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#41 - Posted 31 August 2009, 5:28 PM
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RE: "The real Dominican" video.
Personally I like that Dominicans look all kinds of ways. I don't get why some people feel the need to put everything into a neat box. "Oh most look this way or that way." "They look this way over in this place." My family isn't from the Cibao region and the only person in my immediate family who looks "typically" Dominican is my mom. We look all kinds of ways, and yeah a lot of us are Black, a lot are somewhere in between and quite a few are White. Accept it, move on and let's talk about something else for once.
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#42 - Posted 31 August 2009, 6:01 PM
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RE: "The real Dominican" video.
To all the race obsessed/color struck Trolls:

1. The creator of the video is not Dominican.
2. He is a fellow LatinAmerican from Peru who's actually lived/visited DR.
3. He is interested in Anthro. type topics and is against all of the 'centrist' extremist.

Read what was written about the video:

I am always amused by people who want to portray the DR as being White, Black, or Native. They scour the net looking for pictures of as many dark skinned Dominicans, or light skinned Dominicans or indigenous looking Dominicans as they can find and then they create a video making claims about how they are showing the real Dominican Republic. They sound just like all those Afrocentrics and Eurocentrics arguing over claims that Egypt was either light skinned or dark skinned.
I could waste my time and scour the web for a huge variety of pictures. Instead I will just show a simple glimpse of one Dominican family from the Cibao region. As you can see, they look mixed with various family members favoring different ancestries.
The Dominican Republic is what it is, and when racialists stop obsessing over it, they might actually be able to chill and enjoy it.
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#43 - Posted 31 August 2009, 6:44 PM
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RE: "The real Dominican" video.
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He said "The real Dominican, it varies by region"

While you guys are saying "This is what a real Dominican looks like"



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#44 - Posted 31 August 2009, 6:50 PM
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RE: "The real Dominican" video.
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He said "The real Dominican, it varies by region"

While you guys are saying "This is what a real Dominican looks like"



-Don Quixote, busy tilting at windmills and tackling straw men.


You can say that again. He really puts a new meaning to the word obsession.
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#45 - Posted 31 August 2009, 7:08 PM
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RE: "The real Dominican" video.
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I personally do not see any problem with posting this video as part of being a "real" Dominican in terms of phenotypes. I myself have family members from both parents who look like this, and I indeed consider myself a real Dominican. The race topic should have not been brought up in the first place because this is how most of us look like.

The problem is, you're implying that anyone who doesn't look like the people in that video are less Dominican. Can you not see the problem with that? You sound pretty arrogant, what makes you more of a real Dominican than some of the Black Dominicans who fought for the DR's independence? What have you done for the DR, Ms. "Real Dominican"?


Y este que sabe de mi?

Listen trolly, as a Dominican, I have done more for the DR than what you have done for your own country!
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#46 - Posted 31 August 2009, 7:16 PM
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RE: "The real Dominican" video.
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Eriliza previously said:

I personally do not see any problem with posting this video as part of being a "real" Dominican in terms of phenotypes. I myself have family members from both parents who look like this, and I indeed consider myself a real Dominican. The race topic should have not been brought up in the first place because this is how most of us look like.

The problem is, you're implying that anyone who doesn't look like the people in that video are less Dominican. Can you not see the problem with that? You sound pretty arrogant, what makes you more of a real Dominican than some of the Black Dominicans who fought for the DR's independence? What have you done for the DR, Ms. "Real Dominican"?


Y este que sabe de mi?

Listen trolly, as a Dominican, I have done more for the DR than what you have done for your own country!


My dearest Eriliza, I suggest you to pay no heed to this resentful child. If you haven't been following the forum on the last few weeks, then you'll have to know that the little kiddo here will always be full of hate against the dominican nation and country, cuz' one of our compatriotas married his favorite aunt (for whom he has an Oedipus crush), and as such, he's mightily annoyed at being powerless to change the fact. Let him vent his anger until he can't stand it no more and make us the favor of blowing his brains out, or moving to other spaces more according to his hateful inclinations.
Edited on 8/31/2009 7:22 PM by Lautaro.
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#47 - Posted 31 August 2009, 7:47 PM
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RE: "The real Dominican" video.
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Eriliza previously said:

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GatitoRubio previously said:

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Eriliza previously said:

I personally do not see any problem with posting this video as part of being a "real" Dominican in terms of phenotypes. I myself have family members from both parents who look like this, and I indeed consider myself a real Dominican. The race topic should have not been brought up in the first place because this is how most of us look like.

The problem is, you're implying that anyone who doesn't look like the people in that video are less Dominican. Can you not see the problem with that? You sound pretty arrogant, what makes you more of a real Dominican than some of the Black Dominicans who fought for the DR's independence? What have you done for the DR, Ms. "Real Dominican"?


Y este que sabe de mi?

Listen trolly, as a Dominican, I have done more for the DR than what you have done for your own country!

Look, we are talking about Dominicans, don't change the subject.

You are no better than the MANY, that's right MANY Sammy Sosas in your country. If you think the average Dominican looks like Juan Luis Guerra, and anyone who doesn't look like him is a "Fake Dominican", please get out of your middle class town in Santiago, you can learn a little more about your country.

Most people who are of the phenotype as those people in the video are MIDDLE CLASS, and if most Dominicans were middle class, the DR wouldn't be considered a 3rd world country, wouldn't it? You live in an isolated area of the country and refuse to go visit the many areas full of "Fake Dominicans" and see that these "Fake Dominicans" probably make up 40% or even 50% of your damn country and aren't irrelevant at all.

Si no te gusta vete pa Puerto Rico o mejor, Venezuela.

oh please like venezuela is much better
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#48 - Posted 31 August 2009, 7:50 PM
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RE: "The real Dominican" video.
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Can you or anybody manually type the address for the "The Real Dominican Video."
My system does not show or pick-up the link. Thanks



Just saw the video and I really liked it. This is the DR that I know and identify. These are the same people that I grew up with as a child. I had those very same relatives that hugged and loved me. They were from every phenotype precisely represented in that video. And I am sorry to say if I offend other Dominicans from other regions. But as a Cibaeño I understand what you mean when you say "real Dominicans."

Previously to me we were all Dominicans and it did not matter what region we were from, until one day as a youth, I made a trip to another part of the country and for the first time I realized the difference. Met a person that noticed that I was from the Cibao and he began to mock the Cibaeños accent and kind of began to redicule us as if we were a bunch of backward hillbillies. This was the first time I began to be self-conscious about our particular brand of Dominican culture and realized that yes we were different from the rest of the country. But thanks God to that experience, I began to learn more about my people and region and the more I learned the bigger my Cibaeño pride grew and it made me know and understand, how great we really are, far "superior" then any other place in the Dominican Republic. I am sorry to use the word superior, because no human is better then anybody else, but rather I use the word "superior" in the sense that it was nothing at all what that person attempted to make me feel, think and believe to be true. Yes the native Cibaeño tends to be more european looking then in any other place in the DR and there you wll find the highest concetration of white looking Dominicans, but that is simply the way it is. Traditionally and for a long time we were a close knit agricultural society and outsiders were not really welcomed and that kind of help maintained a more homogenous society. However, all that has changed now and we are now seeing a population shift from rural to a more urban culture and hence we will probably end up looking more like most other regions in the DR.
Edited on 8/31/2009 7:52 PM by guillermone.
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#49 - Posted 31 August 2009, 8:09 PM
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RE: "The real Dominican" video.
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GatitoRubio previously said:

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guillermone previously said:

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guillermone previously said:

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cyberdragon previously said:




Can you or anybody manually type the address for the "The Real Dominican Video."
My system does not show or pick-up the link. Thanks



Just saw the video and I really liked it. This is the DR that I know and identify. These are the same people that I grew up with as a child. I had those very same relatives that hugged and loved me. They were from every phenotype precisely represented in that video. And I am sorry to say if I offend other Dominicans from other regions. But as a Cibaeño I understand what you mean when you say "real Dominicans."

Previously to me we were all Dominicans and it did not matter what region we were from, until one day as a youth, I made a trip to another part of the country and for the first time I realized the difference. Met a person that noticed that I was from the Cibao and he began to mock the Cibaeños accent and kind of began to redicule us as if we were a bunch of backward hillbillies. This was the first time I began to be self-conscious about our particular brand of Dominican culture and realized that yes we were different from the rest of the country. But thanks God to that experience, I began to learn more about my people and region and the more I learned the bigger my Cibaeño pride grew and it made me know and understand, how great we really are, far "superior" then any other place in the Dominican Republic. I am sorry to use the word superior, because no human is better then anybody else, but rather I use the word "superior" in the sense that it was nothing at all what that person attempted to make me feel, think and believe to be true. Yes the native Cibaeño tends to be more european looking then in any other place in the DR and there you wll find the highest concetration of white looking Dominicans, but that is simply the way it is. Traditionally and for a long time we were a close knit agricultural society and outsiders were not really welcomed and that kind of help maintained a more homogenous society. However, all that has changed now and we are now seeing a population shift from rural to a more urban culture and hence we will probably end up looking more like most other regions in the DR.


But you guys are saying "real Dominicans look like that", not "real cibaenos look like that", and even if you said "Real Cibaenos" instead, you are still dead wrong. The correct term is "AVERAGE". Average implies that most Dominicans look like that, "Real" implies that you must look like that to be a real Dominican.


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divinedominicana previously said:

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GatitoRubio previously said:

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Eriliza previously said:

Quote:
GatitoRubio previously said:

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Eriliza previously said:

I personally do not see any problem with posting this video as part of being a "real" Dominican in terms of phenotypes. I myself have family members from both parents who look like this, and I indeed consider myself a real Dominican. The race topic should have not been brought up in the first place because this is how most of us look like.

The problem is, you're implying that anyone who doesn't look like the people in that video are less Dominican. Can you not see the problem with that? You sound pretty arrogant, what makes you more of a real Dominican than some of the Black Dominicans who fought for the DR's independence? What have you done for the DR, Ms. "Real Dominican"?


Y este que sabe de mi?

Listen trolly, as a Dominican, I have done more for the DR than what you have done for your own country!

Look, we are talking about Dominicans, don't change the subject.

You are no better than the MANY, that's right MANY Sammy Sosas in your country. If you think the average Dominican looks like Juan Luis Guerra, and anyone who doesn't look like him is a "Fake Dominican", please get out of your middle class town in Santiago, you can learn a little more about your country.

Most people who are of the phenotype as those people in the video are MIDDLE CLASS, and if most Dominicans were middle class, the DR wouldn't be considered a 3rd world country, wouldn't it? You live in an isolated area of the country and refuse to go visit the many areas full of "Fake Dominicans" and see that these "Fake Dominicans" probably make up 40% or even 50% of your damn country and aren't irrelevant at all.

Si no te gusta vete pa Puerto Rico o mejor, Venezuela.

oh please like venezuela is much better

We aren't going around telling darker Venezuelans that they aren't Real Venezuelans.


when has a light dominican told a dark dominican that they aren't dominican ?
Edited on 8/31/2009 8:12 PM by divinedominicana.
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#50 - Posted 31 August 2009, 8:32 PM
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RE: "The real Dominican" video.
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GatitoRubio previously said:

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divinedominicana previously said:

Quote:
GatitoRubio previously said:

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guillermone previously said:

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guillermone previously said:

Quote:
cyberdragon previously said:




Can you or anybody manually type the address for the "The Real Dominican Video."
My system does not show or pick-up the link. Thanks



Just saw the video and I really liked it. This is the DR that I know and identify. These are the same people that I grew up with as a child. I had those very same relatives that hugged and loved me. They were from every phenotype precisely represented in that video. And I am sorry to say if I offend other Dominicans from other regions. But as a Cibaeño I understand what you mean when you say "real Dominicans."

Previously to me we were all Dominicans and it did not matter what region we were from, until one day as a youth, I made a trip to another part of the country and for the first time I realized the difference. Met a person that noticed that I was from the Cibao and he began to mock the Cibaeños accent and kind of began to redicule us as if we were a bunch of backward hillbillies. This was the first time I began to be self-conscious about our particular brand of Dominican culture and realized that yes we were different from the rest of the country. But thanks God to that experience, I began to learn more about my people and region and the more I learned the bigger my Cibaeño pride grew and it made me know and understand, how great we really are, far "superior" then any other place in the Dominican Republic. I am sorry to use the word superior, because no human is better then anybody else, but rather I use the word "superior" in the sense that it was nothing at all what that person attempted to make me feel, think and believe to be true. Yes the native Cibaeño tends to be more european looking then in any other place in the DR and there you wll find the highest concetration of white looking Dominicans, but that is simply the way it is. Traditionally and for a long time we were a close knit agricultural society and outsiders were not really welcomed and that kind of help maintained a more homogenous society. However, all that has changed now and we are now seeing a population shift from rural to a more urban culture and hence we will probably end up looking more like most other regions in the DR.


But you guys are saying "real Dominicans look like that", not "real cibaenos look like that", and even if you said "Real Cibaenos" instead, you are still dead wrong. The correct term is "AVERAGE". Average implies that most Dominicans look like that, "Real" implies that you must look like that to be a real Dominican.


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divinedominicana previously said:

Quote:
GatitoRubio previously said:

Quote:
Eriliza previously said:

Quote:
GatitoRubio previously said:

Quote:
Eriliza previously said:

I personally do not see any problem with posting this video as part of being a "real" Dominican in terms of phenotypes. I myself have family members from both parents who look like this, and I indeed consider myself a real Dominican. The race topic should have not been brought up in the first place because this is how most of us look like.

The problem is, you're implying that anyone who doesn't look like the people in that video are less Dominican. Can you not see the problem with that? You sound pretty arrogant, what makes you more of a real Dominican than some of the Black Dominicans who fought for the DR's independence? What have you done for the DR, Ms. "Real Dominican"?


Y este que sabe de mi?

Listen trolly, as a Dominican, I have done more for the DR than what you have done for your own country!

Look, we are talking about Dominicans, don't change the subject.

You are no better than the MANY, that's right MANY Sammy Sosas in your country. If you think the average Dominican looks like Juan Luis Guerra, and anyone who doesn't look like him is a "Fake Dominican", please get out of your middle class town in Santiago, you can learn a little more about your country.

Most people who are of the phenotype as those people in the video are MIDDLE CLASS, and if most Dominicans were middle class, the DR wouldn't be considered a 3rd world country, wouldn't it? You live in an isolated area of the country and refuse to go visit the many areas full of "Fake Dominicans" and see that these "Fake Dominicans" probably make up 40% or even 50% of your damn country and aren't irrelevant at all.

Si no te gusta vete pa Puerto Rico o mejor, Venezuela.

oh please like venezuela is much better

We aren't going around telling darker Venezuelans that they aren't Real Venezuelans.


when has a light dominican told a dark dominican that they aren't dominican ?

In this thread

The people who are saying "those dominicans, except for the dark one are what real dominicans look like", are basically saying "Darker skinned and nappy haired dominicans aren't Real Dominicans".

Catch my drift? Stop using the word "Real Dominican", it's insulting, RACIST and makes you look like Light-Skinned-Mulatto supremacists (if such a thing even exists).



the person only wrote that everyone on this video looks like they are part of his family except the dark one. He didn't say that the dark one did not look dominican. and may i ask where are you from ?
Edited on 8/31/2009 8:34 PM by divinedominicana.
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