone as a nation.


AND more than that for me to consider someone a patriot they need to have put their life on the line for a truly national cause, or founded some important institutions, or written texts that actually moved the men and moments of their time.

USADR previously said:



Allow me to give an example of how I think some Dominicans can become 'extremist' ::


- Random Dominican has never given any significant thought to Haiti, he knows they're located next to us on the same island, they speak French/Kreyol/Patwa, etc.

-He may be dimly aware that we obtained our independence from them. There is no hate or strong feelings about this, it's similar to Americans learning in school that they got their independence from Britain.

-Gradually he is confronted with a steadily increasing stream of anti-Dominicanismo via the internet (random forums/blogs/websites/youtube), documentaries, articles, random foreigners, all painting DR in a negative light.

-He is exposed to more anti-DR hate from third parties. The hate is directed at the very fabric of Dominican culture, our history and people.

-A constant stream of hateful, despicable, denigrating anti-Dominicanismo from many different quarters. Things that would probably boil the blood of many, such as historical revisionism more appropriately titled historical fiction, outright racism against us..

-Said Dominican then goes on the 'attack'.


If said Dominican does not have at least a basic understanding of his country, his history, his culture and the complexity of the problem, he will become an 'extremist'. He will react by attacking.

TuPapaupa previously said:

I wouldn't say say "by anyone", I would say by many, even by most.

And you know what's funnier, that many Dominicans living abroad THINK they should be considered the same.

Funny, isn't it?.