| #21 - Posted 30 August 2009, 10:50 PM | |
Location: United States, NYC Join date: January 2008 Member #: 283 Posts: 500 | RE: "The real Dominican" video. Quote: cyberdragon previously said: Quote: kmnupe previously said: What exactly is multi-culti egalitarian propaganda? MTV, BET, PBS, History Channel now, and pretty much aaall of The media and educational institutions today, it is all controlled. Whatever is not "Kosher" to the people in power or not multi-culti egalitarian propaganda is canceled from TV and pretty much all of the media. In short, Liberalism. I don't know what country you're living in PAPA and how it relates to your original point? Edited on 8/30/2009 10:52 PM by kmnupe. |
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| #22 - Posted 31 August 2009, 7:18 AM | |
Location: United States, Boston, MA Join date: October 2008 Member #: 1466 Posts: 3127 | RE: "The real Dominican" video. Quote: HaytiQuisqueyaBohio previously said: This is ridiculous...it doesn't matter what skin color you are. Black, White, Purple..in the end we are all human beings part of the short cycle of life. Some people are obsessed over skin color.....this judging by skin color thing is getting really old and people need to catch up with the times. More people are mixing then ever, different cultures are combining to become one. DR shouldn't be obsessed with race so much.......no country should ever be obsessed with race. People need to move on from racism.......or at least elevate your-selves to prejudicism (not a real word) racism is the factor that drive countries backward and create division among the same group of people with the same culture. We are not really "obsessed" with racism comparing to many nationalities out there. |
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| #23 - Posted 31 August 2009, 7:21 AM | |
Location: United States, Boston, MA Join date: October 2008 Member #: 1466 Posts: 3127 | RE: "The real Dominican" video. I personally do not see any problem with posting this video as part of being a "real" Dominican in terms of phenotypes. I myself have family members from both parents who look like this, and I indeed consider myself a real Dominican. The race topic should have not been brought up in the first place because this is how most of us look like. |
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| #24 - Posted 31 August 2009, 7:52 AM | |
Location: United States Join date: May 2008 Member #: 711 Posts: 1919 | RE: "The real Dominican" video. My dentist for many years whom I have considered to be a white Domincan has shared this chilling experience in medical school with me He never new that in oder to be considered an authenctic white person you must no only have white features you must come have the right(white) religion, the right(white) surnames, from the right(white) country and the right(white) family connections.. It is nothing worse than to realize that you are not what you thought you have been all your life. Can turn you into a manic depressive. Many Light skin Dominicans have unfortunaley face the ugly reality of racism and are becoming obssessed with this dilemma :what should I do to be be accepted as white ? Many Italians , Polish. Puerto Ricans,and Latin Americans face the same dilemma. A Mario Cuomo ( the most capable politician), Rudold Julianni (known for his hate of black people)could never be president of The US. Not the right(white) name Ironically, America would rather elect a black man president instead of "Not white enough" person. Many romantic Dominicans have designed in their minds many tactics and strategies to "arreglar"the ethnic make up of the Dominican Republic What about slaughtering all dark skin Dominicans (the perejil experiment) What about blaming the dark skin Dominicans for all the social problems. What about calling all darkskin Dominicans , Haitians ? That could work - good versus evil, Dominicans versus Haitians Could we just isolate and quarantine all dark skin Dominicans and put then in a concentration camp. This is unrealistic , How would the world view this cynical move? Well let's use this forum and keep posting our fear, our disapointment and hope we wil feel better ANYONE KNOWS ABOUT THE CAUSES , SYMPTOMS,AND THE TREATMENT OF VERTIGO ? My best black friend is turning white right in front of me. Or is it God showing us the supidity of our obssession with skin color ? . Edited on 8/31/2009 7:55 AM by etiennc01. |
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| #25 - Posted 31 August 2009, 9:46 AM | |
Location: United States Join date: June 2009 Member #: 2977 Posts: 2597 | RE: "The real Dominican" video. Quote: Eriliza previously said: I personally do not see any problem with posting this video as part of being a "real" Dominican in terms of phenotypes. I myself have family members from both parents who look like this, and I indeed consider myself a real Dominican. The race topic should have not been brought up in the first place because this is how most of us look like. Exactly. I feel this highly reflects my experience as a Dominican, even the music picked. Someone felt slighted, I can not relate. |
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| #26 - Posted 31 August 2009, 9:59 AM | |
Location: Dominican Republic, Santo Domingo Join date: December 2007 Member #: 38 Posts: 5613 | RE: "The real Dominican" video. Quote: ElTorodeCibao previously said: Quote: Eriliza previously said: I personally do not see any problem with posting this video as part of being a "real" Dominican in terms of phenotypes. I myself have family members from both parents who look like this, and I indeed consider myself a real Dominican. The race topic should have not been brought up in the first place because this is how most of us look like. Exactly. I feel this highly reflects my experience as a Dominican, even the music picked. Someone felt slighted, I can not relate. So much the worse for them. The morons still don't get it, the Cibao is still the most populated area of the Republic, so it's a given that it will have the most representative sample of the dominican phenotype, duélale a quien le duela. And this is a capitaleño born person the one that is telling you this. Edited on 8/31/2009 10:10 AM by Lautaro. "A man who strives after goodness in all his acts is sure to come to ruin, since there are so many men who are not good." Niccolo Macchiavelli - The Prince |
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| #27 - Posted 31 August 2009, 10:51 AM | |
Location: United States Join date: February 2008 Member #: 340 Posts: 1299 | RE: "The real Dominican" video. The video is representative of the most common Dominican phenotypes, whoever argues otherwise is either driven by sometype of racialist/racist idealogy or simply trolling. I am not from the Cibao region and I've seen those phenotypes within my own family and all thru the southern regions of San Juan De La Maguana, Las Matas De Farfan, Bani, and surrounding campos like Las Charcas de Marionava, Cocinera, and Banica. If one wanted to add every single phenotype found in DR, a multigenerational tri-racial country, then the video would have to be much longer and include people who resemble Pakistani/Indians, Levantine & Gulf Arabs, West Africans, Spaniards, Amerindian influenced phenotypes with a touch of other, etc. Weird, but why isn't any other group so obsessed with us except for Afrocentrics? |
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| #28 - Posted 31 August 2009, 11:10 AM | |
Location: United States Join date: March 2008 Member #: 522 Posts: 5223 | RE: "The real Dominican" video. Quote: Lautaro previously said: Quote: ElTorodeCibao previously said: Quote: Eriliza previously said: I personally do not see any problem with posting this video as part of being a "real" Dominican in terms of phenotypes. I myself have family members from both parents who look like this, and I indeed consider myself a real Dominican. The race topic should have not been brought up in the first place because this is how most of us look like. Exactly. I feel this highly reflects my experience as a Dominican, even the music picked. Someone felt slighted, I can not relate. So much the worse for them. The morons still don't get it, the Cibao is still the most populated area of the Republic, so it's a given that it will have the most representative sample of the dominican phenotype, duélale a quien le duela. And this is a capitaleño born person the one that is telling you this. Because of regional isolation the Cibao is the most indigenous (autóctono) to the DR and representative of authentic Dominican culture. The rest of the other regions have had a lot of foreign influences that you can't truely call Dominican. Particularly, the Guloyas culture that came with the migrants from the nearby English speaking islands that settled in the San Pedro and La Romana area, the excaped slaves of Samana, the Jews of Sosua, the Japanese from Constanza and strong Haitian influence near all the border towns. And to a lesser extent we can also include, many of the other coastal cities such as Puerto Plata, Barahona and San Cristobal and Monte Cristi just to name a few as having a strong taste of imported culture. Edited on 8/31/2009 11:12 AM by guillermone. |
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| #29 - Posted 31 August 2009, 11:26 AM | |
Location: United States Join date: June 2009 Member #: 2977 Posts: 2597 | RE: "The real Dominican" video. Great last 3 posts, fellas. |
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| #30 - Posted 31 August 2009, 11:47 AM | |
Location: United States Join date: February 2008 Member #: 340 Posts: 1299 | RE: "The real Dominican" video. Quote: guillermone previously said: Quote: Lautaro previously said: Quote: ElTorodeCibao previously said: Quote: Eriliza previously said: I personally do not see any problem with posting this video as part of being a "real" Dominican in terms of phenotypes. I myself have family members from both parents who look like this, and I indeed consider myself a real Dominican. The race topic should have not been brought up in the first place because this is how most of us look like. Exactly. I feel this highly reflects my experience as a Dominican, even the music picked. Someone felt slighted, I can not relate. So much the worse for them. The morons still don't get it, the Cibao is still the most populated area of the Republic, so it's a given that it will have the most representative sample of the dominican phenotype, duélale a quien le duela. And this is a capitaleño born person the one that is telling you this. Because of regional isolation the Cibao is the most indigenous (autóctono) to the DR and representative of authentic Dominican culture. The rest of the other regions have had a lot of foreign influences that you can't truely call Dominican. Particularly, the Guloyas culture that came with the migrants from the nearby English speaking islands that settled in the San Pedro and La Romana area, the excaped slaves of Samana, the Jews of Sosua, the Japanese from Constanza and strong Haitian influence near all the border towns. And to a lesser extent we can also include, many of the other coastal cities such as Puerto Plata, Barahona and San Cristobal and Monte Cristi just to name a few as having a strong taste of imported culture. Allow me to expand on your post: -The Cibao is the most populous region. -The South is the second highest source of indigenous DNA, not to mention the strong Taino influenced campesino culture, in particular the area around San Juan/Azua (this has been posted on Dominican researchers Jorge Estevez's website and also in the Taino thread here on DT) -I cannot personally comment on every single border town, but due to the negative stigma attached to Haitians, intermarriage with them was frowned upon and/or discouraged. So it did surprise me upon meeting Dominicans from Banica, and looking at videos/pics of that border area, the start difference in phenotype. In my opinion, many of those in that border town look downright like East Indians. I asked about this, but I'll refrain from posting their actual comments to avoid starting an internet flame war. Remmember, their answers are from a campesinos point of view, so it's not sugar coated with PCness. -Agreed on the Guloya culture centered in San Pedro de Macoris. -Agreed on the African Americans descendants of Samana, but they were always a very tiny element of that region. Just to avoid anyone from misundertanding this post (purposely or otherwise), I'm talking about culture/phenotype not 'color'. We have our own Afroinfluenced heritage and ancestry that is seperate and apart from later arrivals like the Cocolos and African Americans. |
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